Community weekly poll: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista?
- 3/14/07 12:59 PM
Two examples of lack of Vista drivers
by HRS2005 - 3/14/07 5:01 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Although I haven't tried to find drivers for all the peripherals I could be attaching to my Vista PC, here are two I am very disappointed about not having:
1) Fully functional drivers for the HP Photosmart 7960 printer. Vista has limited-functionality drivers built-in but nothing approaching the full control of the printer that the XP drivers provide.
2) Belkin Wireless G PCI Wi-Fi card (version 3). Belkin's site says they're being worked on, but nothing yet.
HP Photosmart Printer
by SoundAdviceCT - 3/15/07 7:26 AM In reply to: Two examples of lack of Vista drivers by HRS2005As I found out yesterday from HP that there is no update for my Photosmart 1115 printer....yet! They said the engineers are working on it. Now HP had to know that this operating system was coming out and should have resolved compatability issues before the consumer went to a new operating system
Vista not the problem.
by chongchongworks - 3/14/07 5:03 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
New operating systems come out frequently and the sotware and hardware companies know that. Several companies have released updates to their products. Windows/Microsoft is building and growing their company; shouldn't others do the same.
3dsmax 9
by Gack - 3/14/07 8:39 PM In reply to: Vista not the problem. by chongchongworksautodesk confirms that 3dsmax 9 is NOT compatible with vista at all and even after the patch due soon (available only to subscribers) it will still run slower in vista than in xp!
Blame the individual vendors, not M$
by Krackcode - 3/14/07 10:03 PM In reply to: Vista not the problem. by chongchongworksM$ made vista available to the general public long before it's street date. At the very least, at that same time, but probably sooner, developers of hardware and software alike, had more then ample advance notice to get their programs/hardware drivers vista compatible.
In my opinion, Microsoft has done an excellent job with Vista thus far. There are going to be bugs, every OS/program has them; and it can literally take years to discover conflicts that OS's share with with different software and hardware.
What chaps my hide about "vista ready" toted software, is that it is not always so. I have purchased quite a few "Vista" compatible applications and even done a few hardware installs for family and friends. While I was able to eventually get these items to work with Vista, I certainly wouldn't call them Vista ready until a person with little to no experience with the PC realm, being able to install apps and hardware aditions without having to do work arounds.
Printers and Telephone sofware/drivers issues using Vista
by movesen - 3/14/07 11:14 PM In reply to: Vista not the problem. by chongchongworksI now use Vista, but have had (still have some) the following isues
1) Nokia PC Suite (No release ready before next months)
2) Canon G2 software (Now using the Smartcard directly and use the ready in by new printer and not the cable to the camera)
3) Dymo Labelwriter 40 (No solution to this issue yet)
Please note the Danish Banks requires that you change there site to trusted sited using IE (Nykredit and DanskeBank/BG bank)
Programs that don't work w/ Vista + one fix
by wlawliss - 3/14/07 5:05 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
So far I've found that these don't work:
-Creative drivers for the Zen Vision M MP3 Player. The system actually killed two MP3 players-locked them up so they were unable to be seen again by the computer. I'm now buying a differnect brand, probably IRiver.
-Kodak Easyshare photo/video software--the video does not work because it requires Quicktime and Quicktime is incompatible w/ vista. This can be fixed by downloading the freeware program Quicktime Alternative--which is actually better that Quicktime anyway.
-Some of Lightscribe's software-which is funny because a lightscribe burner came on my new Vista computer.
What is really wierd is the programs that DO work on Vista. I have many old programs like VOACAP and some military training programs that work fine on vista. Many of them were put out before XP. So if they work fine w/o any upgrades, why do so many new programs crash? It kind of makes you wonder.
I was nervous about buying Vista, but ended up with it because I really needed a new computer and because I often troubleshoot computers as part of my job. I figured this way I'd get a headstart on learning Vista before it became really common. I have to admit that after a very frustraing learning curve (they changed the location of a lot of commands) I am starting to like it better than XP.
The worst thing right now is remembering to change all my filed to an earlier format before I send them out to others.
Not MS's fault
by bderou2 - 3/14/07 5:08 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
If Vista had been pushed out quickly, then yeah...blame MS for doing a half-a$$ job. However, this was in the works for how long?? I can't even remember. So in my opinion, OEM's have had PELENTY of time to either write patches for the new OS, or new versions, or see that their software runs on Vista.
I was in the beta test and we saw MAJOR OEM's that, when approached about updated drivers, for instance, their response was "when Vista is released, we'll worry about it then! I know I've moved away from Creative Sound Cards, just for that attitude. I think they FINALLy have a working driver package, but to me...too late! My money has gone elsewhere.
Plus I've seen too many people jsut ignore warnings such as "you must remove this package before upgrading to Vista and then you can reinstall it"...or..."remove this version before runing the upgrade and then reinstall an updated version of ____" That's ignored and then people say 'well, I don't know why my program won't run'. 'Did you read this right here? (pointing to the warning)' 'uhhhh...no'. Ok then!
Percentage sw incompatiblities with Vista
by Leeham369 - 3/14/07 5:16 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The only problem I'm having with Vista is a few of my games are not
compatible.They are Tiger Woods 2007 PGA Tour,two fishing games
& one Flight simulator game.I contacted EA Sports & they said they don't have any updates at this time for Vista.
HP's Acts (lack of drivers) Are Criminal
by EscapePod - 3/14/07 5:29 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Having one LaserJet, two DeskJets, one PhotoSmart, and two ScanJets in my home office, for HP to say they don't even intend to provide Vista drivers for a few of them is criminal. For them to "recommend" which HP products are suitable replacements is irresponsible. They need to provide drivers for all their products, even if they are not MS "certified" -- as long as they work.
