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Community weekly poll: Who do you predict will win the HD format war?

by Marc Bennett Moderator - 2/6/07 2:50 PM
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Post 46 of 238

yes but alot of people will see it

by vinzul - 2/7/07 10:14 AM In reply to: Meh by eibbor7

People want to have the best of the best. If what you where saying is true then we might not even have cd's, mp3 or dvd's. Besides if you go to the store and compare the two you will see a big difference in sound and video. People allways want more.

Yes spending more money for dvd's and players suck but in time they will cost $50-200 like they do now. Remember when dvd first hit the seen? Everyone said why pay more money for dvd's and a new player? those same people own tons of dvd's and new players.

You maybe happy with the low quilty of your dvds that play on your $1000+ plasma but I paid for my plasma to watch High def not just above cable

so heres the deal if your the cheap type. At one point blueray or HD will cost just as much as players and dvd's do now. One day you will need a new player so why not buy that $50-$100 HD-DVD player that plays your old dvd's and the new hd-dvd's and from that day on you will buy hd-dvd's because ether they stoped making the old dvd's (like vhs) or becuase the cost is the same.

Post 47 of 238

if you didn't care

by CobNat - 2/7/07 11:41 AM In reply to: Meh by eibbor7

you wouldn't be here. why bother commenting on something you wish would fade into obscurity. i waited to upgrade my little 30 inch crt that i've had for the last 15 years until i saw something i liked. i bought the 46 inch 1080p, triple HDMI input, wide screen and why would i waste that watching traditional DVD's. i bought my PS3 to replace my original PlayStation in order to take advantage of the resolution and be able to play games. better or worse, $600 for a combined device is well worth it and watching DVD's in Blu-Ray is like going from silent films to color (yes i skipped monochrome viewing on purpose).

Post 48 of 238

lots of difference

by slak423 - 2/7/07 11:57 PM In reply to: Meh by eibbor7

you've obviously never watched HD TV.. there's an amazing difference in HD and regular DVD.

Post 49 of 238

I hope they both die off

by aka_tripleB - 2/6/07 10:07 PM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett Moderator

It's just the movie studios way of putting more restrictions on a marginally better technology. Most movies are capable of being put on a standard DVD in 1080i resolution that most people would be happy with even compared to 1080p. Also, other than HD disks, there is really no other medium that can take advantage of the added resolution, so it would be a waste of money for little improvement.

Secondly, how many people watch the added material? On top of that, who watches it more than once? So not including it, wouldn't upset too many people. So, why would you need 30-50 GB?

Really, the only people who could use either one are business that could use the disks for backups. Which point, it doesn't matter if it ever comes down to a signal format because it would be just another company with a different "tape" drive.

Post 50 of 238

blu ray will dominate

by ashrodd02 - 2/6/07 10:10 PM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett Moderator

blu ray HD format is being backed by sony, who has already have connections and contracts with the production of movies and music. sony will pull somthing off to to keep them in domination, like resrict HD-DVD to contain and of sonys products

and with the realease of PS3, with a built in blu ray drive, how can consumers who already have a PS3 to side with HD-DVD??

sony has obviously planned this war out many year ago, when blu ray was first being developed, and and you can see that there dommination is obvious


ash

Post 51 of 238

HD DVD will be the future

by minzawaung - 2/6/07 10:13 PM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett Moderator

I am a beleiver that HD DVD will be the winner

Post 52 of 238

and you sir, are wrong

by CobNat - 2/7/07 11:47 AM In reply to: HD DVD will be the future by minzawaung

when trying to explain the difference between Blu-Ray and HD to non techie friends, which most of the US is, the conversation goes something like this:
HD DVD is supported by Toshiba and does blah blah blah and BluRay is supported by Sony, Universal, Apple, etc and blah blah blah

So BluRay is HD

Well, yes but HD DVD is it' own format and won't work on Blu-Ray players and Vice Versa

Well I want HD DVD's so I need to get a Blu-Ray player, thanks (walks off to buy a Sony Blu-Ray DVD player)

It's too generic and people will not be able to differentiate. When they put their HD DVD's into the BluRay player they will swear them off forever. Gotta love the general public!

Post 53 of 238

The DVD 'war'

by e3954 - 2/6/07 10:20 PM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett Moderator

I've grown out of the home theater thing and seldom watch movies at home anymore. I used to look forward to getting a new film from time to time, but I have found other things to do with my spare time. Besides, I can't see any advantage in buying again what I've already seen enough of; i.e. the movies I already have which are sure to be re-released in whatever format is chosen. It's like TV: Ten or two hundred channels, it's just more of the same stuff (expletive omitted). This whole thing is a marketing exercise to sell more of the things we really don't need.

