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In My (not too) Humble Opinion it's M$ fault entirely.
by coureurd - 3/14/07 8:44 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamI'm not a programmer, but it seems to me that M$ could have and should have made sure that anything that worked on XP would work on Vista.
I knew this day would come.
by emoryu21 - 3/14/07 8:49 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamWell I myself have a few Windows computers. One from the 80's its Windows 3.1 and I got one from the 90's (Running 98 and XP even though its "impossible" to run XP on it) and my 2006 Compaq Presario V2508WM which is running Windows XP. Now let me tell you this. I have ran Mac OS X 10.4.6 on this laptop. I wanted to check it out. No problems what so ever. It was nice and easy to use. Now it ran on a Project OS X86 incompatible computer (as I have never seen my laptop on there anywhere and I cant do a "proper" install). So yeah make the switch to Mac. Microsoft has been screwing us all over for YEARS. I'm sick of it. I'm switching back to Mac. I used Apple computers on and off through out the entire time I was in school. I'm sick of the Windows flaws. Vista is the beginning of the end for Microsoft. Most of the problems with your drivers and software are Microsoft's fault for not making sure Vista was backwards compatible. That's a common problem with Windows computers. They are never FULLY backwards compatible. They can drop the hardware the way Apple does... little at a time. But software should never be dropped. Never.
New OS gliches
by fsintora - 3/14/07 8:51 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamI too am frustrated with Vista and all the incompatabilites. On one side I am frustrated with Windows and on the other hand I am frustrated with all the other software and hardware companies for not investing enough time to create patches ahead of time to correct these issues. I spent about a month researching whether or not to switch to a Mac. In the end, I figured I would have more compatibility issues dealing with work related software on a Mac. Then another issue is with the new IE 7. I can't even access Microsoft Outlook Web Access and reply to my work e-mails. When I try to load the patch I get an error that I don't have enough storage to process the command. I am not a whiz at computers but with a two week old Dell XPS 410, I don't understand how I don't have enough storage. It's like buying a new electric or hybrid car. As fast as computers get outdated, how come the computer and software companies don't work together to keep them up. I am not sure how long it will take for the rest of the companies to jump on with Vista. The fact of the matter is that MS is working hard to improve their technology but the other companies are not working as fast. I'm not sure that Vista is that much better than XP to say that I am happy with it. MS Office 2007 has improved somewhat but............I would much rather have waited another year or so before taking the Vista jump.
SOLUTION TO VISTA
by ivodiaz - 3/14/07 8:52 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamTHE SOLUTION IN ONE WORD : APPLE
Vista is not wearing any clothes.
by paulatinvisionnetworkdoca - 3/14/07 8:54 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamIntelligence is never a guarantee for good decision making but I was gobsmacked when I sat down to review our departments first Vista system. Desperately trying to keep an open mind my staff and I kept asking "who thought that was a good idea" and "didn't they think to test this"? Some of the changes were genuinely stupid-bad, like the changes to the wireless information that makes it difficult to spot a man-in-the-middle wifi proxy. I'm with photoham on this one: we just brought our first Mac into our offices as a trial unit. I never thought I would say this but I am actually considering jumping ship as well. Frankly, I think we're all tired of being pay-as-you go beta-testers for Microsoft. During all the delays prior to Vista's release, didn't anyone at Microsoft consider doing a market study of what the majority of users really felt was needed?
Windows Vista Bugs
by chillmog - 3/14/07 9:01 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamMicrosoft seems to have completely abandoned the concept of "backwards compatibility" with their previous products. I refrain from further comment.
Compatibility Issues
by Sonal Maheshwari - 3/14/07 9:03 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamI ran the beta version of Vista and really, the only thing I saw that I liked about it was the search functions. I was disgusted about the lack of compatability with my hardware...couldn't even print to my color laser printer (the B&W one still worked). After suffering through it and some unknown-why-they-did-it changes, I decided to start over with XP Pro. I don't know why they had to make all of those changes except that it will probably sell more instructional software and classes.
Gil
total agreement
by fluxinator - 3/14/07 9:05 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamyes I've been watching this game play out and I agree that there's no need to upgrade to vista for any reason.My next computer will also be a mac.I've had nothing but problems with xp and no help from microsoft.enjoy life and prosper is what I've tried to do,and encourage all others to as well.
Vista Upgrade
by eblangley - 3/14/07 9:07 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamMy office will be getting the Vista upgrade soon and I asked our medical software company if they were compatible. She said they were working hard on it. We've known Vista was coming for a long time and the third party vendors knew it too. They've had lots of time to work on compatibility. We are going to install it and we will work through the problems. If somebody didn't do it, technology would be so slow to advance. I hated it when Win 98 came out, but I learned to love it. The same with XP. I've had issues with Microsoft, but they have improved in their compatibility with other products. And without the research Microsoft has done, we might still be in a DOS prompt. New technology is all good, bugs and all.
