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Community weekly poll: If the U.S. had to choose one cell technology... which one?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 4/4/07 10:36 AM
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Post 31 of 53

edit abovbe post

by zoszos68 - 4/4/07 8:21 PM In reply to: What we have in Australia by zoszos68

I might be wrong about Next G phones not doing gsm as I'm sure they can be used overseas. Time for me and anyone else to do some searching.
Zos

Post 32 of 53

What ever works!

by sordello - 4/4/07 8:55 PM In reply to: What we have in Australia by zoszos68

I am a GSM user and sell CDMA and Iden service. I have to evaluate every customer to their needs and location. Personally I like GSM because I travel... This is the way to go if you travel although It is not alway cheap.

I would say simply if the world standard is GSM that is the way to go. Okay everyone... ON paper CDMA is superior. It doesn't matter - I want what works. The cell phone industry is so complicated right now and here in the US, It is very frustrating.

I know that Nextel is coming out with cross platform phones now - I've heard they are compatible with Iden,CDMA, and GSM. This is great but, what will be the cost of the phones and the service. What are the roaming charges going to be? Our area will not be able to offer these phones for sale for the foreseeable future. They are reserved for the corporate stores - not Franchises.

It is so frustrating having customers come in nearly every day asking for one and trying to explain why we can not get them one! This is a rough business - Maybe to rough for an honest salesman - LOL!

Post 33 of 53

CDMAorGSM

by lofts23 - 4/4/07 10:14 PM In reply to: If the U.S. had to choose one cell technology... which one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Nup dont care.They all have there plus&negatives.Whoever gets the iPhone will be king.

Post 34 of 53

iPhone is King?

by euspos - 4/5/07 11:13 AM In reply to: CDMAorGSM by lofts23

Although I do not agree and will not say that the iPhone is a technical marvel, I still think it initially will be a smash hit - based on the "good" name of Apple as an inventor and daring to go its own way.

But, personally I would not buy a phone w/o a (physical) key pad, w/o quickly replaceable battery, music is played nicely on my W810i and it's got a camera almost as good as any other phone on the market. And, I would NEVER buy a phone that is SIM locked to a specific carrier. That kills the entire beauty of the GSM devices (and, in all fairness some CDMA devices in Korea as well), the SIM card!

All that, iPhone will be a smashing hit because of its looks and "gotta have it" factor. It can make calls, and that's still what the majority of us use the phone for.

Post 35 of 53

bah... iPhone is overplayed

by wirelesswendy - 4/10/07 3:30 PM In reply to: iPhone is King? by euspos

I think Apple is going to be in for a big surprise... they're used to a pretty dedicated fan base in the computer market, and they've enjoyed a lot of success with the iPod even if it's not the absolute best product... but once wireless consumers get a hold of them watch out. Cell phone customers are notoriously hard to please. All they do is complain. And they've also gotten used to carrier and dealer subsidies that bring the price of the phone down. If they aren't willing to budge on the phone price I don't think they'll be as successful as they anticipate.

Post 36 of 53

GSM

by Stryker53 - 4/5/07 12:15 AM In reply to: If the U.S. had to choose one cell technology... which one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I live in Germany and I have had very,very few problems with my handy (cell phone). I have a tri-band and when I come to the US I can use it there also.
And another thing is if someone calls me it costs me nothing. I only pay for the calls I make.

Post 37 of 53

It's the Regulator, stupid!

by sauna6 - 4/6/07 8:58 AM In reply to: GSM by Stryker53

FCC did great decisions back in -84 when the Bell system was broken apart. Since then ... many ugly decisions have been made.
The main reason why the once-so-advanced U.S. telecom networks lost their leader position is the very same reason why the European governments decided to agree on a single digital mobile system, the GSM: efficiency and common good. Far East followed through soon.
The U.S. - however - allowed 5 competing network systems to be built, in a huge country which is extremely expensive to cover, especially with the high (and non-standard) 1900 MHz frequency band. No network sharing, no co-location, no strict coverage or roaming service requirements.
The question is not GSM or CDMA - the question is sensible regulation and sound technology choices. FCC is a political organization - what can you expect from politicians? USA would be better off is FCC were controlled by the Federal Reserve!
I travel, so I use GSM. My phone also uses a CDMA air interface, called UMTS. Makes Internet available anywhere.

