MP3 players: iRiver clix 2nd gen

Don't pick clix2 just for 8gb

I can't comment too much on the new Clix, but I have a D2 and an old Clix. First of all, if 8gb vs. 4gb is a big selling point for you, remember that D2 is expandable via SD, so you can easily get 8+ now that it supports high capacity SD cards.

Getting movies on either Clix2 or D2 is a matter of converting it first, and there are free programs for either player that will do this easily and well.

Not sure about WMP10/11 because I never use it, but I would guess that both players support it.

My opinion of the Clix2 in general is mostly based on the Clix 1, which is a great player. I definitely prefer the D2 over clix1, and my understanding is that the clix2's improvement over the first is just better video playback and a sleeker design; so I'd still pick the D2. D2 has twice the battery life, although clix2 has 25hrs which is plenty, not sure how important that is to you. CNET really praises the Clix interface, which is certainly a good one, but man I love the D2 interface with touch screen. Also, D2 has a larger screen, 2.2 vs 2.5 inch. Side by side, it's noticeable, but they are both nice screens.

Anyways, you can't really go wrong with either player. Ignore all the one-sided iRiver or Cowon fans, and just appreciate the fact that both companies make players that are good enough to actually build a die-hard fanbase.