Community weekly poll: Who do you predict will win the HD format war?
- 2/6/07 2:50 PM
Blu-Ray will win this one...
by troyisaacs - 2/7/07 7:01 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
As alot of us old school techies remember the VHS and Beta wars, 95% of us couldn't afford either one back in the day.
Today I would bet the Ranch on Sony, why? Because Sony has been down this road before and they have the resources to smash the competition.
Maybe they learned something from Microsoft too!
HD Format War
by manokent - 2/7/07 7:05 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
Now that LG have released a player for both formats it wont be long before others follow so with luck both will survive and as we all know, compoetition keeps prices down and consumers will benefit.
Blu-ray
by foreman33 - 2/7/07 7:05 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
Untill the price comes way down I'm sure that the average person will stick with the current technology. Way too expensive for what you are getting in return.
Bluray will win and it's simple why.
by jparkeriv - 2/7/07 7:25 AM In reply to: Blu-ray by foreman33Bluray and HD DVD are virtually the same, but the American public are mindless drones when it comes to technology, as proven by the iPod dominance. There are so many superior players out there for the same or better prices but since everyone wants to be looked at and considered cool, the sheep will all buy the iPod. The Bluray format, as with the iPod, has the cooler sounding name therefore the sheep will buy it and it will win the war.
HD-DVD will win by a long margin...
by szoruba - 2/7/07 7:10 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
My friend and I have been comparing HD DVD and Blu-Ray movies for months now.
With the second generation of players out, HD DVD is now available in 1080P like Blu-Ray, and are more affordibly priced.
In terms of image quaility, HD DVD looks very smooth because the current movies released are based on the newer codecs. Blu-Ray movies seem very grainy and are based on older codecs such as MPEG-2.
Many times, Blu-Ray movies are just a little better than their DVD counterparts. That is sad.
Also, Blu-Ray movies cost more than HD DVD. Just go online and compare pricing.
At this point, I think HD DVD is ahead and Blu-Ray might become the one headed towards extinction. But you never know.
I love Sony's ad on their Blu-Ray movies..."beyond high-definition". Sure!!
Nothing more needs to be said about Sony!
Sony and Blu-ray?
by TreknologyNet - 2/7/07 7:13 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
Firstly, I'm not aware that Sony has an interest in Blu-ray beyond having chosen it has a preferred format.
Secondly, I do not think it was Sony's ban on "adult entertainment" that brought Beta undone. Like Apple, they wouldn't let anyone else make it, whereas VHS like the PC was allowed to proliferate. That was the big mistake. If Sony had allowed others to manufacture Beta there's a good chance it would still be a consumer product (oh, no! I paid $900 for a clock!). Likewise if Apple opened its doors and allowed blatant hardware copying, then they would have a much bigger slice of the action than they do at the moment.
I agree with others that in this day and age, dual-format drives will be norm, and hot-pluggable silicon will replace discs anyway. I will likewise be waiting for dual-format burners before looking to add to my computer, and will only consider a disc-player when the video shop tells me I can't get normal DVD anymore.
Yes. I would like to see hi-resolution product re-mastered in more space with significantly less compression so that I don't have to put up with video and audio artefacts.
Both formats will be around for a while longer...
by rjlevin - 2/7/07 7:25 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
As, most others here have noted, this is the same song, just new players - Beta vs. VHS. With all due respect, I don't believe that Porn's favoring VHS made that big of an impact on the final result as much as the price of the players / recorders. VHS got cheaper faster and had longer record times if I remember correctly (I was 12 years old when this Beta vs. VHS was going on). The reason my lower middle class family bought a VHS system rather than a Beta Max was economics... cheaper price. If that was the criteria today concerning which one would prevail, then HD DVD would be kicking Blu-Ray's butt. However, the big difference today, as opposed to the Beta vs. VHS, is that the studios have, for the most part lined up on one format or the other, instead of releasing titles in both formats. The reason they can do this, is because they have the Standard DVD format to cushion them, which is still the big game on the block, due to the fact that nearly everyone has a standard DVD player, that watches movies at home on a recorded media. At $50 a pop for a DVD player, it will be a long time before HD DVD or Blu-Ray can threaten the hold Standard DVD format has on the market. It is also for that reason... all studios are still releasing their titles in Standard DVD as well as their pick of the HD formats, that will prolong this format battle, unlike Beta vs. VHS, when it was there was no cushion format so both formats were used by most if not all studios to get maximum consumer market saturation. That leaves the fate of the formats up to the techees and the folks that just like to try to impress the Jones down the street or the guys at work, as the affluence of these folks will likely decide the viability of the formats to continue. If we start to see the studios give in and start releasing their titles in both formats, it will likely come down to who has the cheapest and most reliable players available.
One last note, I have seen both Blu-ray and HD DVD players in demo displays at the local electronics stores, and both worked without pixeling (Tiling) or jitters. The only player I saw that had pixeling issues was the PlayStation 3's at Wal-Mart during game demos. Of course I haven't read any bad reviews from Home Theater magazine or other such publications concerning pixeling during Blu-Ray movies. Maybe I missed that article, but if it were a common problem with that format, I would have expected to have read about it somewhere other than here.
