Community weekly poll: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to...
- 2/1/07 5:02 PM
Simple Upgrade...Really!
by ShutEyeThinkin - 2/2/07 5:14 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Do nothing! I have a Dell XPS (gen 1) that was purchased 2/2004...Vista upgraded without a hitch. Thank you, Dell, and thank you Microsoft. Come on, 90% of us will be running it in a year or so. Absolutely the smoothest upgrade ever.
Absurd. How much Microsoft Stock do you own?
by Paul3637 - 2/2/07 7:12 AM In reply to: Simple Upgrade...Really! by ShutEyeThinkinUnless you paid $3,000 or so for your XPS or already upgraded to a dual core processor - or just plain love downloading new drivers and software - I cannot imagine you had less trouble than I would have. I have an 8 month old DELL E510 with the fastest processor available on that model at the time (Intel 650) 3.4 GHZ, 2GB RAM, 256MB upgraded premium graphics card, etc. The upgrade advisor says I have the hardware to upgrade to VISTA Home Premium with AERO but look what it says about my software (so $150 for VISTA upgrade and how many $$$ to fix all this and for what?):
Software Components Your Computer Recommended Upgrades
Device Driver RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory A Windows Vista driver is available for this device. Dell recommends you download the latest driver from http://support.dell.com. Separate charges may apply.
Device Driver RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory Secondary A Windows Vista driver is available for this device. Dell recommends you download the latest driver from http://support.dell.com. Separate charges may apply.
Device Driver Intel(R) 82801GB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF A Windows Vista driver is available for this device. Dell recommends you download the latest driver from http://support.dell.com. Separate charges may apply.
Device Driver Intel(R) 82801GB Serial ATA Storage Controllers - 27C0 A Windows Vista driver is available for this device. Dell recommends you download the latest driver from http://support.dell.com. Separate charges may apply.
Device Driver SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC A Windows Vista driver is available for this device. Dell recommends you download the latest driver from http://support.dell.com. Separate charges may apply.
Device Driver Conexant D850 56K V.9x DFVc Modem A Windows Vista driver is available for this device. Dell recommends you download the latest driver from http://support.dell.com. Separate charges may apply.
Application Loaded NetWaiting This software may not run under Windows Vista, Dell recommends that you contact the vendor of this software for an upgrade, if available.
Application Loaded Dell CinePlayer This DVD playback software will not work in Windows Vista and must be uninstalled before upgrading to Windows Vista. Depending on the version of Windows Vista you purchase, you may need to purchase an upgrade to your DVD playback software. If you purchase Windows Vista Home Basic or Windows Vista Business and want DVD playback you will need to purchase an upgrade for your DVD software from your DVD playback vendor, if available. If you purchase Windows Vista Home Premium or Windows Vista Ultimate, these versions of Windows Vista will contain integrated support for playing DVDs.
Application Loaded Sound Blaster Audigy ADVANCED MB This software may not run under Windows Vista, Dell recommends that you contact the vendor of this software for an upgrade, if available.
Application Loaded Dell Support 3.1 This software may not run under Windows Vista, Dell recommends that you go to http://support.dell.com for an upgrade, if available.
Application Loaded Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 12 This version of antivirus software is not compatible with Windows Vista. Before upgrading to Windows Vista you will need to upgrade to a Windows Vista compatible version of antivirus software (if available from the vendor), or uninstall the current version.
Application Loaded Modem Helper This software may not run under Windows Vista, Dell recommends that you contact the vendor of this software for an upgrade, if available.
Application Loaded Sonic Encoders This software may not run under Windows Vista, Dell recommends that you contact the vendor of this software for an upgrade, if available.
Application Loaded Roxio RecordNow Audio This software may not run under Windows Vista, Dell recommends that you contact the vendor of this software for an upgrade, if available.
Application Loaded Digital Line Detect This software may not run under Windows Vista, Dell recommends that you contact the vendor of this software for an upgrade, if available.
For a complete list of software components and recommended upgrades, contact your software vendor.
oh on the contrary...
by techfreack - 2/5/07 3:33 PM In reply to: Simple Upgrade...Really! by ShutEyeThinkinhistory just may repeat itself as in the 80's, and apple will be back at the top. This time Gates the greedy money man. like others said, if they stop being so stubborn about their prices and keep good solid products like they are, they can be a hit. vista was a rip-off of OSX. Maybe leopard and a line of new products or freshened products with more compatibility will really turn the worlds majority of user systems in the time to come. As it is apple sales are soaring, not to mention their stock.
