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Community weekly poll: When will you start using Windows Vista?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 4/26/07 1:03 PM
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Post 106 of 209

Vista is not quite ready.

by ira176 - 4/27/07 8:02 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I ordered all my parts for a dream computer build in February 2007. Including an MSI K9A Platinum Mainboard, two ATI X1950 Pro video cards for crossfire, 2 GB memory, 400 GB HDD, and a DVD R/W Drive. I also ordered Windows XP Media Center edition, with a free Vista Home Premium 32 Bit upgrade. I put the system together, and installed Windows XP, and all worked flawlessly. A few weeks later, my Vista OS arrived, and I popped it in to install it, and it would not let me do a fresh install. Rather, Vista would only install over top of Windows XP. I also found out that certain of my previous software would not work, including partial functionality of my Nero DVD buring software, and my Trendmicro Internet Security 2007. I ended up not installing Nero, and I needed to get new Vista compatible Trendmicro Internet Security 2007 (at no cost to me using my old serial number). I also ended up having issues with the ATI drivers, causing BSOD, and multiple start ups with Catalyst version 7.3. Thank God Catalyst 7.4 just came out, as the issue seems to be fixed now. I'm also big into gamming, and when I installed Battlefield 2142, I had major problems getting it to work online. Apparently, the punkbuster software needed to be updated and the game needed administrative rights to play. After a half a bottle of asprin, I got the game working properly online. I must admit that it hasn't been the smoothest OS transition I've ever had. And certainly not all of you software is going to work on Vista, even though it was working on Windows XP. On the good side, the interface is pretty easy to navigate, similar to XP,and it's supposed to be more secure than other Windows OS's from the past (although I really can't tell). Setting up my Internet was pretty easy and the system is running more smoothly after some tweaking. I just wish that Microsoft had done a better job of making their new Vista OS more compatible with other software.

Post 107 of 209

Only when absolutely necessary

by Mr.BillShow - 4/27/07 8:21 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Enough is enough for Microsoft. Now with Vista it has been made to appear as the necessary operating system of the future. Yet, all that many of us rely upon will no longer operate. So, go figure, the ink is not dry on the contracts will those program developers to adapt them for Vista; AT AN UPGRADE COST FOR SURE and with Microsoft getting their 30% kick-back. XP has been extremely reliable, in Texas we say, "If it ain't broke don't fix it" and I won't!

Post 108 of 209

Vista Grows On You

by ghosty191 - 4/27/07 8:24 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I am using Vista in a brand new Gateway with Dual Core and lots of whistles and bells, and I'm catching on slowly, but I still keep my older HP with XP running for everything, so far. It's been since the release of Vista I have had a few problems with it, but I found out that if I just waited, as it either had an update to fix a software incompatibility, or I just wasn't holding my mouth right. The answers are there, and I have had fun finding them. XP was scary right off the bat too. I remember even the scare of leaving DOS for Windows. Progress happens!

Post 109 of 209

Slightly impressive, but give me XP back

by thebogusman - 4/27/07 8:26 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Decided to try Vista Ultimate. Very impressive in terms of visuals and accessability, but I'll take XP back any day. Here's why:

1) Security is too hyped. Already have the malware "Spyware Cleaner"/tcpipmon.exe installed, with no reason for getting on there, despite user access controls. On top of that, Security Suite has automatically been turned off.

2) UAC is not only annoying, but worthless

3) While most programs work decently, a few still don't work or crash real fast.

4) Ultimate features are mor eyecandy than functional.

M$ should have spent a hell of a lot more time developing Vista than it did, even if it meant 1-2 more years. Stronly looking at Linux Ubuntu at this point, with Windows as backup. I just need something that works without any headaches.

Post 110 of 209

When will you start using Windows Vista?

by dlsears - 4/27/07 8:58 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Why else? Eye candy and increased DRM just ain't where it's at.

Post 111 of 209

What part of NEVER do you not UNDERSTAND?

by cwhard - 4/27/07 9:13 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Why should I switch? I can answer this forum question (just fine)can't I? Tis the "Kings New Clothes" all over again. When will people learn? Think, 'New Coke' and it will come to you... ;-) -Tex

Post 112 of 209

Next year. Maybe.

by Vahidm - 4/27/07 9:15 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Next year, the hardware might be able to handle it without too much pain (at an affordable price and valuable performance).

Next year the drivers may be up to the par.

Next year the freeware i use on my current XP system might be engaging Vista.

Next year there may be some actual games that benefir from Vista, instead of working in spite of Vista.

This year is not the right year to invest in Vista.

My sister in law went ahead and bought one of those cheap Toshiba laptops with Vista. She dumped it, because it was slower to work with than her previous laptop. Does that make sense? Yes, the price was just right (500$ for a laptop!). But the performance is ridiculous (in a very bad way).
Guess who's in charge of downgrading it to XP?

Post 113 of 209

Who needs Vista? It's a blatant ripoff of Mac (again).

by rschama - 4/27/07 9:21 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I switched to Mac in the early stages of OSX and there is no turning back. Sure I have the rare program that is windows only, but I run that in Parallels via Windows XP on my Intel MacBook Pro.