Post 54 of 238

Blu-Ray Rules all

by gamer1489 - 2/6/07 10:28 PM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett Moderator

I'm just gonna come out and say it: I hate Sony. I hope they die with all of their overpriced crap, minus the headphones. Now. Blu-Ray will win because it has a higher storage capacity: 30GB per disc. For any video enthusiast, even on basic DVD formats, more people will gravitate toward the capcity of Blu-Ray over HD-DVD's 15GB. The only way that HD-DVD can compete is by having it's writers and players become faster in a shorter amount of time. Personally, I'll stick to conventional DVDs and an upconverting DVD player because they are MUCH better investments.

Post 55 of 238

hd-dvd will win

by Dave600000 - 2/6/07 10:29 PM In reply to: Who do you predict will win the HD format war? by Marc Bennett Moderator

just like vhs vs beta the format war will be decided by porn. hd-dvd has the backing of porn industry. blu ray is the better technology in my opinion but porn has decided the winner and that is hd-dvd.

Post 56 of 238

In the long run, they will both lose.

by Krackcode - 2/6/07 10:41 PM In reply to: hd-dvd will win by Dave600000

Within the next 3-5 years, with the breakthroughs with Moore's Law, you will more then likely be able to store a terrabyte on a single micro flash drive or microSD card. Some of the breakthroughes they have announced are astonishing...and that's just what isn't top secret.

The media world is in for some really "gigantically tiny" changes that are going to cram data into spaces so small, they will have to restructure the whole "nanometer" standard for chipset size.

I realize this topic is crossing two lines, but the technology being developed affects all aspects of technology. And when it comes to storage, getting more in less of a space is always a desirable outcome.

Post 57 of 238

Ack forgot something...*sigh*

by Krackcode - 2/6/07 10:46 PM In reply to: In the long run, they will both lose. by Krackcode

ACK...totally forgot when I started geek speaking about moore's law...

But anyways, the future is in either a really, really small portable chips/drive with tons of space. Or it will all be streamed wirelessly directly from the net or wireless access points from throughout the city. (I know where I live, they are converting the entire city into a wireless hub. No matter where you are, stopped at a light, in the tacobell drive thru, you will have wireless access.


It's certainly going to be vwery interesting to see what comes next. I wish I could live a thousand years, if only to blow my mind whenever a new technology is introduced to the world!

Post 58 of 238

Well, you're half right...

by jrdinger - 2/7/07 6:20 AM In reply to: Ack forgot something...*sigh* by Krackcode

I think what would blow your mind is that one thousand years from now, consumers will be debating a new home movie format.

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

Post 59 of 238

Porn supports a lot of technology

by a155mm - 2/6/07 11:01 PM In reply to: hd-dvd will win by Dave600000

The first tapes rented in large numbers were X rated and usually rented by suburban couples (Time Magazine 1981)HD DVD will probably get the same treatment even with Sony's investment in Hollywood. X rated web sites carried the Web a long way for years.

That being said, the DVDs I watch now come with more discussion, deleted scenes and other minutiae than I will ever watch. There is also the question of image quality. Exactly at what point does the human eye stop processing more than so many pixels and colors?

It's like the old stereo days when people would argue over the frequency response of speakers when no one could hear that high or low anyway. The industry tried four channel stereo to sell more equipment but that faded quickly. In the last 15 years we've seen "home theater" arrive with all of it's expenses but it has never lived up to the original hype.

Whether it's HD, Blu Ray or chocolate covered disks, the consumer has gotten a lot more savvy about plunking down more money for a product that is only marginally better than it's predecessor. Until someone comes up with a cheap, functional Holodeck, a $150.00 DVD player will be just fine

Post 60 of 238

Porn means notingg..

by Alegoo92 - 2/7/07 11:54 AM In reply to: hd-dvd will win by Dave600000

Porn means so little in this "war". Because the decider is which version gets more sales: and no matter how big the porn industry seems, its infantismal in the light of regular consumer buying at a Wal-Mart or BlockBuster.

And this is why HD-DVD's will win.. because the consumers are aware of both parts of the name "HD.. and I have an HD-TV, and this is in the DVD format...." When Bluray arises to non techies, nothing comes to mind...

So lets say there were two shelves, one with HD-DVD versions of POTC 2 and one with Bluray versions of the same movie: I guarentee you HD-DVD box would empty significantly before Bluray would. And the more money Toshiba makes on the disc the less likely it is that theyll leave the market.

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