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Community weekly poll: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people?
- 3/20/07 1:25 PM
Wrong? Not Always
by osxxp - 3/24/07 6:17 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
If I am at the local playground taking a picture my kid and in the background there are lots of parents and kids using the slides and swings and sanboxes, I'm not going to edit out these people or sacrifice the snapshots of my children at play.
If I am in the dog park I take pictures of other dogs playing with my dog, but if the owners are in the scene, I courteously ask if I can take a snapshot of their dogs. They seem to enjoy having someone photograph their canine family members.
Of course the pictures are not for publication. I don't publish anything online or off. However, if it was for publication, then, as the professional photographer noted, I'd need a written permission UNLESS I was taking a very wide shot of crowds at a state fair or theme park, etc.
I would think it would depend on why you are taking
by truluv2329 - 3/24/07 12:00 PM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
the pictures. I don't know that it would be wrong in essence as you can find people doing really strange things that are fun to see and show then delete. I take pictures mostly of scenery and there are sometimes people in the pictures. I don't care what the names of these people are and they are not the main focus of the picture. But, no, I do not think it is an invasion of privacy nor wrong. I would not care if ppl took my picture but, again, it would depend on what they will do with the pictures.
Dianna
Candid?
by pvandck - 3/24/07 5:07 PM In reply to: I would think it would depend on why you are taking by truluv2329"Candid", in case anyone didn't know means open and honest, not secret or furtive. Taking photos candidly is like speaking candidly.
Anyway, as I see it, and as a professional photographer, the issue really isn't so much about the taking of photographic images, rather what one does with them and the use they are put to afterwards.
52% of the way to hell already. Way to go, world!
by bedwards - 4/1/07 8:46 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
So 52% think either it's rude or perfectly fine but not wrong? This is a dismal comment on people's sense of their democratic rights. Hard to believe that the cold war fears have vanished to the extent that people no longer recognize the totalitarian threat in invasion of privacy. To say nothing of the fact that these clueless morons face a lawsuit from which they will be unlikely to extract themselves should the wrong person see the picture and gain it as evidence.
52 percent...
by DUKNROSE - 4/2/07 5:49 PM In reply to: 52% of the way to hell already. Way to go, world! by bedwardsYou apparently are one seriously disturbed individual. But, this being the North American Union, you are welcomed and celebrated. May you live long and prosper.
You're the totalitarian threat
by 94pwhref - 12/26/07 8:58 PM In reply to: 52% of the way to hell already. Way to go, world! by bedwardsThe totalitarian threat to privacy exists in the urge to tell people they are not allowed to stand in public and collect rays of bouncing light. Who the hell owns light? And what kind of angst do you undergo, with your fear of being "seen", when you consider the hundreds and thousands of cameras which the government has placed on lamp posts, in doorways, on rooftops etc? You must shiver in anger and humiliation when you stand in line in a bank. Who's looking through that camera screwed to the ceiling? Who will see the tape later on? Where will it be stored? For how long? For what purpose? Get over this "My Private Home Is Wherever I Go" fantasy.
Legal usually, morally it depends on situation
by mggordon - 4/17/07 6:10 PM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Of what use are our opinions? We seem to have no lawyers among us so lets go find some.
http://www.legallanguage.com/lawarticles/Clarida013.html
In this resource, we read "§§ 50-51 of the New York Civil Rights law, alleging that the photos were used 'for purposes of trade' without written consent" -- no doubt other states have similar statutes.
Nothing is said about MAKING the photos in the first place and in fact the magazine admits to taking photos of a 14 year old model without release, but was not sued (nor could they be) on those grounds.
http://www.ivanhoffman.com/privacyrights.html
This one talks about privacy rights in a more general way. It enumerates specific kinds of things you are NOT generally permitted to do. Again, what matters is what you DO with the photographs and who is IN the photographs.
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/policies.html
"14. Photographs are not protected by copyright unless noted. If copyrighted, permission should be obtained from the copyright owner prior to use. If not copyrighted, photographs may be reproduced and distributed without further permission from NASA. If a recognizable person appears in the photograph, use for commercial purposes may infringe a right of privacy or publicity and permission should be obtained from the recognizable person."
Note the clause "...use for COMMERCIAL PURPOSES may infringe..."
When I go out with my big Nikon D200 camera, some people fret and worry. They ought rather to worry about millions and millions of surreptitious photographers with cellphone cameras. All of them are legal, but at least you can see me coming 
In Public is Leagal but not in the home.
by crazyknarf1201 - 12/7/08 3:49 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Here is an example why it is legal in public. Point Pleasant Beach, NJ Beach has cameras all around. They even have a zoom cam to track people on the beach, boardwalk and at the Pizza place. They post it on the web. No one gets money from that.
And recently, Seaside Heights, NJ started posting their web cam photos on the web also.
Eating at a Restaurant and taking pics of the family and the wait staff gets in the shot. That would be public area.
But taking a picture of a good looking co-worker before the place is open then may need their consent.
I believe in malls that you have to get the OK from the management or staff to take pictures.
Public area business that is not allowed to take pics. CASINOS
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