If you shift to FIOS, you cannot get a phone connnection using a old copper phone connection.
Cable companies are different since the phone conversation are routed in packets through the internet and is much cheaper than copper wires (connected to your telephone company to your house or apt),except for the capital expenses of laying the cable. As long you can talk on the phone you really do not care. In facts it is just cause few dollars a month and rest are profits. Most unlimited plans are $39.99 and above.Profit margins are high as 90 percent.
If you choose to take cable company as your basic telephone provider, it is certainly not cheap unless you accept the bundle of internet, telphone and television channels.
If you choose just the telephone and not any of those mentioned, there you get into problem. Since there is no copper wiring any more, local phone providers just cannot connect a telephone to your home.
Not even Verizon(since they are not going to lay copper lines for you again). Unless you choose to keep FIOS. Lot of folks agree this monopolizes the service provider since the other compannies do not have access to fiber optic shareing unlike the copper wires which can be leased.
That is what I meant.I do not intend to pick up a discussion on this matter. If there is something wrong in this post, please do reply with explanations
Corporate watcher!
Best for either cable or phone company. I know some complain bitterly about the local cable rates as they are north of 60 a month. That's just for the cable TV. The 3 in one deal is 99.99 a month with unlimited calling and more.
The phone co deal with the tri fecta is 99.99 a month here as well. Here they supply either DSL plus Sat TV or FIOS (does all 3) depending on the area is or is not FIOS.
I symp with those that think that the paying field should be level but it isn't.
What do I do? I take the tri fecta and have saved a lot in just one year.
Bob
3 months later and im experiencing the same exact thing as lutetia. They ask for the a call back number but never call back....... He did a line test and give me some bs that im actualy getting more than wut im paying for??? I wonder if ppl really fall for that? And yea they told me to call customer service but its closed for me too since its a sunday =[.
Verizon seems to allocate bandwith on a revolving basis. My DSL speed will get very slow, like now, 96k! and other times will be 384k. It never approaches the advertized speed rate. the problem is not my computer, modem etc. if that was the case, the problem would always be prresent. the variable is on Verizon's end and it has to do with inadequate bandwidth. They move it around depending on who is complaining the most. i've notice that when I run speed check, Toast, they will pump it up, since their software can determine who is monitoring speed. In general, verizon is a poor provider of DSL service.
After readin' this entire thread, I have finally...and thats after me thinkin' about it for well over one year now...made a decision as to whether or not I should upgrade my dinosaurish dial-up to somethin' that's, well.....a bit faster. My choices were either Verizon DSL or Time Warner Cable's whatever-the-heck-its-called....with both choices bein' bundled packages and both bein' MUCH higher priced than what I'm currently payin' now ($9.95).
For the first time in my 50 year old life (and with a lotta input from you good folks here at CNET) my decision has just been made...and almost effortlessly at that.
Verizon DSL won't be comin' to THIS ol' gal's computer any time soon.
I wish I had come here a LOT sooner!
MeanDonnaJean
http://www.MeanDonnaJean2.deardiary.net
I have had the same EXACT problems as you! I thought that DSL was supposed to mean Dedicated Service Line, hence there should be NO issue based on higher traffic.
Verizon has recently begun to offer FiOs in my neighborhood.
Being the cynic that I am, I wonder if THEY are messing around with the DSL speeds in an effort to move people to the higher priced FiOs.
Problem is, this is just pissing me off MORE, and eager to find a Verizon alternative!
It is not in my area yet but, what you say could be true about the service we are getting now. It is more money but if the service is good it would be well worth it. They have three speed selections.
Up to 5 Mbps/2 Mbps
Up to 15 Mbps/2 Mbps
Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mbps
And the best part is FIOS TV, I do not know what they would do about Direct TV. Which they Advertise.
Entertainment is becoming very expensive, (if the service is good it would not be bad).
If you get it let us know how it is.
Good Luck:
Wendell H
Seeing as how everyone here is having the same problems as I have had..in the past.. I would suggest switching to Cable as I did. When I switched, (last week Friday 23rd), I noticed that when the Cable representatives came and hooked up the modem, my speed actually increased greatly, and it was actually between the hours of 4pm and 11pm, 4 pm to be exact. Usually between those times, my internet speed would GREATLY decrease, but it didn't. This is where I knew for sure that it was not my phone lines, filters, or any sort of thing relating to my phones. So in the end, I am done with Verizon after 6 years, and I am actually glad I changed to Cable. So thanks for the help anyway to all those that actually gave advice! Have a great day!