I totally agree, Vista is a simple upgrade
by Ozzie - 2/23/07 8:07 PM In reply to: Simple Upgrade...Really! by ShutEyeThinkinI have a homemade machine running an Intel X6800, ASUS Motherboard, XFX GX2 Video card, 2 gb of overclocked RAM and Windows XP Pro. I just upgraded to Vista Ultimate using the full version and had no problems whatsoever during the upgrade process. I had to upgrade certain drivers [(Soundblaster driver for X-Fi(this was a must) and the Nvidia driver(Half Life 2 worked fine before upgrading but DOOM 3 had an open GL issue which was fixed by the new driver)]; I also had to install the new version of Trend Micro (the update was free as I was already a subscriber). All my games are working great and two Internet Speed Tests show that my internet speed has not been impacted at all. I also upgraded Office 2003 Pro to Office 2007 Pro with no problem whatsoever. I am finding that Vista has a lot of useful features which just pop up at times, including offering to modify certain programs to conform more with Vista. While I admit to being a sucker for buying the latest when it comes to computers, I am not at all disappointed with Vista Ultimate. The only problem I have had is that certain programs I have by Ascentive do not work with Vista and Ascentive has informed me that it does not intend to patch or update their software until sometime in the future. This is not Microsoft's problem and, being an early adopter of new technology, I was prepared for things like this to crop up. Bottom line, while switching to Vista takes a little time, doing research first on hardware/program/driver compatiblity and availablity of updates and patches makes the process much easier. I do not presume, however, that everyone will have an equally easy time switching to Vista as all computers are different in terms of software, hardware, registry keys etc. If I did not have the latest hardware and software I likely would have waited until I built a new machine to install Vista. I am, however, getting tired of all the negativity people are spewing about Vista. While it is not an earth-shattering change from XP SP2, Vista offers a lot of nice new features and I personally like it more than XP. Vista seems cleaner and more intuitive. I have used every version of Windows ever made (I still recall working on DOS based machines - programming with basic and fortran - and how floored we all were when Windows first hit the market). The first version was not flashy and was on monochrome screens but for the first time a computer user could organize programs for use in a relatively simple way. Each new version or Windows, with the exception of ME (just my opinion) has improved upon the previous version, in some cases more than others. In the case of Vista some of these improvments are obvious and others are designed to provide additional protection, simplier internet access and other items which users might not be able see with the naked eye but are nevertheless there. All the talk about Apple's operating system being so much easier to use and more secure have likely not yet installed Vista (besides the Home version) and forget that the vast majority of PCs run Windows and there are simply orders of magnitude more system abusers and lowlifes out there trying to mess up Windows as the pool of Apples to infect is much lower. Well as usual I am rambling when all I wanted to say was that I had a positive experience upgrading to Windows Vista. Sorry for getting so long-winded but hopefully some of my PERSONAL opinions and experiences with Vista might help a few people (I wish I had read about some positive experiences from people with similar hardware before upgrading as I would not have worried so much beforehand - instead, for the most part, all I could find was Vista bashing by people who for the most part had not even given it a try.) As for the "affordablity" argument, this just does not fly given E-Bay and similar sites. Finally a last bit of advice, I would personally stick to the 32 bit version of Vista as opposed to the 64-bit. A few months ago when I upgraded my motherboard from AMD (with an FX-57) to the Intel X6800 I did a clean install of Windows XP 64-bit. It was a disaster. Not only are drivers not available, even for brand new hardware like printers and digital camaras, a lot of my software would not install due to incompatibility with Windows XP 64-bit. From what I have read most software vendors have not been enthusiatic about re-writing their code to conform to Windows 64-bit and I still do not see many new 64-bit drivers written, at least for the hardware I am concerned with. GOOD LUCK AND I HOPE SOME SMALL PORTION OF THIS RAMBLING HAS HELPED SOMEONE!! p.s. I do not work for or shill for Microsoft as is the typical attack posted by anyone who gets upset with anything positive written about Vista. Additionally, this post is relavant because there are a lot of early adopters of new technology out there.
No Microsoft Vista right now
by adhocsol - 2/2/07 5:54 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I maybe Vista ready, however I will be waiting into later to upgrade. From what I am hearing and what I have read so far does not make me feel like i really need it or really want the program at this time.
