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Community weekly poll: When will you start using Windows Vista?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 4/26/07 1:03 PM
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Post 31 of 209

Ha! Have you tried a Mac? Probably No.

by rschama - 4/28/07 1:19 AM In reply to: macs suck! by jgon9

Ignorance is bliss? If you will never touch a Mac you will never know any different will you?
If you want games, get a console. If you want a solid, stable, functional, productive computer, get a Mac.
I use both platforms and actually know the differences.

Yes, you can use a two button (or more) mouse with a Mac. I use a Logitech Cordless Trackman Wheel (which beats any ordinary mouse by a mile when you get used to the track ball).

And yes, I download free useful programs all the time. Maybe not the crap freebie stuff in cereal boxes, but who wants that adware infested garbage anyhow?

Do you like downloading viruses and trojans too? I have never bought an anti-virus program, never. How much have you spent upgrading your antivirus programs over the years? Add it up buddy!

Oh, and yes, I do have windows XP on my Mac run in Parallels to run the rare program I can't get for Mac. Nothing I could really live without. Just some old PC games I had grown fond of and a comic book database program called Comicbase. That's it!

PDA phone? Get a TREO with Palm or the upcoming Linux based version which is in the works. My professional colleagues who have windows mobile TREOs complain of regular crashes. Gee.. sounds like the windows we all know and love for PC's.

Post 32 of 209

I have used a mac, nice colors but less functionality

by jgon9 - 4/28/07 3:30 AM In reply to: Ha! Have you tried a Mac? Probably No. by rschama

Games: yeah ok get a console, last time I checked the biggest console out was the Microsoft Xbox 360, which syncs with your Windows computer and allows you to access your media library on your TV. Of course, I'm more of a PC gamer. That's where you get the best graphics, with the best graphics cards. Something a mac can only dream of displaying.

Mouse: This was just something that got to me when I first had to use a mac at a friends house years ago. Also the one mouse button on their laptops. However, built in mice on laptops on not the best on either platform.

Programs: I have a PSP, I have an Archos 404, I have a HTC P4000 Windows Mobile 5 phone. I would not be able to convert videos for my PSP or my Archos. I would not be able to sync my Outlook data and other files on my phone.

Virus and Spyware: I've used Windows XP for many years and Windows 98 and Windows 95. I have never had any issues viruses or spyware. This is because I run an antivirus and anti-spyware program, I have a router and a firewall. You can say that macs don't have viruses, but that just isn't the case. If you can run programs on it and it connects to the Internet you can get viruses. I've seen iPods with a virus for crying out loud. The reason you don't see any many viruses on macs is because far less people use them.

Restarts and crashes: I don't know what motive users are doing, but my Windows computer hasn't crashed in weeks. The last time it did was because of a buggy game that required patching. Not Windows fault the developer put out an unfinished game. By the way, I know people that use macs. They also crash.

In the end it's whatever you like. You want a Mac I say all the power to you. I like their designs and some of their concepts. It's just not for me. I'd have to replace too much hardware and software. And give up somethings I cannot do.

Post 33 of 209

Macs Suck - Really?

by Mudrick - 4/28/07 2:35 AM In reply to: macs suck! by jgon9

When i was given a mac laptop by a friend of mine i was i little usure about what it can and cann't do but now i have sold all my house PC's (my wife's and kids!) and moved them all over to Mac, did you know the Mac mouse is pressure sensative? no? well if you press in the middle you get a left click but if you press over to the right you get the right click, cool eh? Software, well personally i have found that the Mac arctecture is FAR BETTER the pc, to install, Windows/preparing to install/intalling/please restart your computer, Mac Intall/go. so if you want long waits, blue screens of death, always restarting etc go PC WIndows, if you want to just get on with things and enjoy you computer with little to NO hasstle then go Mac.
Windows (including Vista!) is the most annoying piece of crud on the market, ask Dell, they are even reverting to selling there pc's with XP on. YEY WINDOWS - not!

Post 34 of 209

Thats a rant from a happy Mac User

by Me, Myself and You - 5/8/07 1:50 PM In reply to: Macs Suck - Really? by Mudrick

But there are happy Windows users too, right? Like me? Or do we not exist anymore..?

I think the reason (on average) Windows has more BSODs and whatnot is to do with the drivers, and the Kernel, or something like that. I dont really know much about that area of computing so I shall not pretend to.

Post 35 of 209

Macs suck

by marysduby - 4/28/07 3:33 AM In reply to: macs suck! by jgon9

I wish i did know more about Mac --maybe service pack 2 to be safe its common what Microsoft has done to all these people

Post 36 of 209

just switched to Mac and so not very concerned with Vista

by psngray - 4/28/07 7:02 AM In reply to: Macs suck by marysduby

The change over wasn't easy, mostly because Office for Mac doesn't have converters from Outlook to Entourage (the mac version of Outlook)you need to use an exchange server. I may just go all the way and use apple mail/address book/calendar.
The Vista problems I see on theis site and elsewhere should have been expected, it always takes a new operating system a while to get off the ground. I may change over some of my PCs eventually, just because I'm curious. For now though I'm really happy with my powerbook, the screen, graphics, photo software, weight, battery life all make me happy. Mac os is easy too, once you get over not having to configure everything yourself. It took me a month or so to get over relinquishing complete control.

Post 37 of 209

Vista BTDT now back with XP

by Picabo4 - 4/27/07 6:37 PM In reply to: Vista Sucks!!!! by afro2358

I so agree Vista sucks. It's not compatible with many of my graphic programs, filters and many other programs...Microsoft attitude is we devoloped it ..let others adapt to our way, not let us work and see how we can devolope new software keeping formats to accomadate old program software..

