Windows Vista: Windows Vista Bugs
Vista problems
by ChaSni - 3/15/07 6:47 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamI am having such trouble with web sites using Java but I dont know if the problem is Windows Defender, Vista or some setting in Norton. It drives me crazy that I can't access the site where I have to do my expense reports from my PC.
Let's think for a minute
by Bayardk - 3/15/07 6:51 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamThink for a minute. All of these third-party vendors make their income from selling Windows products. Vista's release has been hyped for years, longer than a presidential campaign. Did all of these vendors simultaneously go lazy or insane and decide not to have product ready, decide to lose revenue by missing the release? If it were one or two, then maybe, but all of these product vendors? Not likely. A more reasonable explanation would be that API previews were not provided by Microsoft in time for the vendors to create Vista versions of their software.
BTW, I was a "since Win 3.0" user, too, and jumped to Mac (Panther) in late 2003. Words can't describe how wonderful it's been. It takes a week or so to adjust, but then you're okay. Then a week or two later you're forced to use a Windows box for some reason and you wonder why you put up with it for so long.
New Box
by ChaSni - 3/15/07 6:59 AM In reply to: Let's think for a minute by BayardkSo my old PC had to go, I got a new one with Vista already on because XP was no longer avail. this really is bad.
Vista
by mdzakiansari - 3/15/07 7:03 AM In reply to: Let's think for a minute by BayardkI agree with you entirely. The problem is with Microsoft and not the vendors. It is nothing but cheating if new computers load vista by default.
Vista and Software
by ellen307 - 3/15/07 7:01 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamMy personal feeling are software companies have know Vista would be released. I feel they shoul dhave upgrade their software so we would not be faced with buying a new computer with out enought software.
Cannot really blame Microsoft.
vista bugs
by johannes koedood - 3/15/07 7:02 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohami only advice to wait to buy it at least 1 year to give the manufactures time to do good work with there drivers to blame is microsoft with there lack of time and try to rusch there produckts into the publick market
Live by the sword, die by the sword
by hameiri - 3/15/07 7:03 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamThere's plenty of blame to go around, but I think that the reason Microsoft has been number one, is that they have kept their compatibility with so many devices and software. Without that compatibility, most people would not be running Windows.
Additionally, Microsoft is pretty cavalier when it comes to their old OSes. They do everything they can to get us to the new system. Well, if they want us on the new system, I would think it's THEIR responsibility to try and make as many things compatible with it as they can.
I too am seriously thinking of going to OS X for my next computer. I'm pretty sick of DRM and Genuine Advantage, not to mention their licensing policies.
But, remember, Apple is even less interested in compatibility!
Microsoft and third-party vendor track record.
by pbear98 - 3/15/07 7:03 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamIf you wish to update to a new computer with Vista or you upgrade your old computer to Vista is up to you but think first! Have you ever seen a new OS from Microsoft that did not have Third-Party issues!
If you do update or upgrade it's at your own risk!
Microsoft Vista
by alejoniyi - 3/15/07 7:06 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamI think the time has come for Microsoft to stop and consider everyone, not just their pocketbook. If I upgrade to Vista I will have to replace, or at the least upgrade all my printers, scanners, external hard drives, camera software, etc. etc. etc. because nothing works with Vista. Come to think of it Vista doesn't work with Vista, at least not until about the second or third service pack comes out. I guess I'm from the old school. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I went through upgrading from 3.1 to 95 to 98 to 98se to 2000 to XP and had to upgrade something if not everything each time. All they have to do is make things backward compatible to make everyone happy. Sorry Microsoft I ain't buying. When they stop servicing XP I will but a MAC.
Vista incompatabilities
by randmart - 3/15/07 7:07 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamThe question overlooked by so many here is why did MS create so many incompatabilities for such a small gain in functionality in Vista? If this were what Longhorn was originally envisioned to be with a new file system and major underlying improvements in the security approach, then I could see the need for many incopatabilities. However, this is not the case. Vista just doesn't justify the expense or trouble for most users. That is why upgrade sales will remain low and largely limnited to the curious and uninformed.
Microsoft Responsibility
by songbookz - 3/15/07 7:15 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamIt is MS's responsibility to make the new OS backwards compatible, it's new equipment and software provider's responsibility to make sure their stuff keeps up and takes advantage of any new capabilities the new OS provides. MS should be compelled to put a big fat label on their boxes that Vista will likely be incompatible with existing equipment and software.
For myself, I have no intention of upgrading until I am forced to replace this computer. Upgrading to a new computer and OS will be too cost prohibitive when one considers what I will have to pay for new versions of the software and equipment I use.
Microsoft at Fault, Maybe
by hamarsha - 3/15/07 7:15 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamEveryone in the business shares some of the blame, hardware vendors and the likes.
A three year old laptop with a 64 bit processor can't run windows vista because of the video card, It's a marketing ploy and the consumer is being bilked.
It's expensive to stay up to date, why can't the equipment be bios upgradeable to meet the new specs or more drivers to emulate what's needed. One workaround and another workaround just to stay on the bleeding edge of technology.
Maybe we should blame the consumer for listening and believing the hype.
SOME companies Op System upgrades ARE seamless -------->>>
by babzter - 3/15/07 7:18 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamI know, because I worked with them. You just loaded the new OS, and the sytem worked immediately, with minimal configuration changes. It was amazing. You could literally put your OS on a disk and swap it out. All the programs, drivers, etc., continued to work great.
Maybe if MicroMindSoft concentrated on the OS and not monopolizing the application software market, we long-time IT people wouldn't wait TWO YEARS before upgrading to the latest OS release. You know the old joke:
Q: What do you call Microsoft Customers?
A: Beta Testers.......
BTW......
by babzter - 3/15/07 7:23 AM In reply to: SOME companies Op System upgrades ARE seamless -------->>> by babzterI AM going to a MAC for my next system. Those I know who have are deliriously happy with their decision, like my relatives, friends, neighbors, cats, and coworkers......
Customer Service Issues
by dgrantham - 3/15/07 7:21 AM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamFirst let me say that I just purchased a new laptop with Vista Business already installed and so far I am completly impressed. I have used apple before, but this is better. As far as upgrading, you have to expect some issues. Technology moves forward, if your hardware and software cant meet the demands of the new technology, then it needs to be replaced...otherwise keep using what you were using.
If you buy a new car, the same model as your old one from 5 years ago, you don't expect that the parts are going to be interchangable, nor do you blame the car manufacturer. Instead, you expect that the parts manufactuer will make new compatible parts.
If you set out to make a better product, not just an upgrade, why should you have to work backwords so that your product will be compatible with the tens of thousands of software and hardware manufacturers? Wouldn't you just be releaseing Windows XP 2? That doesn't make sense.
Alot of this is profit taking from the manufacturers, if they don't update the drivers to their products, then you will be forced to upgrage their product.
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