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Community weekly poll: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people?
- 3/20/07 1:25 PM
Phone Cameras should be an option
by fastphoto - 3/21/07 9:50 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I am not a professional photographer but at my granddaughter's softball games, I take hundreds of photos. I always get verbal permission of the parents (both teams) before I take any photo. It is very rude and also against the law to take photos of anyone without their permission. TV camera crews are required to obtain the same permission BUT as we know they sometimes fail. TV stations have been sued for publishing the unauthorized photos/TV coverage. If someone knew you took their photo in a place when they did not want anyone to know about, you could be in deep dog droppings. People who take unauthorized photos have been known to just disappear. I would never break someone's phone if they took my photo, just their arm and throw their phone into the nearest water puddle.
Depends On What You Use Them For...
by kkomafo - 3/21/07 9:50 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Although i'm not big on pictures being taken of me by people I don't know, I'm sure there have been a few that I have been in without my knowing it. I think in general, it's natural that that happens. However, if you are intentionally taking pictures of a person, then that could be an invasion of privacy. It really depends on what the pictures are being used for. If they're family pictures that happen to have a person in the background, sure, no harm. If they're images being used for a project of some sort, then sure, that's alright too. However, if they are being used for personal gain or fulfillment of some sort, then I think that is wrong.
Yup!
by Mean Spitfire - 3/21/07 10:09 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
In a number of States/Provinces, you'd likely need a release signed by your target in order to be legal. If I noticed someone taking my picture without my consent, I would convince (within the confines of the law) that person not to do it again.
No. It's called "a public venue."
by athrillofhope - 3/21/07 10:12 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The short answer: an emphatic NO.
Here's the longer one: You can not expect to enter a public venue, like a public sidewalk, and expect the sunlight bouncing off your face and into a camera lens to be privately-owned property. You do not own the lightwaves--at least in a public venue.
Finally
by 94pwhref - 12/26/07 8:46 PM In reply to: No. It's called "a public venue." by athrillofhopeFinally, someone who understands the concept of light, and it's ownership! What a welcome sight you are!
What is it being used for?
by wibbie - 3/21/07 11:12 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Personally, I don't have an objection to my photo being taken along with the photo of the tourist's kids, or in the video of someone's holidays. I'm sure we've all captured people in the background of our pictures. I think it would be impossible and not reasonable to try to "isolate" our target subjects when we are trying to take candid photos.
I DO, however, have issue with people taking pictures that capture someone doing things that could be embarrassing, or private... no matter what, ESPECIALLY if they post those images to an Internet site or some place accessible to anyone, or share them with people who will do that. Parents do this all the time to their own kids... often using them later for wedding day blackmail, but they usually KNOW their kids and what how they will handle being embarrassed... BUT, even parents can act irresponsibly with pictures (and kids).
You have no idea how a complete stranger might react to having their nose picking photo displayed for all to see. They might be on the verge of suicide that day, and an incident like that could cause them to go over the edge! You don't know that your picture of some "hottie" in a locker room could cause utter and complete embarrassment for the lovely young mom whose privacy you've just exploited. Once the images have left YOUR hands, you can't control where they will end up. It's too easy for people to just take stuff off the Net.
Anyway... my thought is that a person that takes pictures of people needs to carefully consider whether their picture could embarrass someone, or cause distress in any way if it were to end up in the hands of someone lacking integrity. When we are in public, we need to be careful not to do things that will be the subject of a scandalous photo! When in locker rooms, be wary, and not so apt to expose yourself. Use a cubicle or large towel to change in, making it a little more difficult for the peeping Toms or Tom-ettes to get a picture of you! Teach this to children, too! Be alert to your surroundings.
My advice here is probably like "preachin' to the choir" because the unscrupulous folk out there are not likely reading this and are busy taking photos of the unwary!
