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Community weekly poll: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people?
- 3/20/07 1:25 PM
Invasion of privacy.
by nmharleyrider - 3/21/07 12:36 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
It's an invasion of my privacy. I don't have a phone or camera stuck to my ear as I think they are ridiculous. The new bluetooth head sets are even worse and make those users look like Lieutant Uhura from StarTrek. Before long out Patriot-act-crazed government will tap into all of those headsets and we'll have a bunch of zombies walking around directed by our government agencies.
startrekking
by smjcee - 3/21/07 12:50 AM In reply to: Invasion of privacy. by nmharleyriderIts life Jim ...... but not as we know it
"and we'll have a bunch of zombies walking around directed by our government agencies."
They are called politicians aren't they
spying on each other
by nmharleyrider - 3/21/07 12:38 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I think it is a disgusting way for people to spy on other people eliminating more of the always reducing privacy we individuals have. Isn't it enough we have this administration spying on Americans without making us all spies as well.
yes, it is wrong, you must ask the permission of the person.
by yenaro - 3/21/07 2:09 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
When you say here in this place on the internet, that it is not wrong, you give a general permission to everybody to take candid cell phone pictures of you.
But for me, I never want to give a general permission about something of my personality to someone or anyone,I everytime look to the individual case. Each case is different and need an individual consideration.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
by jimroberts - 3/21/07 2:45 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
It is legal for a foto to be taken in a public place. Otherwise seek permission.
If you wish to exploit a foto where ever taken commercially or not you must seek permision. But be sensitive to others feelings.
How would you like it if someone uses something of yours to improve there campaign at your expense.
Biblically "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
Do people use mobiles on the bog?
by Plasmaplus - 3/21/07 2:51 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
You have to weigh up the pros and cons of Cell phone cameras bearing in mind the type of person using it and what for. I consider myself reasonably intelligent and use my camera phone only to show off images of my family and pets, or as a toy for my grandson. I may use it if I came across a robbery, or an accident that required some evidence etc. I would never take someone’s photo without their permission. What I do find incomprehensible is that the younger element and particularly young women and girls cannot go even yards without a mobile phone. Any high street seems On the other hand to be populated with hundreds of people with earache, all walking along holding an ear. What I do find annoying is the intrusion into my everyday life of mobile phones. Buses, train’s, streets, and shops are filled with loud conversations filling my void. And if you dare to glance at them disapprovingly, you risk a mind your on business sneer. I once had to endure a mobile conversation on train journey spoken very loudly in falsetto which lasted from Oxford to Evesham, where the lady got off. She was laden down with shopping but was still talking to her daughter as she alighted from the train. Both she and her daughter only put their phones away as they met at the station. After all it would have been impossible to hold a hand up an ear, while alighting from a train loaded down with shopping and giving your daughter a kiss. Perhaps she should have had hands free.
Same Rules
by geodesy - 3/21/07 3:39 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The same rules should apply as for regular photography. No matter the medium - real film or digital - or the nature of the camera - Hasselblad to phone camera - all the same rules apply. Whatever was appropriate prior to the digital revolution is still in force.
I vote Yes.
by tmccool - 3/21/07 4:40 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
But it depends. If it's for my personal use (and I really don't want to know what that might be!), it's probably OK but just a little creepy. But if someone is posting these online there is a real issue with using a private person's image for public use without their permission. It could open the photo taker/poster to legal action. A person on the street who is not a public figure has a certain expectation of privacy. Posting a picture of me picking my nose when I think no one is looking is an invasion of my privacy and I have legal recourse.
Wrong...............
by baran220 - 3/21/07 5:22 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
If someone is trying to take my picture without my permission, they better kiss their camera or camera phone good-bye.
Cell Phones
by ALEXMORT - 3/21/07 10:30 PM In reply to: Wrong............... by baran220High Desert Charlie has said about everything I think about them. I use a prepaid card $15 for 6 months and my wife and I barely touch it. We have it just for emergencies.
i hate using it, and even more I hate having to be subjected to other people's inane one sided conversations when I'm on public transport. To make it worse they nearly always seem to have to shout.
