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Community weekly poll: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people?
- 3/20/07 1:25 PM
Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people?
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) - 3/20/07 1:25 PM
Do you think it is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people on public streets?
-- No. (What if it was your picture?)
-- Yes. (Why?)
-- No, but it is rude. (Please explain.)
-- It depends. (On what?)
Candid?
by TreknologyNet - 3/20/07 7:27 PM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have no objection to anyone taking my photo in the street. All and sundry please come and take my photo, just let me know where you intend to publish it so I can sue you for using my image without my permission. That should take care of my retirement nicely, thank you.
Pics of people without their knowledge is a serious invasion
by jesskalinowsky - 3/20/07 8:41 PM In reply to: Candid? by TreknologyNetof their privacy. Frankly I think camera phones are a waste, EXCEPT in cases of emergency, i.e. accident, or where something really needs to be documented, or like someone said, a unique child activity caught "in the moment". Generally speaking, camera phones should not be used without great discretion.
I see people taking pics all the time of some hottie and I can just hear the story now, 'this was my date last night and we did......' blah blah blah! Lies lies lies. If I see someone taking a pic of me, their phone accidently crashes to the ground ..... ooops I'm so sorry..... [I am a working model and I get paid for my photos!]
"paparazzi" we do not need more of them!
pics of people in public places
by DUKNROSE - 3/21/07 5:14 PM In reply to: Pics of people without their knowledge is a serious invasion by jesskalinowskyIn public, what expectation of privacy does one have? I say, not much. If you object having your picture taken, do you also object to people looking at you?
pension plan
by smjcee - 3/20/07 9:42 PM In reply to: Candid? by TreknologyNet"I have no objection to anyone taking my photo in the street. All and sundry please come and take my photo, just let me know where you intend to publish it so I can sue you for using my image without my permission. That should take care of my retirement nicely, thank you."
and facing assault, damage, bodily harm and several other charges would be good for your retirement fund? Well I don't suppose prisoners need much these days... except to pay the legal fees
Bad Idea
by death2spam - 3/21/07 5:09 AM In reply to: Candid? by TreknologyNetI am a professional photograpgher with over 25 years experience. In many places and countries (including your own!) it is illegal to capture an image of persons in public (and private) without written consent, quite often specifically, in the form of a legaly recognized model release form. To randomly snap pics of "hottties" may not only result in costly legal action, but an nasty physical reaction by the subject ot the subjects' escort/date/spouse. Paparazzi live a risky life to get the "big pay off", and are well aware of the legal and physical risks...are you?
Illegal? I don't think so!
by rae2_2 - 3/21/07 9:54 AM In reply to: Bad Idea by death2spamIt might be illegal to PUBLISH, especially for profit, any image captured, but even then, what about a shot of a busy street with hundreds of people, etc.? Why couldn't I use that shot for a label or a logo?
Since our "authorities" see no problem in sticking cameras in every nook and cranny of our country to routinely "capture an image... without written (or any) consent" it seems ridiculous that for a private citizen to do so be considered illegal.
But then, our "authorities" legally and routinely MURDER people in gas chambers, electric chairs, injections and neck stretchers, but for some reason, we private citizens are prohibited from doing likewise. Go figure.
If you're on a PUBLIC STREET, you and your 'image' are fair game as far as I'm concerned. So sue me... fat lot of good that will do you... can't get blood from a stone!
Illegal? Not necessarily.
by inrpce - 3/21/07 10:38 AM In reply to: Illegal? I don't think so! by rae2_2If it's a legitimate news photo and you sell it for news purposes to the news media, there is absolutely no legal recourse on the part of the subject(s) of the photo. If it is for your personal album and not for profit, the same is true.
Candid photography on the street is a long tradition in photography. The work of Henri Cartier-Bresson was almost all candid. He, of course would be required to get model releases and those are not hard to get people to sign if you promise to send them a print.
I, too, have worked as a professional photographer. I had two kind of releases, a long one for professional models and a short form a lawyer provided me with for street photography.
Is it wrong to take pictures of people in public places?
by NeilFiertel - 3/24/07 10:22 PM In reply to: Illegal? I don't think so! by rae2_2Simply put, it is NOT ILLEGAL to photograph people if the person is on the street or in a clearly defined PUBLIC space. This is not to say that that person cannot sue you. In America, I understand, people sue for pretty much anything a lawyer can get a percentage on but strictly speaking it is not illegal. You might find, however, that you still might have to talk a civil court jury into accepting that. Papparazzi have made so -called candid photography a negative activity and thus, one sees less and less of such a style of photography as an art and more as a nasty aggressive act. Cartier-Bresson or Diane Arbus would not get very far in the present state of litigation regarding invasion of privacy whilst at the same time, governments and security agencies, publc and private, are busy documenting your every move. Artists never count, so what is new? Get a model release just to save yourself the hassle...or just skip the sport.
images of us in public places
by DUKNROSE - 3/23/07 6:43 PM In reply to: Bad Idea by death2spamSenior pro photogragper, whatever in the world that is, it is not illegal to take a picture of anyone in public anywhere in the world.
The exception being the nations ruled by Muslims. They'll kill you if you do. Hell, they'll kill you if don't. Can't figure those people out.
If you make money from an image of an individual, it would be best, and save yourself from a lawsuit, to get a model's release.
Indeed
by edtrimm - 3/21/07 7:11 AM In reply to: Candid? by TreknologyNetIt has been best stated by the experts here, but I reiterate: Anyone taking a picture of anybody for use in any way beyond looking at it themselves is required to get a release signed by the subject of the photo/movie, etc. That's the law. Yeah, we break the law every day because there's too many, but breaking this one is more likely to poke a giant hole in your wallet than some of the others.
HAHA ! Nice one ! Unless I'm a guy and I don't wear skirt!
by sunsource - 3/21/07 8:15 AM In reply to: Candid? by TreknologyNetI'm a guy and as a guy I never wear skirt so you could never see my underwear. As long as people take picture of me, I'll take it as a compliment. For the rest, I just hope people keep respecting other and their intimity.
It depends
by dobird - 3/20/07 7:35 PM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
If you get permission from the person but, just to take it, no! Why would ya want to take a picture of a complete stranger anyway. Also, I don't think it's wrong to take pictures of stuff. I would if I thought it was something cool!
RE: It depends
by cgramer - 3/20/07 7:42 PM In reply to: It depends by dobirdI disagree with you on this, dobird... Some of the best photos I've ever seen have been candid photos of people on the street, on the bus, in the subway, etc. One particular site I've always liked (though it hasn't been updated in ages) is www.hunkabutta.com - a photoblog done by a Canadian guy working in Japan. He's since moved back to Canada and stopped updating his blog in early 2005, so check out his archives. 
stuff
by smjcee - 3/20/07 10:49 PM In reply to: It depends by dobirddoesn't stuff belong to people too?
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