I guess my replacement printers and scanners will bear logos from Epson, Canon, and even Brother (which I could just toss out without feeling guilty if they don't work with the "next" OS).
Vista is nice but I have problems
by coffeecan - 3/14/07 5:57 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
We're a five computer home and small office setup. Have a brand new laptop with vista factory installed. Vista itself works just fine. But the interfacing ability with other products is not there yet. Would guess the percentage problem so far about 40%. But that 40% has been critical.Bought a new Canon printer to go with it. When I installed the printer disk, it sent me to their webpage for download of drivers for vista. Installed the new drivers and it works well but it took some browsing around the page to decipher exctly what other stuff was supposed to go where. I'm thankful that this company had the drivers Some of the other companies don't have the vista drivers yet! There was a trial version of Mcafee and it works all right but it expires in 30 days so tried to renew and can't find out exactly how because the web site says it's internet suite is not compatible with vista. Went to Norton because I like their program and have had extremely goodluck with it. Norton's internet suite not compatible with vista either but they have new type program that uses less of the computers facilities and has gotten good marks from critics but it's not avaiable until end of march. Bought the new computer because another one failed and we needed it right away so thought would just go ahead and buy vista. BUT, if you can, wait til all settles down before you buy. Haven't really installed many other programs to check compatability so can't realy report that yet.
Microsoft vs. the rest of us
by waytron - 3/14/07 5:58 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Ok, I have to admit that I love to bash Microsoft. But I think the industry as a whole has decided to take this opportunity to cash in and let the blame fall on Microsoft. Any hardware company could provide Vista drivers if they really wanted, but would much rather sell you all new equipment. What they should really do is start selling drivers for a modest fee. The thing that really burned me this past week was discovering that Microsoft was charging $4000.00 for a Daylight Savings Patch for Small Business Server 2000.
Vista Problems - Not happy with it.
by Veejay14 - 3/14/07 5:59 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I had to buy a new PC in a hurry when my Win XP model "died".
I have several times almost given up on Vista and installed my old Win XP and SP2 from CDs!!!
Despite the new PC being a Hewlett Packard I could not get my HP all in one Printer to work as I wanted it - it was a while before I discovered that I couldn't use the CD that came with the printer/scanner!
There is of course no Serial Port for a Serial Printer so my trusty 880C is no longer of use (not really a Vista problem but a pain in the proverbial nevertheless!
I can't use Zone Alarm Internet Suite (which is a major bind for me - and I'd just paid for a year!)
I can't use Mailwasher and dislike the Windows Mail Spam/Phishing filters.
I can't tell what is going on when I defrag - there is no info on progress at all.
The old File Manager/Windows Explorer style listings are now too big and clunky and I find them unwieldy.
I can't run Surveys from some of the firms I previously used as they don't work with Vista.
I couldn't use my Tiscali Broadband Modem until I'd spent a week discovering the set-up procedure needed to bypass having a new Modem.
I don't yet know what problems I'll have with my computer games but I'll bet my Doom and Quake (+Command & Conquer) will not be compatible.....
Most unhappy and wish I'd taken longer to find a new PC with XP instead.
John, York, UK
Most software vendors just lick their chops at Vista
by labelguyphil - 3/14/07 6:01 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Item that don't work with Vista? Cannon wireless printer, a logisys keyboard, quickbooks pro (was told to buy the new $400 version as that is only one that intuit would write the needed drivers for) Seagull Scientific's Bartender Pro (had to buy a $200 upgraded new version to print customer bar codes), an older Acdsee software, Sonic Solutions Easy Media Creator 9 purchased in November (was told to "wait" for a patch, and have been waitinga few weeks now), to name a few.... Seems everyone makes more cash off the upgrades
I'm very happy with Vista!
by iluvmiputer - 3/14/07 6:18 PM In reply to: What percentage of sw or hw are incompatiblities with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I purchased a new Dell XPS410 on Feb. 12th with the Vista OS and the following programs are installed and seem to be fine:
JASC Paint Shop Pro 8.1
Adobe Photoshop CS
WinZip 11
RoboMaster 2.4
Ad-Aware
MultiMon Taskbar
Printers Apprentice 7.5
Quick Books Pro 2006
Quicken 2007
Spybot
SpywareBlaster
Hardware:
Epson Stylus Photo 1280
Epson Stylus Photo R200
Wacom Intuos 3
As far as my Wacom Intuos 3 graphics tablet goes, they had the drivers on their site before my PC arrived and when I installed them, to my great surprise they were even better than before! Now if Wacom can do it........so can the rest!!!
The first week I had the new PC one of the techs at Dell suggested that when I install my apps I use the "Program Compatibility Wizard" and I believed that has helped me more than anything. A couple of my programs were not supposed to be compatible: JASC PSP 8.1 and Quick Books 2006, but I've not had a problem with them.
As for Epson, I am very unhappy with them because the drivers that are compatible with Vista don't have the same features that I had, like the ink indicators and a preview prior to printing. The Epson 1280 was a $500 printer so I darn well expected to have full features! I also have a $400 Epson Perfection 2450 scanner that Epson is not planning to support with Vista. I have written a letter to the Pres. & CEO of Epson America, but there's not been enough time to have a response from him yet.
I also, this past October, purchased a $400 cutter/plotter from Graphtec and they still don't have Vista drivers available. It is my understanding that they won't be available until sometime in July. There is no way in h**l that they didn't know Vista was soon to be released when I made that purchase!
It is my opinion that the software and hardware manufacturers are the ones that have "dropped the ball", NOT Microsoft! I am actually quite pleased with Vista!!!
Mind you, this is just my humble opinion!
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