One time we were having a late night trip on the Manly ferry. it was a glorious night and the outside deck was full. Everyone seemed to be enjoying the starry sky and the peacefulness. Then this American tourist got onto his cell phone to speak with (or more correctly at) his girlfriend (or boyfriend?). Well, we couldn't help but hear all about his trip during the previous few days. My God, he ruined the night for everyone due to his selfishness.
Perhaps we all should have had cell phones with cameras and all at once turned them on him to photograph him. He might have got the message.
Kiss Yourself
by 94pwhref - 12/26/07 8:24 PM In reply to: Wrong............... by baran220I'll take a picture of you in a public place if I want to, and if you think I'm kissing my camera goodbye as a result of anything you do, you'll be reconsidering that thought as you're laying on the ground looking up on the sky with my bootprint on your face.
Pictures of people in public? It's as old as photography
by 163man - 3/21/07 5:43 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Where do you think all those interesting images in Time, Life, US News and other weekly magazines come from? How about the art books on life in it's many conditions, they are out there by the thousands. Public photography of people without their permission has been going on since the camera was first invented. Do I like the fact that someone could make money on the misfortunes of others, personal tragedy, moments of embarrassment? No, but it's what we call journalism. If the picture is of a famous person it's called paparazzi, for the rest of us nobodies it's called documentaries, study of the human condition, reportage etc. And one of the other comments was correct below if it's sold as fine art it's legal even without your permission or knowledge.
The only area I detest is after a likeness is used as news without your permission many news outlets, and photo journalists do turn around and sell people's pictures for profit having nothing to do with journalism and news coverage. Most people never complain as it gives them their 15 minutes of fame. And all those people saying they'd love to have it done to them so they could sue, think again you'd loose. Even celebrities rarely win that one it's been too common too long and if your not a person of influence or high station your not going to make a dime most of the time.
You have no "rights"
by byronlord00 - 3/21/07 6:03 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Here is a problem that has created itself. There was a time when such a thing would have been considered unthinkable as a thing that "cultured" people simply did not do.
As everything today seems to boil down to cliches about "Rights", perhaps we need to rewrite the Golden Rule - your rights stop where my rights begin. We Americans seem to be a little confused about the whole subject of "Rights" to begin with. Grab a copy of the Constitution and actually read the first 10 amendments - the "Bill of Rights" outlines what the Government cannot do - they are used as a basis for arguing out what our "Rights" may, or my not, be. In the end, it all comes down to exercising personal responsibility.
You should not have to worry about having your picture taken candidly because, hopefully, the "shootee" should be walking a mile in your shoes to begin with. As long as a smoker is being as consciencous as possible with their second-hand smoke, the recipient should at least give credit where it is due. We all need to exercise our "public voices" when outside the confines of our castle in the same way we insist our children use their "inside voices" - what the ancients used to call "setting a good example". Random acts of kindness - why should they be random and why is it just an act? As we continue to increase the thickness of our skin in our passionate defense of our right to do whatever we want to in the moment (a clear triumph of the Id over the SuperEgo), we should not complain if "the system" starts employing more liberal applications of the Disorderly Conduct statutes.
Everyone should have an reasonable expectation of privacy no matter where they are and I would question the maturity of those who seem to take great personal pleasure in this new-age voyeurism.
As a cautionary note, do not always dismiss the candid photographer as simply a rude or over-enthusiastic innocent caught up in an orgasm of new technology. The CCD of a camera-phone will also reveal any infra-red alarm sensors in the area and large megapixel, high resolution photos can be used in the preparation of a crime - sometimes it's not the subject in the foreground that is being photographed.
Illicit Intent!
by kurtpochert - 3/21/07 6:36 AM In reply to: You have no "rights" by byronlord00Today’s society is indeed trying to rewrite the Golden Rule to say my "rights" supersede yours. Wrong! Always reverse your logic when you say you "have the right", and ask if you would mind being the recipient of your actions. “Illicit intent” are two words that stick in my mind most in this situation, as well as every other situation that we encounter in our lives. Yup, the Golden Rule sure does keep us humble, doesn’t it?
cell phone pictures
by sticstac67 - 3/21/07 6:15 AM In reply to: Is wrong to take candid cell phone pictures of stuff/people? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Even though aperson is on a public street, that person still has privacy rights
sticstac76
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