My IT guy for my day job said under the hood of Vista there are no significant changes. It has a hyped up GUI interface that is 5 years behind Mac and a blatant ripoff of Aqua (Aero? C'mon! Only a blind person couldn't see that as a direct steal. Hey, Microsoft be more creative. How about eartho? or fireo?)

p.s. I used to build my own PC's for gaming. I have since switched mainly to consoles and use my Mac for everything else (with no headaches mind you). I have not bought an anti-virus program since I switched! I do, of course, still practice safe computing.

Regards,

Post 114 of 209

Using Vista

by hfhlt004 - 4/27/07 9:23 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I am a senior citizen, and it is amusing to me how many people seem to have "trouble" using anything new. I have my Vista upgrade disc standing by, and the only reason I have not used it yet is the confusion at Dell as to the correct drivers for their customized software. I have been using IE7 for months however. If Windows is to become more secure, we must get accustomed to some disruptions. Frankly some software manufacturers don't want to rewrite their code, and some hardware manufacturers don't want to supply new drivers. Both have been given plenty of time to do so.

Post 115 of 209

Vista, XP?, never.

by Mendieta - 4/27/07 9:26 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I've been using Lixux since 1996, first Suse Linux, next Red Hat, now Debian, just great distros, not joking, Unix is the only real existing operating system.

Post 116 of 209

Windows Vista and HP a1730n

by Lochinblu - 4/27/07 10:07 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I can't believe that hp released this desktop with this OS. IT STINKS!!!! I have had to go back to factory settings I don't know
how many times. There aren't any xp programs I can get to work with
this OS....such as Printmaster, Print Shop which I use for my small
business all of the time. If I do get them installed this system
kicks out the DVD-RW. So then I have to go back to restore!! :(
I'm not happy!!

Post 117 of 209

Ye Olde 3GHz P4 tower...

by otokichi - 4/27/07 10:25 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

ain't up to running Vista, so I'm a Windows XP Home user until I can clean off the HDD and send it off to the landfill for disposal. There may be someone who would like to party like it's 1998 on this old P4, but otherwise, my next desktop will be some kind of Intel Mac. It's been a long and interesting run with Windows, but if Mr. Bill isn't around any more, why should I stay?

Post 118 of 209

Vista is the new WinME

by Chuckle8 - 4/27/07 11:07 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Three things stopped me from ever considering moving to Vista:

1...The local outlet stores were coerced into removing all their XP machines from the shelves the week that Vista was released. This includes CostCo, Best Buy and Circuit City. If anyone tells you differently, they are lying.

2...Vista is a memory hog. A brand new laptop with Vista is already struggling with a top-heavy program, out of the box.

3...Worst of all, Vista image programs eat EXIF info from image files. And it sometimes eats the images, too. As a professional photographer, this is one glitch that I cannot tolerate. MSN admits this fault on their website, and in the disclaimer, says that it's the fault of the OTHER PROGRAMS! Check it out, ...their "fix" is to have outside programs work around the MSN problem. If that isn't the height of arrogance, I don't know what is.

Post 119 of 209

Just Bought a Dell Notebook With Vista and . . . .

by doberlin - 4/27/07 11:45 PM In reply to: When will you start using Windows Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

as soon as I can get around to it I am reformatting the disk, reinstalling XP (luckily I have a valid authenicated operating system disk - not one of the toy oem rebuild disks) and will use it until it's mandatory to change. The fact that big business is not going to abandon XP for at least a few years will force big MS to keep on supporting it (or at least say so), and with Dell and others saying they will still supply the XP platorm when requested. I would assume that if MS does not change their license charges to the OEM's, that the OEm's are not hurt in that regard since they can't be paying more for Vista than they did for XP. So they will sell Vista to the general public and small businesses to meet their MS quotas, and everyone will be generally satisfied including those who don't and those who do know any better. The only losers are the don't knows but since they don't know . . . what's new? There simply isn't enough new in Vista except bugs and hardware/software uncombatibilities and that hardly justifies a change!

Post 120 of 209

Waiting for SP1

by TE7 - 4/28/07 12:34 AM In reply to: Just Bought a Dell Notebook With Vista and . . . . by doberlin

I intend to install Vista Home Premium in a dual boot with WinXP Pro when SP1 comes out. I realize that I'll probably lose the chance to do a clean install with an upgrade disc by then, but the extra time will let me do some hardware upgrades first since I want to see if Vista will run on my Dell Dimension 8400 (Pentium 4, 3 GHZ, 1 GB mem, 128 MB ATI). I want to see how many software/hardware compatability problems I might encounter. It's a gamble, as I've read and seen from this poll's results and forum posts. But I hope SP1 will have some improvements since Vista at this point is getting an overall bad review by those with a Vista capable PC but that anticipate peripheral/software/performance problems with their current PC and installed software and peripherals. We've all read the horror stories. Wish me luck!

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