Community weekly poll: Are you considering switching from a Windows PC to a Mac?
- 3/30/07 9:25 AM
Macs can run windows
by i,Jimbot - 3/30/07 3:42 PM In reply to: macs are ok, but not for gamers by Bob7kBob7k, go get yourself a new Mac. They can run Windows and are even Vista ready, which is not true of a lot of the PCs out there. They are not running in emulation either. I'm talking full blown Windows that will let you run all of your games. So, you run the elegance of the Mac OS for every day stuff, including multimedia and virusless Internet, then if you want to frag someone in games, you boot up into Windows and you go to town. The reviewers (not Mac reviewers even) all say that the new Macs are great Windows game machines.
What about upgrading?
by shenanigan87 - 3/30/07 3:55 PM In reply to: Macs can run windows by i,JimbotPerhaps the biggest obstacle for people to switch to Macs is the fact that all PCs can be upgraded in all possible manners, while only mac pros and powermacs are capable of doing this (and they do cost a lot). I don't really believe that all macs are good game machines, especially judging by the lower midrange graphics solutions Apple uses in the iMacs. The real gamer would probably just build his own rig, according to his very specific needs. Some whant an absolutely quiet watercooled system, some crazy folks want quad-SLI along with their quad-cores and many whant a cool case mod. Macs are optimally configured systems, but this also means that you can't modify them in most cases. Apart from that, gamers ar probably not the group macs are targeted at. Maybe the very casual ones, but real gamers probably wouldn't want to switch.
Agreed!
by dinocroc109 - 12/16/07 9:42 PM In reply to: Macs can run windows by i,JimbotYou're absolutely right. As a matter of fact, macbook pro runs vista better than any other computer out on the market today. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Macs not for gamers because why?
by momofjkg - 3/30/07 7:08 PM In reply to: macs are ok, but not for gamers by Bob7kHave you considered that lack of games for Mac is the fault of the very narrow minded (PC only) programmers and not Apple?
So what?
by mlambert890 - 3/31/07 9:09 AM In reply to: Macs not for gamers because why? by momofjkgBig deal. A user really doesnt care "why" something is the way it is. I think this is the biggest problem with these "debates". The passion on the Mac side to defend Apple and Steve Jobs against perceived attack is very very strong. Note how you immediately took to personal attack against game devs when, in reality, its simple economics. Why must Mac users treat their purchase of a tool as a religion? The vast majority of PC users in the real world (ie - outside tech forums and away from 16 year olds) dont see the PC as any different than any other tool. They certainly dont integrate it in with their core ideology. I've used both Macs and PCs personally and professionally as an IT Pro for 20 years and this weird aspect of the Mac community has really always been a turnoff for me.
the programmers
by ultranorman - 11/22/07 6:17 AM In reply to: Macs not for gamers because why? by momofjkgooOOOOoooh, its the programmers fault, RIGHT! GOOD CALL.
If people bought more Mac games there would be more Mac programmers building them... because then there would be actual money to pay them.
Changing to Mac?
by TAJUDIN MAT ISA - 11/23/07 10:35 AM In reply to: macs are ok, but not for gamers by Bob7kNo. Very few software availables compared to windows. I knew Mac is good and fast too. Hardwares are problems also, Very few stores are offering Mac. Using Windows are much easier, cheaper and most of the people I know are using Windows esp. technicians. TK
Attacks?
by i,Jimbot - 3/30/07 3:35 PM In reply to: Not switching. by finkerbellCan you provide any info on a successful attack on a Mac? Zero viruses on OS X in 5 years states that they are much more secure than XP or Vista.
I have no problems with being "locked in" to one vendor because all of my stuff works. My computer is on 24x7 and NEVER CRASHES. Years without a crash. That should tell you something.
wow - no mac viruses
by Falconias - 3/31/07 11:19 PM In reply to: Attacks? by i,Jimbotall I can say is w00t. Chances are the reason you have never had a virus is most people that write viruses don't worry about a pc and a mac version. Same reason that there are so few games for the Mac (with the exception of Blizzard games). Why write a program for 5 percent of the market when you can hit 90 percent? That said, I've used Macs in the past. On average I've been able to crash a Mac in 20 minutes most time I used one. And from what I've seen, Steve Jobs had a great vision but from what I've read he hasn't been the nicest person. If I add an OS (I won't say switch because I doubt I'll ever get rid of Windows), it will be Linux. The open source market is producing some great software. Linux, like Mac already had the features Vista is offering, and it, too, never gets a virus.
