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Browsers: IE 7.0 - WOW - all these complaints; Too much time spent.
IE 7.0 - WOW - all these complaints; Too much time spent.
by Prandy - 11/1/06 6:50 PMAfter hearing all the bad news about IE7.0, I reset my automatic updates so they send a message but do not download and install. I figure it will take at least six months for them to get it correct. I plan to install all other critical updates. Have I done the correct thing ?
Roll your own dice...
by cgarrity - 11/2/06 12:24 AM In reply to: IE 7.0 - WOW - all these complaints; Too much time spent. by PrandyI've had IE 7 running for a couple of weeks now and love it. I think some of the complainers about IE 7 are anti-MS types that love their Foxfire. If that's what floats their boat, so be it
fallacy
by frank_wood - 4/28/07 4:50 AM In reply to: Roll your own dice... by cgarrity"anti-MS types that love their Foxfire". I think that is the fallacy known as argumentum ad hominem - attacking the person rather than the argument. I am not anti-MS but I am very unhappy with IE7. I had to convert to it because the IE6 that came on the machine I bought in January stalled every few hours. Unfortunately, IE7 has several problems when used with Office 2007. No one at the Microsoft forums I have searched is entirely clear on what the source of the problem is.
From what I have read, Firefox has become about as widely used or more widely used than IE7 - which makes the relative absence of questions/complaints about Firefox on this forum interesting.
(NT) It went down fine for me. NT see my review.
by Paul3637 - 11/4/06 9:19 AM In reply to: IE 7.0 - WOW - all these complaints; Too much time spent. by PrandyI can't blame you...
by John.Wilkinson
- 11/4/06 9:27 AM
In reply to: IE 7.0 - WOW - all these complaints; Too much time spent. by Prandy
I've been running IE7 since Beta 1, but with several known bugs that Microsoft has yet to address as well as some sites not working properly with it (particularly those that use Flash) I can't blame you for avoiding it. If Internet Explorer was my primary browser and not Firefox I certainly would have reverted by now due to some of the problems I have encountered. Thankfully the majority of IE7 users have not had the same difficulties, but that 'small' percentage still represents a large number of people, considering it has already been installed by millions of users. You could give it a shot and see if you are 'one of the lucky ones,' and if not uninstall it. If you're wary, though, the best thing to do is simply give it time to mature.
John
Small percentage represents large number of people?
by mrniceguy35 - 11/4/06 10:58 AM In reply to: I can't blame you... by John.Wilkinson
I'm not sure I understood the second part of your comment about ''the small percentage representing a large amount of people,'' considering millions of people have downloaded and have installed it. Right before that you said a majority of people haven't had the same or any difficulties with IE7. I thought majority meant large and minority meant small. But like I said, maybe I'm not getting the point your are trying to make in that particular part of your comment.
(NT) Nit picker! :D:D ;)
by glenn30 - 11/4/06 11:04 AM In reply to: Small percentage represents large number of people? by mrniceguy35What I meant...
by John.Wilkinson - 11/4/06 11:17 AM
In reply to: Small percentage represents large number of people? by mrniceguy35
What I meant is that the more people that download/install a product and give feedback the more significant the percentages become. For instance:
* If 20 people download IE7 and statistically 10% have problems then it's just 2 customers with issues. That could easily be explained away as them doing something wrong, having rare incompatible software.
* If, however, you have 20 million downloads and the same 10% report problems, that means you have 2 million unhappy customers. It may still be a small percentage of users, but suddenly you have a very large number of complaints.
In Microsoft's case it is the latter. Now, it's still ''just'' 10% but I think they will find it is considerably more difficult to tell 2 million users they don't know what they are doing or blame it on some other product's compatibility issues than they would if it were just a handful of people.
john
P.S. Those statistics are not factual; they are simply used for representational purposes.
You are correct.
by Paul3637 - 11/4/06 12:02 PM In reply to: What I meant... by John.Wilkinson
What percent of people think Windows Media Player 11 is a disaster. I am one. Am I the only one?
Disaster?
by mrniceguy35 - 3/5/07 2:00 PM In reply to: You are correct. by Paul3637I don't know if I'd call it a disaster, but immediately uninstalled it and went back to the previous version because I didn't like the look of version 11.
No
by Me, Myself and You - 4/29/07 5:42 AM In reply to: You are correct. by Paul3637I didnt like WMP 11 Either. It, like Windows Live Messenger, was slow and not as stable as I'd like.
So its back to Messenger 7.5 and Windows Media Player 9 for me. IE7 is the only "new" Microsoft thing I use at the moment.
I see what you are saying now
by mrniceguy35 - 11/4/06 12:45 PM In reply to: What I meant... by John.Wilkinson
Now I understand the point you are making. 10% seems small in most cases, but because Microsoft is such a big company and their software is used (or downloaded in installed) by millions it seems a lot worse. I just don't care for when people criticize and be hard on Microsoft as much as they are. I'll leave it at that as I could go on and on.
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