I use ZoneAlarm and I had both Cable & Verizon at the same time, That was because I was getting rid off Verizon and I wanted to make a decision. The Speed was there for Cable. I was not sure about the security, I did not know how many attacks was getting through my firewall. The amount off attacks I was getting in two months with Verizon I got in a day with Cable.
I had the trusted Zone set at high on ZoneAlarm on both Computers the one with cable & the one with verizon. I even switched computers to see if it was a different setting on the computer that was not set the same, but I got the same results.
Guess what I kept cable for 6 months before I switched back to Verizon.
I now have verizon and dealing with the good and the bad speed that I get at times.
I am waiting for Verizon FIOS to get in my area, and I will go for Fios.
Good Luck:
Wendell H
I wont try anything from verizon after my DSL experience.
maybe if we do that they will change their ways...i submitted to 7 on your side after i saw this post
since they advertise UP TO 3MB im not sure theres any thing we can do about anything but change providers....but would be great to expose their practices
i have residential dsl UP TO 3MB...ive had service with verizon for 7years and past few weeks its been unacceptable but had been fine before then (lucky me)...so just like everyone else tech support says its problem on my end etc...so i decided to check my download rates thru dslreports.com periodically through the day and i see a pattern...basically while everyones at work they reduce download rates but magically around 530-6pmish til maybe 1am or so and on the weekends the rates jump up to 2500kb....but i work from home so slow rates during the day dont work for me.
below is what i have recorded...im aware the rates arent 100% accurate due to servers speeds etc but it give a good overall picture
should get 3mbps down, 864up
2/24
1230pm 428 ?
130pm 213 667
155pm 680 ?
2pm 209 675
215pm 347 710
4pm 344 671
517pm 1050 665
520pm 590 681
610pm 2182 345
1793 393
651pm 2015 428
2/25
1231am 2307 676
143pm 379 628
2/26
123am 2542 ?
1139am 1752 679
1150am 2353 370
315pm 253 ?
433pm 703 678
439pm 542 ?
2/27
230am 1905 ?
1215pm 1393 ?
215pm 668 684
2/28
500pm 262 595
500pm 277 675
615pm 2736 637
630pm 2472 626
740pm 2738 672
3/1
351pm 513 650
624pm 2428 667
3/2-friday
116am 1468 424
1124am 1079 483
122pm 750 495
125pm 336 410
130pm 864 684
645pm 2488 678
915pm 1696 418
945pm 1912 386
3/3-saturday
1250am 1711 463
124pm 2261 507
445pm 2119 385
cnet didnt keep my text formatting
first 4-3 numbers are download
last 3 or ? is the upload rate
I'd be really pleased if V provided even 50% of what I'm paying for. I got the cheapo plan of 800k since they have never gotten the speed close to that on my line. They consistently provide from 96-288. Often lower with fairly common non-delivery of email and other crap such as dropped ISP. I have their phone service also including wireless. Verizon consistently delivers voice mail up to 2 weeks after it is sent. Really the most crappy service imaginable.
Verizon phone techs are mostly idiots that are hired without a clue. The y ALWAYS give the wrong advice and technical consult. I regularly ask for the manager when the "tech" opens its mouth from the start wanting me to go through a complete system configuration, reboots, etc. The problem has always been in Verizon's setting "in the office".
They oversell what they can deliver like the airlines overselling seats. Then they catch up to it some time later, based on who complains the most. Verizon's DSL lines definitely are not dedicated. The bandwidth definitely changes with the time of the day and who is on-line. I tried to send emails with attachments yesterday for hours and their server would not handle them except at an extremely slow rate, eventually failing completely. I'd like to know if anyone has good DSL service in NW Indiana?
I can say that is true about some techs have the knowledge and some do not have it. When the techs give the wrong advice it can be very annoying. I have delt with that for years with verizon, it comes to the point where I get annoyed and ask to speak to a supervisor.
Good luck
Wendell H
Verizon slogan should be "Verizon where technology meets failure."
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