Post 38 of 53

agree

by sdnelson33 - 4/12/07 2:55 AM In reply to: GSM by Stryker53

GSM is GREAT in Germany. I, too, have had that experience. The network has had over 15 years to mature on the same technology. Here in the U.S. there is so much more area to cover, many more miles of roads. And competing standards. So it's easy to see why the experience is so much better in Europe.

Post 39 of 53

CDMA vs GSM

by garysroka - 4/5/07 4:25 AM In reply to: If the U.S. had to choose one cell technology... which one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Having Cingular's GSM for a 2 year stint, I would say every call over any duration (5, 10 minutes) was be dropped. Of course, one got used to it, although I still felt like slamming the phone on the wall or floor when it happened. This was just not at one isolated location, but wherever I went as I do travel some on my job. Also, the "buzz buzz buzz" one hears with a GSM phone on nearby speakers (computer, tv, radio) is enough to wake the dead.

I switched to Verizon and it's CDMA technology last August, now almost 8 months with them and I've only had 3 dropped calls!!! PLUS, no annoying "buzz" at all! The difference is unbelievable. I chuckle every time I see the Cingular "fewer dropped calls - raising the bar" commercial. More so, I feel they should be taken to task for false advertising.

My feet are firmly planted in North America so no need to worry about calling the rug rats from Timbuctu.

Gary - Utica, NY

Post 40 of 53

Why be out of step w. rest of world?

by snidely9447 - 4/5/07 9:40 AM In reply to: If the U.S. had to choose one cell technology... which one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

At least Cingular/ATT saw the light 3 years ago and migrated their systems that weren't already using GSM over to GSM.
It's too late for Vz. to switch over. Sprint's very first system (in D.C.) was GSM - but for some reason built out all their others later on using CDMA.
For years CDMA's voice quality was greatly inferior to GSM. It now does seem to be equal in that regards but doesn't have nearly the flexibility and feature set of GSM.

...mike

Post 41 of 53

GSM is the standard outside the U.S. so what's the problem?

by boulderadokid - 4/5/07 2:00 PM In reply to: If the U.S. had to choose one cell technology... which one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Anyone who wants to be able to communicate in the U.S. and the rest of the World with a single device will choose GSM, End of story.

Post 42 of 53

GSM is proven world wide

by pll911 - 4/5/07 2:31 PM In reply to: If the U.S. had to choose one cell technology... which one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

CDMA may have a few more bells and whistles, but most people would just like to make a call. I use Verizon and I also have pay as you go with an old NOKIA GSM phone my brother gave me. It's really beat up but works like a charm. There may be holes with GSM but if U.S. where to make it the standard it would eliminate them.

Post 43 of 53

How about phones that just work?

by buzz73 - 4/5/07 4:23 PM In reply to: If the U.S. had to choose one cell technology... which one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

CDMA? GSM? I think we know the benefits of each. And, I think we all know how good your reception or amount of dropped calls depends on a lot of things other than the phone technology. The area you live in relation to a tower, whether or not you are in a metal building, etc, etc all play a part.

What the phone companies need to do is quit adding all these "features" such as music players and Pac-Man games and cameras to simply make a person forget that every other call gets dropped! Make phones and service that have fewer dropped calls and less static.

Post 44 of 53

FCC

by Tlil - 4/6/07 12:22 PM In reply to: If the U.S. had to choose one cell technology... which one? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

As far as fcc goes on cracking down on hearing aid compliance the obvious choice would be CDMA, since GSM uses pulses to send data the hearing aid people hear what we hear if you hold your GSM phone next to your radio, that annoying beep beep beep, if the fcc didn't have this problem with hearing aid compliance the us should choose gsm, the networks have already established them selves, i don't think that we will ever choose one over the other but i believe that it will be a case of one just slowly going to extinction unless a major breakthrough happens. i've had both technologies for phones with service providers such as verison, tmobile, and cingy. out of all id choose cingy since they have 3g coverage in Chicago and the suburbs, since verision uses evdo and cingy uses 3g id pick gsm.

Post 45 of 53

No buzz...

by sauna6 - 4/8/07 7:58 AM In reply to: FCC by Tlil

The potential hearing aid problem was long ago solved by the industry itself: loopsets etc. so there is no problem with GSM there, either, with any kind of hearing aids.
These solutions tend to require the phone to be worn on the belt, or at a distance from the head, so those who worry about RF radiation, will be happier.

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