Anyway, the first of the dual-format players should begin arriving in the 2nd quarter of this year, I believe I read on CNet reviews. And while very expensive to begin with ($1300.00 SMRP), maybe by this time next year the dual players will be starting to get reasonable, and it will very likely drive the prices of both single format High Def players down enough for us tight-wads to buy one!
JMHO.
not going to matter that much
by staunskaer - 2/7/07 7:26 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
it's a format war over the old way of distributing content. Some time in the not too distant future we will download all the content that previously went on DVD's why this format war is a bit outdated.
neither will win
by smithds - 2/7/07 7:28 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
As the two formats battle, net delivery is progressing. I would not be surprised if buying movies on a piece of plastic becomes obsolete compared to the efficiencies of internet delivery and storage on home giga drives
I go with neither because...
by OneIJack - 2/7/07 7:42 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
I think both may die out because of downloadable content. data transfer rate is only going to get faster and faster so I'd think HD or Blueray might die out.
Why my selection of "OTHER" is the ACTUAL future:
by movieflow - 2/7/07 7:44 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
David Lynch put it best at a recent screening of his new, shot on DV, motion picture, "Inland Empire": "The future of TV and film is on the internet."
That's why it really doensn't matter WHICH format "wins" - because its going to be a very brief victory. I personally know people who are developing the NEXT wave of content delivery over IP, and its all HD-DVD quality. What studio or distributor WOULDN'T want to leapfrog over the hassles of distributing actual discs with related manufacturing/packaging/shipping costs, when they can simply upload one copy-protected (DRM) file to a few content distribution websites (their own and/or5 someone else's) and start raking in the dough?
Read the writing on the walls people! Save your money on a "next generation" stand-alone player, and invest in a media savvy computer (like the dual-core Mac Mini - complete with HDMI [via DVI] and optical out ports on the back!) and hook THAT up to your HDTV instead!
That's the "other" in OTHER.
(And why should my opinion matter? Because, among other things, I have been designing and installing home theaters professionally for over 18 years now, AND, like I mentioned earlier, I know people who are actually doing everything I've discussed above, including developing those HD delivery websites... and we're not talking hours of download time, but minutes!)
Take THAT, "Blue-HD-Ray-DVD"...
"OTHER" is the correct answer...
by movieflow - 2/7/07 7:50 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
David Lynch put it best at a recent screening of his new, shot on DV motion picture, 'Inland Empire': "The future of TV and film is on the internet."
That's why it really doesn't matter WHICH format "wins" - because its going to be a very brief victory. I personally know people who are developing the NEXT wave of content delivery over IP, and its all HD-DVD quality. What studio or distributor WOULDN'T want to leapfrog over the hassles of distributing actual discs with related manufacturing/packaging/shipping costs, when they can simply upload one copy-protected (DRM) file to a few content distribution websites (their own and/or someone else's) and start raking in the dough instantly (without the pesky manufacturing recoup period!)?
Read the writing on the walls people! Save your money on a "next generation" stand-alone player, and invest in a media-savvy computer (like the dual-core Mac Mini - complete with HDMI [via DVI] and optical out ports on the back!) and hook THAT up to your HDTV instead!
That's the "other" in OTHER.
(And why should my opinion matter? Because, among OTHER things, I have been designing and installing home theaters professionally for over 18 years now, AND, like I mentioned earlier, I know people who are actually doing everything I've discussed above, including developing those HD delivery websites... and we're not talking hours of download time, but minutes!)
Take THAT, "Blue-HD-Ray-DVD"...
Both will be around
by glass6210 - 2/7/07 7:52 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
LG announced that they would have a unit on the shelves by March 2007 that will play both Blue-ray and HD DVD‘s. LG demonstrated it capabilities at the CES show in January 2007. It worked perfectly. Warner Brother introduced a high definition video disc that would play in either player. There goes the format war, just like the super audio CD’s and DVD-Audio.
HD-DVD will win.
by gudguy - 2/7/07 7:57 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
First, allow me to address those who believe that the two formats will co-exist together. Let's just say:
"Two go in; One comes out!"
Why? Because, "It has always been thus."
It was that way with stereo vs. quadraphonic.
It was that way with cassettes vs. 8-tracks.
It was that way with cassettes vs. El cassettes.
It was that way with VHS vs Betamax.
It will be that way with HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray DVD.
Quadraphonic stereo was superior in quality to stereo, but stereo was cheaper!
El cassettes were superior in quality to cassettes, but cassettes were cheaper!
Betamax was superior in quality to VHS, but VHS was cheaper! Additionally, VHS had the porn industry behind them!
Blu-ray DVD is superior to HD-DVD, but HD-DVD is cheaper! Additionally, HD-DVD will have the porn industry behind them!
Therefore, I have to conclude, based on historical evidence, HD-DVD will win the DVD wars!
So am I excited about the DVD war? Not really. I'm waiting for the mass storage memory chips to become common place. It should improve reliability imensely, because it will eliminate any moving parts. It should also improve speed and quality! Now THAT will be exciting!!!
HD DVD will win
by wangbang - 2/7/07 8:00 AM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett
Why? Because Blu-Ray is a stupid name. When someone sees HD DVD, you think, High Definition DVD. What the hell is Blu-Ray? It's doomed just like the Betamax--another stupid name.
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