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Spyware, viruses, & security : How do you keep your kids safe online?
- 4/2/07 2:22 PM
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by NKAREN - 11/16/09 4:06 PM In reply to: Kids Safe Online by thumbzillaHi Tom,
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Hope this helps.
-Karen
Toronto, Canada
Greatest Detterent is Your Children Knowing You Are Watching
by -MiraMis- - 4/12/07 9:12 AM In reply to: How do you keep your kids safe online? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I use Spector Pro software, which monitors ALL computer activity. They even have packages that allow you to do it from remote locations. I have the basic package and find that it works well. It captures screen shots (in increments that I determine), it records ALL keystrokes, it captures outgoing and incoming emails, all websites visited, chat conversations, etc. My family is aware that our computers have it installed, and they are aware that Dad checks it:o) It has proved to be a GREAT deterrent to undesirable activity and/or exposure. Granted undesirable exposure could still happen by accident, but with password access ONLY and living room computer use ONLY it is just not issue we have had to deal with in the 3 years we have operated in this manner.
Protect those little ones,
Craig
Shrek Browser For Kids With Parental Controls Is Very Cool!
by gwriter - 7/11/07 9:24 PM In reply to: Greatest Detterent is Your Children Knowing You Are Watching by -MiraMis-We just released the Shrek Browser for Kids and it is really cool. Kids Love it and it has great parental controls and is only $5.97 to download. http://www.ShrekBrowser.com
Greg
I don't even bother trying to protect my children online
by Leria - 4/12/07 9:46 AM In reply to: How do you keep your kids safe online? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I don't even bother to try to protect my children online. I have no problems with them seeing sexually explicit stuff online (Not religious at all, so I have NO problem with sexuality and them seeing sexual stuff). I don't bother putting filters on my machine, because they are a pain in the ass for when I want to use it to surf for porn or something else that the software thinks is verboten.
The only things I ever told my children about safety on the internet are things they have to do themselves to protect themselves: 1. Don't give out your real name, address, etc. on the internet, unless it's a non-specific thing, like the town or city where you live; 2. Don't make a meeting to meet ANYONE who you met online in real life, unless they tell me when they are meeting this person and have me or their mother go with them to the first meeting to scope the person out; 3. Do NOT make plans for a sexual encounter with someone online, unless you have met the person before in real life.
Those are the only three things that I have told them about safety on the internet. My daughters are smart and savvy enough that I tested them on how long it would take them to get around a filtering software when they were 7 and 9, 8 years ago. It took them less than 30 seconds to go online, find a hack for the software, and totally disable it with the option to turn it back on after they were done.
That totally turned me off filters forever.
Really, it's time to start letting children grow up, stop trying to hide information from them, and allow them to make their OWN sexual morality, not this religious sexual BS that is pushed on them by people today.
Tested them on filtering software?
by hawleywood - 4/12/07 11:09 AM In reply to: I don't even bother trying to protect my children online by LeriaIm a 25 year old father - I own a successful media firm in central Alberta.
Ok.. let's just put this into perspective.. you tested your two daughters on filtering software for windows 95? or windows millenium. 8 years ago. Because from my vast experience in operating systems - filtering softwares were very primitive and then integrated into the browser (ie 4 & 5) schematics. Keeping in mind that win95, 98, and ME were fundamentally an integrated browser (ActiveDesktop) with the Windows Kernel. By default the primary user account is the 'administrator' account. All priveleges are change-able and accessible by anyone operating that account. It's a no brainer that the admin account can stop/start services in the gpedit console. And also that a simple reboot of the computer and launching it in Safe-Mode with Networking allows any non-windows system startup files and .dll and drivers NOT to be executed. Including your 'software'.
By stating you tested saavy children and they hacked the unmentioned 'software' is the most universal and generic statement of the month. Keeping in mind it's easier to break i mean 'hack' into a house when the doors and windows are open. 
"Really, it's time to start letting children grow up, stop trying to hide information from them, and allow them to make their OWN sexual morality, not this religious sexual BS that is pushed on them by people today."
Children grow in the hearts and minds of their parents attributes. It is rare that you let children do what they please and watch them succeed as grown individuals. Moral integrity is the parents responsiblity. It appears your criteria for assessing your childrens ability to determine that which is right and wrong - has nothing to do with you being the parent or you being the role model.
I am opposed to your opinion and wonder where this religous BS you speak of comes from. Child pornography. How to brew Meth. Death Scenes. Graphic and demeaning sex scenes. Child Pornography. It is not ok to allow children to view these things at all - to let them make up their own mind about it is to abdicate your failure as a role model and true parental figure.
Teach your children well....
by 22LaLa - 4/12/07 11:50 AM In reply to: I don't even bother trying to protect my children online by LeriaSounds like you let your kids view porn on the internet because it makes it easier for you to do so. The porn industry on the internet and elsewhere is a really big business - obviously there's lots of customers. I don't see how porn has anything much to do with sexuality. It has to do with making money.
My children have requested software to filter porn after clicking on email and viewing a porn video that managed to degrade women and African Americans while illustrating creative uses of a baseball bat - all in one charming 15 second clip. I am surprised at how effective the filters have been, actually.
Eye Spy
by hawleywood - 4/12/07 10:03 AM In reply to: How do you keep your kids safe online? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I follow the same prognosis as Professor Curt. As software applications, 3rd party protocols or even ISP counter-measures really can be quite effective. The best way of keeping kids safe online is to instill moral integrity. The same way we learn that drugs are not safe, that stealing is not right, and that people shall all be treated equally.