Cell Phone Pictures
by Ellery - 3/21/07 11:22 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
While there is no presumption of privacy in a public place(note all the cameras for "security" purposes) It is what is done with the photo that determines the answer more than anything else. We have a First Amendment Right to Free Speech and more ways than ever to use it. But with every right comes rexponsibility. Go ahead and take the picture and let your conscience (if you have one) be your guide to what you use it for.
THE QUESTION IS
by smjcee - 3/21/07 12:28 PM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The questioner asks... Is it wrong to TAKE candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people... and the short answer is NO
What you do with them is a different question and can have serious implications.
The long answer is dependent on the second part therefore not answerable
Should it be wrong? yes I believe it should, for everyone including the "famous" so should all the other invasions of my privacy that I can not control or have no knowledge of, by persons or government
2 examples...
1] a salesman refused to sell me a cellphone [no camera] because I would not provide my post [zip] code
2] Checking into a hotel I was asked for proof of identity because I was paying cash, even though I was prepared to pay up front, ... passport... driving license... or preferably a credit card
The world had gone information crazy.
What part of PUBLIC place, don't you understand?
by Stephen92085 - 3/21/07 12:55 PM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The point, here, is that it's a PUBLIC PLACE...
That being said, I don't condone up-skirt shots, or camera-phone pictures in the locker-room (arguably "public" places, too), but if whatever is visible to the naked eye (no pun intended), then it's fair game for a picture (phone or otherwise).
Bottom line - if you don't want it to appear on the 'net, don't do it in public.
My Space
by High Desert Charlie - 3/22/07 8:49 AM In reply to: What part of PUBLIC place, don't you understand? by Stephen92085Even in public we're entitled to our personal space. If I happen to be included in the background of a picture that is obviously being taken of something or someone else, no problem. If that picture is obviously being taken of me, you are getting into my personal space. It makes people feel uncomfortable, and very uneasy when a stranger takes their picture without their permission. It's the very same feeling you get when a person gets a lot closer to your face then they need to be. Or when a person decides to stand very close to you on an empty subway car.
Candid's are fine, upskirts and ones like that are not
by Leria - 3/21/07 9:44 PM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I am fine with someone taking pictures of me on the street without my permission, as long as they are not trying to catch me in a compromising pose.
With women wearing skirts, that is more of a problem than with a man like myself, however I have heard of men being snapped while in a public restroom by another man.
Camera Phone usage...
by kspencerjr - 3/22/07 6:53 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I guess it would all depend on the context - And people involved.....I own a camera phone myself (LG VX5200); and while I've had my pic snapped while I've been out, I've never had a problem. I agree, there's a difference between PUBLIC streets and one's own home - And I also lean towards the feeling of creepiness for the women.....I personally won't snap pics of other people (If they make it in with a friend, I'll actually ask them if they mind me keeping it) - And most times, no one really cares, so it all works.
Almost every camera phone has crappy resolution, so what do you really have to gain from using one for "obscene or incriminating" use? I know I'm new with it, I guess I'm one of the ones that really doesn't care, I find it as a compliment when someone takes my pic, I assume it means I look good to them (lol)
Bottom line - If they tell you to delete it, just do it!
"NT" shouldn't be in the subject
by kspencerjr - 3/22/07 6:55 AM In reply to: Camera Phone usage... by kspencerjrSorry.....I hit "Enter" a bit too soon on reflex - And I forgot to change the subject when I edited.....I apologize
yes to cellphone pictures
by michaeltroy - 3/22/07 4:54 PM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I think taking photos of things is fine,however people are another story. If I want to take a photo someone I think it's only fine to ask first. That's just me.
Pictures of stuffed people on public streets
by BurnJW - 3/23/07 11:14 PM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Mobile phones are being used in the very way that was not intended in the begining, yes people should be able to send photos via mobile phones, but only of real time events.
They should not be used in any rude or crude way as is now happening all the time, it is my belief that those who are doing this will one day grow up and see how stupid they were and are.
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