They are trying to shove Vista down our throats..I used it for a month then reformated back to XP, and belive me that is almost impossible.

I will never go back to it as long as Microsoft as long as there are still updates for XP.

Vista reminds me of WindowsMe and we know how long that lasted

Post 38 of 209

Not happy with Vista

by mcdonpe3 - 4/27/07 7:15 PM In reply to: Vista Sucks!!!! by afro2358

I have had a similar experience. Had XP working well and then made the mistake of moving to Vista. Result: driver incompatibility, unstable system, slow as all hell, packages that don’t work properly. All I can say is: when is Microsoft going to put some quality into their products and stop ripping their customers off.

Post 39 of 209

Vista is another Bill(greedy) Gates scam

by simair1 - 4/27/07 8:03 PM In reply to: Vista Sucks!!!! by afro2358

I guess they need more money out there in "screw all the people land"...
Lets build a new OS,and cause a ripple....they will come, and give us thier money...Oh sure, they will complian,but look how much money will be generated...new programs to be VISTA compatible...new books on where they put all the &^%$# things we got used to in XP....it was running too good, all the programs ran great(well as good as can be expected from MS)...no,no,no ...there will be none of that....
I think, look no further for MR 666......
Stop buying MS products and see how fast they will care for people,not going to happen though....OH well....If we can stand around and let the politicians play with our lives...fuel,medical...oh so much more... Why not MR Gates.,and the greeds.....oh yeah ,don't forget to drink the miracle water.....
Apple any one???

Post 40 of 209

Apple, Yes

by rschama - 4/28/07 1:22 AM In reply to: Vista is another Bill(greedy) Gates scam by simair1

An Apple a day will keep the doctors away. Dr. Norton, Dr McAfee, Dr PCcillin, etc...

An IT buddy advised the guts of Vista is not much different than XP and it is all GUI fluff and buff to get the Ooh Aah crowd. Don't give in to the dark side!

Post 41 of 209

Will I use Vista???? Probabkly NEVER...Or I'll wait till Mic

by lvincent45 - 4/28/07 2:38 AM In reply to: Apple, Yes by rschama

I have been involved with the Microsoft OS for a number of years starting with Windows 95. This company is one of the few companies that is allowed to sell a DEFECTIVE product. I can't remember ever loading a Windows OS without having a hassle with it. The SAD part is that it is very difficult, for me at least, to contact Microsoft to complain or get technical support.

I am not a stout supporter of Microsoft but I am also leary of trying another OS because of the bad reviews I read from other users of these products...apparentyl every OS manufacturer has problems.

Post 42 of 209

Vista Sucks!!!

by afro2358 - 4/29/07 8:21 AM In reply to: Vista Sucks!!!! by afro2358

I just wish If Bill Gates was an Honest and Decent person, he would tell the millions of people; "IF YOU BROUGHT WINDOWS VISTA, AND TRIED IT, AND YOU ARE NOT TRULY SATIFIED WITH THE PRODUCT, I WILL GIVE YOU A REFUND FOR THE PRODUCT". Only then will i RESPECT Bill Gates and Microsoft. Mr Gates, you need to put your Customers ahead of your SHAREHOLDS, because without your customers, in the future, you'll have nothing.

Sly Edwards

Post 43 of 209

vista sucks lol

by john riddle - 4/29/07 12:32 PM In reply to: Vista Sucks!!!! by afro2358

i was going to buy the up grade to. but after 3 bad ones that i had to take back to the vender.i choose to buy a new puter hp with vista already loaded.at first i didnt like it eather.until i dont a little reading about.now all my programs work for me.try reading lol

Post 44 of 209

What happen to the Security?

by afro2358 - 5/8/07 1:23 PM In reply to: Vista Sucks!!!! by afro2358

It's an all-critical Patch Tuesday.

Microsoft has just released seven advisories — all rated critical — with patches for at least 18 19 vulnerabilities affecting the Windows operating system, the widely deployed Office productivity suite and the dominant Internet Explorer browser.

Six of the 19 vulnerabilities affect Windows Vista.

The batch of updates includes a promised fix for the Windows DNS RPC vulnerability that was being used in zero-day attacks last month.

There are patches for 7 different vulnerabilities that could lead to code execution attacks against Word, Excel and Office.

Users of Microsoft Exchange are also urged to pay attention to one of the critical bulletins, which cover 4 different flaws.

A cumulative IE update addresses six potentially dangerous bugs. There are the six that apply to IE 7 on Windows Vista.

This information is from ZDNet.com reach came today (5/8/07) in my email. There was not suppose to be any problems or security issues with Windows Vista.

Post 45 of 209

love and hate

by jabberwolf - 4/27/07 4:12 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I love Vista and it runs super smooth with the new apps and devices that do work with it and there are many but they ARE NEWER.

One one side, people are too lazy to lookup the updated drivers.
On the other side, some companies have been too lazy to push out updated vista drivers for their older products. It really depends on the quality of that 3rd party vendor.

I do wish MS and computer vendors would allow or offer a dual boot, one with Vista and one with XP. This is what I've always done from 95 to 98, from 98-2000, from 2000 to XP, etc... No OS has been perfectly backwards compatible, especially with older peripherals. That is not the OS's fault, that lies with the vendor of the peripherals that is too lazy to update their older drivers.

So best of both worlds, old and new, do a dual boot!

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