Having a young son - i can see how easy it is to check their instant message history - IE Cache, cookies, or limit their incoming/outgoing traffic - or to set up custom firewall rules in vista or the 3rd party firewall softwares. I honestly feel this to be the safest measure - however as children grow into youth and these youth develop into teenagers with their own personalities and goals and focus' - i feel this then crosses the boundaries between letting these teenagers develop into wholesome and morally accomplished persons. The internet is a big stew of good and bad meat these days. When i first started on it back in the mid 90's it was moreso a collage of graphic-less webpages and chatting websites. Now the plethora of instantaneous knowledge and information and media assets turn the www into the single most influential (technological) factor in the lives of every human being.
Teach your children well...
I Use Yahoo's Parental Utility
by sargenti99 - 4/12/07 10:25 AM In reply to: How do you keep your kids safe online? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
With my daughter (10) having a "moveable" laptop, it's hard to keep track of where it's at. We usually have her hooked up to the downstairs bedroom where there is a lot of foot traffic between my wife and I, so we can "pop in" any time we are passing by. (Door is always open, even when friends come by. They can be the worst influence of going to the wrong web sites.) Sometimes she brings it upstairs to her bedroom to do homework. (Again, door open, and my desktop (office room)is in the bedroom next to hers.
And as a kid would do, she sometimes watches TV and surfs the I/N at the same time! But again, we can see her.
Through Yahoo, I can determine the time she can be on the computer, sites that are restricted, and it gives me list of sites she has visited via e-mail.
PC Tattletale works for us
by lewisinde - 4/12/07 11:54 AM In reply to: How do you keep your kids safe online? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
We purchased PC Tattletale about a year ago for $50 after trying it for free. It was a great investment. It allows us to check instant messages coming in and going out, all websites visited, all programs run, and we can view snapshots of the screen taken at the frequency that we set. The program also blocks undesirable websites and hides in the backround and can't be found unless we type in the right set of keys and then the passwork. We check the kids' computer activities once a week when they are out of the house. Do we feel guilty about invading the kids privacy? Ony slightly, but we feel secure knowing exactly what our kids seeing, saying, and doing online and knowing that they are safe. In this day and age extra security measures have to be taken at home to protect our kids.
The old method still works
by teeje - 4/12/07 12:44 PM In reply to: How do you keep your kids safe online? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The old tried and true method still works. TRUST! Start young and help your children grow into someone you can trust. Instill good values and a good sense of right and wrong, TALK about what they _will_ eventually come across. Oh, yeah, and if you prove to them that you're someone they can NOT trust (see previous posts on this thread about reading all their email, etc...) they certainly won't feel bad about hiding things from you.
You help children by sharing your experiences and mistakes so that they won't have to relive them all to learn from them. They think, they feel, they're alive. Work with them, not against them. Build some trust.
Couldn't have said it better!
by hawleywood - 4/12/07 2:16 PM In reply to: The old method still works by teejeno one could or will say it better than teeje. 
Reply to: The old method still works
by yukiuk - 4/12/07 2:48 PM In reply to: The old method still works by teejeHi Teeje - I am in complete agreement with your sentiments, BUT, a lot of concern is over the ACCIDENTAL linking to inappropriate sites and unwanted Pop-ups. These and other nasties can invade a home computer without any invitation. I have a 10 year old grand son who is a wonderful child and like many of his age spends quite a lot of time on the home computer. There is absolutely no way he would go searching sites for porn or nudism or anything inappropriate, he is still enjoying the 'age of innocence'. But, if the computer does not have some kind of filtering installed no amount of counseling is going to protect him.
Regards JIMBO
If you only knew.
by Archus - 4/13/07 6:20 AM In reply to: Reply to: The old method still works by yukiukAccidental linking is something that occurs, granted. However, if people would actually read my post, all the tools are there, save one.
I left off Opera, my web-browser of choice, because, well, it seems a lot of people who like it easy, dont like Opera - though it's easier than IE. Opera's browser is the pioneer of most of the features you take for granted in IE and FireFox. Plus, with both FF and Opera you can CHOOSE to block pop-ups and both will notify you when this is done. The combination of the K9, a decent Keylogger ( I use Free Keylogger available on CNET or at www.free-keylogger.com), and intelligent use of your browser will enable most parents to control their PC's better. No, it won't keep your kids from viewing porn, they can do anywhere else. It'll just make it very difficult for them to do it on any computer in your home. I would also suggest that anyone with a high-speed internet connection get a router with blocking features. The linksys WRT54GS has some very nice ones. BTW, keep your passwords SECRET! That's the easiest way for kids (and adults) to get around anything you have.
No, none of this replaces YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. It merely makes your burden of responsibility easier to handle.
Block Proxies?
by javert03 - 4/12/07 1:33 PM In reply to: How do you keep your kids safe online? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Maybe this was already addressed, but do any of the blacklists people have mentioned also keep track of websites that can be used as proxies? For instance, Google's Translate tool can be used to access any site you want. Just go to http://translate.google.com/translate?u=whatever-site-you-want.com. Do any parental control programs attempt to restrict that kind of stuff?
Yeah
by Archus - 4/13/07 6:21 AM In reply to: Block Proxies? by javert03Mentioned it in my post, as well as how to fix that issue, though it seems most people haven't looked at my post.
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