Yeah, Right...
by His SHadow - 12/16/07 10:47 PM In reply to: Not switching. by finkerbell<b>by finkerbell And with attacks on the Mac OS, the safety argument has lost its punch.</b>
Try "attack" on the Mac. A trojan that you get if you surf a lot of porn, with the caveat that you actually have to install it yourself.
Macs are virus free. Period. End of story. When that situation *actually* changes, give us a call.
The only way the security argument has "lost it's punch" is if you completely ignore reality.
The Truth
by PCMechanic - 12/17/07 11:03 AM In reply to: Yeah, Right... by His SHadowMacs are very good machines not doubt but, the truth is most computer users have Windows on their computers because that is what it came with. PC's with Windows are cheaper. Price is a factor for a lot of people. I have run Windows on a Mac and got a virus. If a virus is designed for the Windows OS you are going to get it no matter what kind of hardware you install it on. You have to take other precautions to protect Windows OS from viruses. MOST VIRUSES are designed to screw up the OS not the hardware (there are some that are designed to screw with your firmware). If everybody was using a Mac, programmers would target the Mac OS. The same is true for Linux OS. Me and most other programmers started out with PCs (and DOS which lead to Windows) because they had more programming languages (Cobol, Pascal, Basic and Fortran, I talking 80's and 90's). Now we have cross platform languages (Ruby and Java just to name a few). The popularity of Windows makes Microsoft a target. I have a Suse Linux 10 workstation and I have not gotten a virus ever since I installed it (October of 2006). As for the hardware, look inside both Macs and Pc's and check out the manufactures (memory chip, harddrive and so forth). Let us know what you find.
Peace
Switching from a WIndows PC to a Linux PC!
by baldwinl - 3/30/07 3:30 PM In reply to: Are you considering switching from a Windows PC to a Mac? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Well, not so much switching as adding a Linux PC. I must use a Windoze PC for work (certain engineering applications only run on Windoze) but for home multimedia I am building up a Linux home theater pc (HTPC) with HDTV and "TiVo" functionality.
There is nothing better about the Mac that cannot be had with Linux, but there is much that can be had with Linux that cannot be had with the Mac.
Interesting
by i,Jimbot - 3/30/07 3:39 PM In reply to: Switching from a WIndows PC to a Linux PC! by baldwinlInteresting. The Mac (hardware) is the only platform that can run Windows, OS X, Linux, and even stuff like VMS. What exactly was it again that Linux can do that a Mac (running Linux) can't? Meantime, you show me iLife running on Linux and I'll give you a dollar.
lol
by Ed-duh-win - 4/1/07 1:49 AM In reply to: Interesting by i,JimbotiLife? That's old. More like "noLife" :P
Linux comes free. Macs comes with a $2000 price tag (iMac).
$2000?
by Bob7k - 7/29/07 4:15 PM In reply to: lol by Ed-duh-win$2000 first, let me doublecheck that
theyre around $1000, but still, litterally, for that much, i could build an awesome high end gaming rig, WITH a complete watercooling system, inclusing a seprate waterblock for the AMD 6000+ dualcore AM2 processor, 2 gigs of RAM, PC8000, some of the best RAM, with a low CAS latency, a nice motherboard with dual PCI-e, and a ATI X1950XTX PCI-e card, i dont rember if this card is cross-fire or not, but still, this rig is well afordable if your thinking about getting a mac, the rig i was going to build was a little over $1100, and it included the case, which had some nice little extras, like having the motherboard plate slide out and pop off for quick fixes. you could go Intel/nVidia, and it would still stay around my 1100 range. any gamer would love to play on this rig, and the dual core is nice as it works on some of my 3d apps, like 3DS MAX and C4D from MAXON does the multicoring even better, allowing up to 16 processors to be used. there isnt much on a mac that id actually use, i dont do movie editing, and my computer is alredy equiped with an X-Fi Platinum soundcard, THX certified, so ive alredy kinda got a media center.
as for crashing, unless your retarded and changing settings and stuff you shouldnt be, windows never crashes. altho this X-Fi card was a bit prone to IRQ errors, just moving it to a new slot fixes that. i havent had a crash or blue screen of death (BSOD) in 3 years, ive only owned the rig for a little over 4. http://www.Bob7k.com/ has all my stats from a long time ago, ive since added the X-Fi card and messed with some settings.
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