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by saltyjeff - 4/14/07 12:38 PM
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1080P vs 720P

by saltyjeff - 4/14/07 12:38 PM

Looking for a new tv. Should I be tempted by all the discounted 720P TV's or do I opt for the top technology and get 1080P. Withoug Blu-Ray or PS3, will I be able to notice a difference?

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I would go for the 1080P.

by ahtoi - 4/14/07 1:30 PM In reply to: 1080P vs 720P by saltyjeff

After all, that will be the future.

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Depends on how big your TV is

by bkchurch - 4/14/07 2:12 PM In reply to: 1080P vs 720P by saltyjeff

1080p is useless on anything under 50". Even after 50" it takes a good size screen for the difference to become readily apparent without putting 720p and 1080p side-by-side and looking for any minuscule differences in detail (probably 65"+). And even then 720p will still look great considering 720p can successfully produce a great looking image from a quality projector on images up to 20ft.

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Question

by nzmc36 - 4/15/07 12:19 PM In reply to: Depends on how big your TV is by bkchurch

Okay, I understand there is little point in having a small 1080p TV, but what about if you have (plan to get) a TV with 1080p resolution that's 40"? Some of the newer smaller screen sizes should look better as the lines are closer together (with the same number as the bigger 1080p screens). Is my logic wrong? The way I'm looking at it like a computer monitor used for graphics, the higher the resoultion for the screen size the better. Cheers.

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40" is too small to see 1080P details...

by grtgrfx - 4/22/07 8:53 PM In reply to: Question by nzmc36

Unless you sit 3' from your TV (and I guess some people do), you won't see the benefit of higher resolution between a 720P set and a 1080P set. The pixels are just too close together at a distance over 6' for you to see them, and that's the defining aspect of higher resolution. 720P is worse only if you can see individual pixels instead of a smooth picture, or if the picture looks blurry compared to a higher-resolution one. So, no, unless you get a 50"+ set, you cannot see the difference in detail between a 720P and 1080P set.

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Concider your source and viewing distance

by breslin - 4/23/07 6:57 AM In reply to: Question by nzmc36

If your source is SD-DVD and/or SD-TV the difference will be minimal, if any, unless you are sitting very close. If your source is HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, or HD-TV which are 1080P/i sources there will be a visible difference unless you are sitting far from the screen. With a 1080P source a 720P TV will need to scale the picture and remove 1/3 of the resolution, this will affect the details that you can see at a normal viewing distance. Also the process of scaling can introduce artifacts as well, there is a lot of variation in the quality of scaling within TVs, even different models from the same brand. The scaling can be done within the source but you still have the same considerations.

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MR SALTY 1080i IS THE STANDARD

by stewart norrie - 4/14/07 2:54 PM In reply to: 1080P vs 720P by saltyjeff

There is a great difference between 720 and 1080I but like the last post said on a small screen size you would not see any difference My opinion I would never go smaller than a 50" why squint your eyes to see the small detial also most folks regret buying postage stamp size t.v.s stewe

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TV size

by saltyjeff - 4/14/07 3:55 PM In reply to: MR SALTY 1080i IS THE STANDARD by stewart norrie

I am considering 50+. I am trying to weigh all the options, including DLP, LCD, LCD projection, LCoS, Plasma, 720P, 1080P, 50", 55", 58", 60", 65," etc...
I just don't want to buy into the marketing hype if there is not a signficant difference between certain options. The price of 720P LCD projection or DLP projection or LCoS projection has plummeted and I am tempted to go for value. I am also annoyed that so many TV's don't offer Picture-in-Picture anymore.

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Sony LCoS. . .

by Coryphaeus - 4/14/07 5:28 PM In reply to: TV size by saltyjeff

is the standard by which all are judged.

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CHECK INTO THE 50" PANASONIC TH-50PX600U, BEING PHASED......

by Riverledge - 4/14/07 6:23 PM In reply to: TV size by saltyjeff

OUT; EXCELLENT PQ for a 720p/1080i HDTV. Not only is the price right, between $1,899 and $2,199 from the quality mail order & web-sites (J&R, CRUTCHFIELD'S, B+H PHOTO, VANN's, etc....)

Features PIP; actually a split screen (requires a 2nd tuner,) also has CABLECARD which can eliminate the set-top box if you use cable. While not fantastic, the speakers are better than ordinarily found on flat screen models.

As mentioned, most folks can't distinguish between 720p,1080i & 1080p until you hit 60"+.

You really can't go wrong with this PANASONIC!!!

Good shopping,
river.

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1080p

by widojofus - 4/15/07 5:29 PM In reply to: 1080P vs 720P by saltyjeff

1080p is the best, and will be the standard in a year or so. if youre getting a hdtv i would make sure to go with an "a-list" brand (samsung and sony are probably the leaders, but mitsubishi, sharp, jvc, toshiba, and pioneer are all on par with quality). rear projection will get you the most tv for your money plus great colors, while plasma and lcd will give you as good a picture plus convenience in the viewing angle and space saving department.

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Where did you get your info?

by bkchurch - 4/16/07 8:37 AM In reply to: 1080p by widojofus

1080p is not going to be "the standard", all HD programming is in 720p and 1080i and the chances of any stations changing that anytime soon are slim to none. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray will be 1080p yes as well as some video games (though most will remain 720p). The fact is 720p and 1080i look great and 1080p is worthless until up around 50" and only shows a noticeable difference at maybe 65" and even then both 720p and 1080i will still look awesome. Only go for 1080p if you're getting a bigger screen unless you'd prefer to save some cash in which case you'll be fine with 720p.

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1080p

by widojofus - 4/16/07 12:36 PM In reply to: Where did you get your info? by bkchurch

1080p will be the standard in the near future. hddvd and bluray are getting popular, and they play in 1080p. plus, since some hd cable is 720p and most is 1080i, most 720p cant play 1080i in 1080i, and most 1080i cant play progressive material (this is considering you dont have a model that can play 720p and both 1080i and is not a 1080p set). so what i am trying to get at is to view 1080i and 720p you will need a 1080p ( there are some exceptions, like some of the samsung lcds and hitachi plasmas ect.) tv because it grandfathers both, plus plays in the sharpest resolution availabele. i hope that makes sense to you bkchurch.

Joe

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(NT) Most 720p sets can recieve both 1080i and 1080p signals

by bkchurch - 4/17/07 12:17 PM In reply to: 1080p by widojofus

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they accept them

by widojofus - 4/17/07 7:22 PM In reply to: (NT) Most 720p sets can recieve both 1080i and 1080p signals by bkchurch

but they down convert them, the 1920x1080 resolution is not being displayed.

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