Bought a Mac for my wife today
by kellykovach - 3/14/07 9:08 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamWell, it's done 8 months of complaining to Microsoft during the Beta Testing and then spending 150 bucks for the REAL thing last month, an we are through with all the headaches. We went out and bought a shiny new(refurbished) macbook and she is sitting next to me smiling while finally able to watch her beloved CW videos on the net. I can finally get our wireless all in one to recognize the printer and our home automation software works fine without resetting the darn thermostat back to 55 degrees everynight. She is happy but I'm not. Yeh, I could have downgraded to XP but then I was like... "Why would I install 5 year old carpet into a 1 year old home, nope... I want the latest greatest thing out there". Vista sure is not it. I'm sure by SP2 all the kinks will be ironed out i'll go ahead and finaly get rid of XP and 2000 off our other computers, cause I'm not switching...well at least not until my wife tells me to. But lets see how long this experiment lasts in our family... there is always ebay if things go south.
Stop the bleeding!!!
by jdevarie - 3/14/07 9:09 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamI think this thread is nonsense. Upgrading to VISTA is just optional. They have specific requirements and it is obvious new hardware is needed if you have paid attention to sellers selling VISTA ready computers. There is even a tool in the MS website to check your computer for VISTA compatibility.
I am no Windows advocate as I go with what works. I have high end Mac computers as well as PCs and UNIX boxes. All of them have their issues. I don't think switching to any of those is the solution if you come from the Windows world.
Vista has been out for a while now and I have not even touched it. I have several thousands of dollars in software in my PC computers that I am not willing to stop using because some careless developer missed the VISTA boat. I will get new hardware before I move to VISTA and would make sure it works with it.
Again, all OSs that I know of have their issues. I think MS did what they had to, they released a working operating system, it is the little perks that bother most as they may have hardware that do not meet the requirements. As to VISTA drivers not being available yet, I would blame the third party vendors as it is up to them to ensure that their product would work in potentially 80% of PCs worldwide.
Macs right now run Windows XP, there is no news regarding VISTA drivers for the MAC so people wouuld be stuck with it and most of the good stuff out there won't run on a MAC running OSX so there is no clear solution at this time.
Read the fine print!!!
Read what you wrote....
by dakz2006 - 3/14/07 9:35 PM In reply to: Stop the bleeding!!! by jdevarieYes the sellers have requirements, but look again at the real requirements for vista home basic, it is really pretty weak! 800mhz processor, 512mb RAM, DVD Drive, Even the Ultimate edition is way behind where technology is, a 1ghz processor, (Thats a P3) 1gb RAM, 15gb drive space and a DVD drive these are not state of the art systems not even to a Mac user! You have to see it for what it is, everytime a major version of Windows comes out, and it's been 5 years, we are told by the kids at best buy, etc. that we need the newest and the best to run this, well Microsoft disagrees with this, and the requirements I listed are from their site. Now you tell me is retail, and manufacturers trying to shove new stuff down our throats that we really don't need, or is it Microsoft, is the sagging computer industry tired of Selling computer systems with printers, and LCD monitors for $399 and have found a way to jack the price up because hey this has a vista logo on it, so what, Microsoft does not manufacture the vista logos, the equipment manufactureres do! I build computer systems everyday in my shop that are vista ready they meet and exceed all the requirements that MS call for, once again, we as consumers are our own worst enemy!!
Won't upgrade my laptop.
by paoconnell - 3/14/07 9:14 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamAccording to MS's Vista compatibility utility, the video chip for my laptop isn't compatible with Vista, and i can't upgrade that video chip. Apparently Vista doesn't play well with older software, either.
When I buy my next PC, I might have them install WinXP Pro because it runs with most Windows software, including most older stuff.
Blame, blame, ease my pain...
by M7 - 3/14/07 9:20 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamHuge Microsoft makes an easy target for nearsighted gun slingers, but they can't be held responsible for every other software company out there.
Any computer savvy person knows not to salivate on "micro software's" raw meat. They let the market grill cook it 'till all the bugs die and then they eat steak.
Michael Chavez
You know, it's funny....
by sue-donya freckleton - 3/14/07 9:22 PM In reply to: Windows Vista Bugs by photohamFor all of those who insist that Microsoft is somehow obligated to ensue forward compatibility of every other device, software, and driver, nobody seems to be able to answer what should be a very simple question. Why?
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