Compatibility is still the manufacturer's responsibility. Sorry.
The point here is not that the machine vendors are doing this....get a clue. Here is an example-you decide how YOU would handle this:
Dell (pick a vendor) is presented with an ultimatum-pay when MS releases new OS, as of big release date pay $XX for each PC loaded the latest or pay $XX + $40 for loading it with old OS. Multiply by 1 million machines! What would you do?
Microslut has been PROVEN to do this kind of thing-what don't you get? It's not an "Alien conspiracy" -see later moronic post-it's a real and persistent problem! I for one choose to vote with my feet-I'll leave Vista to the sheeple.....
Masterworx, I'm on your side in this debate. I was just pointing out one facet of the many cons associated with Microslut, as you call the giant.
Of all the ways that this new OS has impacted people, (friends, co-workers, and relatives) the idea that you can buy a machine with the latest and greatest OS in history, then unpack this new machine with great expectations, only to have it barely running, is a crime. It is criminal. This may be another thread but Igiveup2 posted elsewhere that if you want to support a monopoly then everyone buy Apple, because in that example there is only one machine builder, and the lack of competition is what creates a problem. Ummmm, Igiveup2, a question if I may. Where is Microsluts competition? Thanks in advance for your answer. +FORGIVEN+ I won't even address the moron with the aluminum helmet, because as long as he is okay, that's all that matters.
Unless you know for a fact that XP OEM costs $40 more than Vista OEM, you're just sucking things out of your thumb. Dell is also developing support for Linux/Unix. Is MS forcing them to do that, too?
Competition is good. It will be interesting to see if Linux makes a run on MS's dominance. I wish Linux users well and I may become one someday. But for now, the Vista that came with my laptop is just fine and I see no reason to choose an OS just to be "politically correct" any more than I see a reason for satisfied XP users to switch.
You say, "competition". Then you say, "politically correct". ?????
You have a choice as you are an advanced PC user. Novices, and newbies don't have a choice because they don't even know LINUX exists. They know Apple exists as competition, but as you say, "ONE machine maker is not good for competition". So why can't we at least say something negative about VISTA. If anyone is trying to censure it's you. We have objections to the largest business in the history of mankind, and then we get told by you to "get a grip".? WOW.
Last post, not wasting my time with Igiveup2, because he doesn't give up.
And to protect myself, whenever I'm using my Vista OS I'll wear a tinfoil helmet to keep Bill Gates from beaming mind control radio signals into my brain! Everybody should do that! Have you got yours? Resist! Join the rebellion of the vendors! Lagging on compatibility and alienating their customer base is a great way to teach Bad Billy Boy a lesson!
im running vista on my PC with P4, 3GHz, 512 RAM and its running as smooth as XP does...
im using it with multimedia applications with ease.. though compatibility issue still persists that i agree, otherwise its cool..
I have 2.8ghz, 1mb and I had a smooth instalation. I like it so much on my desktop, i'm going to buy a new laptop so that it can run Vista. I have run several operating systems in the past, such as Red Hat, BeOS, Ect. This is one of the best. since it's similar, to OS10 I like it more. Cheaper than buying a Mac, same user freindly enviroment. I deal with numbers all day long and type all day long; when i come home i want to boot my computer, play my game, talk to freinds, ect. in a nice GUI enviroment that is pleasing to the eye and not prone to failure, which i have not had any trouble with it so far.
What are you talking about? You didn't say what processor, just the speed. You also can't buy 1mb of anything. If you are not going to give proper specs, then don't disagree with someone who gave precise specs. You do not know what you are talking about and lack true passion on the subject as well.
Enjoy your intellectual triumph. And they were agreeing, not disagreeing. If you want passion, go to the opera. We're just trying to figure stuff out here.
After paring down the startup programs, RAM use is less than 750MB on the web. Google Desktop is a RAM hog that duplicates a lot of Vista features.
That fact that you put the caps lock on, and that there are mis-spelled words throughout your posting, indicates that you were most likely ticked off when writing it. I have to ask myself what are you so mad about? I had to read it several times to make any sense out of it.
On the one hand you tell people to cut Vista and Microsoft a little slack because all O.S.'s have "bugs" to work out.
Then you start in on the problems you have had with Vista vs your own computer!
Here's the bottom line:
Vista...it's all a bunch of HYPE, therefore, I don't see any need to "upgrade" my computer. If pouring more money into the pockets of Bill Gates and hardware/software companys just to make it ready for the great Vista O.S. is what you want to do than go for it!
I don't see any need for it.
I beta tested Vista last year; I looked at it from a consumer's perspective(which wasn't hard, being a 'consumer' myself
). My philosophy is- "what can this product DO for me? What can it DO more of, or BETTER than the product I am now using? Is the product sufficiently superior such that I would be motivated to pay $$ for it, and use it in favor of the product I am currently using? First, I must say that the drivers included in Vista correctly ran all my hardware. I did not have a printer hooked to this machine but using my networked printer on another machine was not a problem. I found it a bit annoying that all the familiar pathways in the o/s had been re-arranged...kind of like when a supermarket gets a new assistant manager that wants to make a name for himself, and shuffles the products all around the store, from where the customer is familiar. The enchanced 'security' features are familiar to those that run Linux desktops; having to login as Admin to make certain changes is not a bad idea, but I'm sure it would be irritating to the typical Windows user that's used to the "wide-open" permissions of previous MS products. I did not test Internet Explorer or Outlook Express(I know, bad bad beta tester!) since I had been using Firefox browser and Thunderbird email client for the last 3 years...3 years of being trojan free, virus free and hijack free.
My Vista impression? Well, I thank MS for the opportunity to evaluate their new product. However, for the foreseeable future it appears that XP will fulfill my Windows needs adequately. Perhaps if one were tied to a particular financial or graphics application that's only ported to Windows, then Vista would be 'mandatory'. I have no such needs, personally. Being a "hardware enthusist", the need for increased system memory and higher-end graphics card to properly benefit from using Vista does not present a problem for me; just the thought of being 'forced-to' does. My personal preference is for a "leaner-and-meaner" operating system, which is why I am migrating from Windows to linux, and now am using FreeBSD 6.2 on one of my machines, and finding it to be not-so intimidating as some might have thought it to be.
/off topic/
I hope Steve Ballmer's motivation for the MS-Novell pact is to 'reach-out-and-join-hands' with the rest of the Community, rather than aspire to further dominance.
I have an all-in-one printer hooked up to a Microsoft Vista PC. After installing the Vista, I found the vendor-provided software did not work. I went to the company's website and found a warm greeting telling me the workarounds until a solution could be provided. A little more digging found a press release informing me that the vendor had proudly been working with Microsoft for 2 years during the development of Vista. I'm wondering, "What can be done in a few months that hasn't been done in 2 years?"
I love Vista, but I am going to wait to install it on my other computers until I see where the aftermarket support leads me.
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