Why I won't be upgrading to Vista anytime soon...
by BillyT2003 - 2/2/07 5:56 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Although I have a PC that could easily run Windows Vista, there will be no Vista upgrade in my future for these reasons:
1. The Vista upgrade package will invaidate the Windows XP license I already own, thus not even allowing me to use that license on another machine in my household and though I could also easily afford to buy a full version, I feel that Microsoft has priced them too high and I don't consider what I'd be getting in Vista a good value at the prices that Microsoft wants. My current Windows XP operating system runs very well on my machine as it is.
2. On my current PC, I run Microsoft Windows Professional x64 Bit Edition. I want the 64-bit edition because I'm a software developer and I am in the midst of developing a 64-bit client to the applications which we sell where I work. So, naturally I'd want the x64 Bit version of Vista as well. However, with limited driver availablility and what not, I don't really want to put the time in to getting it running. So, I'll hold out for as long as it takes until both the prices go down on Vista and third-party 64-bit drivers are more plentiful.
Can't see the Vista
by yarlq - 2/2/07 6:20 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Just reinstalled XP - and downloaded 62 'urgent' updates. How long has XP been thrashing around? 5 years and it's still as holey as a sieve. Installation required my continual presence and input for an hour. Adding back my apps and updates: four more hours.
Same time I installed Xandros Linux to dual boot - the unattended install took 17 minutes and then it called home for 30 seconds for updates. Done. Ready to work.
The 17-minute install included auto-installing Open Office, Gimp and a couple dozen other handy programs - well over $2,000 of software at PC prices ... free for the asking in LinuxLand.
Will I spend $400 for a leaky, creaky XP upgrade, and another $600 for the 'new and improved' MS Office, and another $700 for Photoshop PLUS all the fees for antivirus and spybot protection PLUS updating everything all the time? Not bloody likely.
My Linux is firewalled and Bit Defender has a lovely free antivirus program - both of which update automatically -if it's ever necessary- without rebooting.
Also installed Ubuntu on a friend's 5-year old Vaio that had slowed to a crawl and filled its disk to overflowing. Same results - a 15-minute unintended install complete with Office and Gimp, 60% of the hard disk reclaimed and a machine that is VDQ (very damn quick).
And no more update hassles.
Hasta la by-bye, Vista. It's time to ride out of town, the new kid is of age and a faster, better draw.
No Vista here
by i,Jimbot - 2/2/07 6:52 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I'm running Mac OS X on a 24 inch iMac. No problems. Ever. I have used Microsoft Windows since its inception, and I find no reason to go to an inferior operating system. "Everyone else uses it." is not a reason; it just means you're not making your own decisions, but following the flock instead. Good luck to those that continue.
No problem upgrade!
by mikemcw - 2/2/07 6:54 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I upgraded from XP to Vista with absolutely no problems beyond minor device driver updates.
2.8 GHz Pentium 4 HT
1G Ram
Radeon 1650 (512M with AGP)
Tons of other peripherals
I built this computer about 2-3 years ago and just recently upgraded the video card.
My overall Vista score was 4.0 because of the processor speed.
Vista feels familiar and looks great. Very stable, no crashes yet. I've been able to sync my Dell Axim, no problems, even using Bluetooth.
The only glitch so far is Itunes 7.0.2 does not want to play purchased music. Apple is aware of this issue and an updated Itunes should be out shortly.
I'm sure others people trying to upgrade did not have as good an experience as i did, but it's working great for me.
Mike
The considered Example:for OSs
by castingRod47 - 2/2/07 6:59 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I would use the word:Thread Safe....
This is your first thought about your PC..
In my estimation over the past year(having built a PC)..
and useing the Intel Product..Support..KB..Forums..
and then surfing the Internet for even more..
The new Vista OS should be this Quality-->>Thread Safe..
and all other software for your Projects should apply-->>Thread Safe..
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This would require the latest in CPU-->>instructions..
..
I have found this TERM:instructions:
The real Package of a CPU/along w/the FSB and the Duo Core Design..
You have the First Step..in Threading.
I run too many old applications.
by bobrenner - 2/2/07 7:10 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have XP and I run too many 'old' applications that work well at the present time. I was checking with my various applications and I would need to buy upgrades for about 90% of what I use on a regular basis. I also 'restore' donated PCs for donation and some sites check the OS and only download what is applicable.
No Vista amigo Bill!
by vbrookie - 2/2/07 7:15 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Since I have a relatively new notebook, Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 256 MB nVidia graphics, I think the system requirements are met, but I don’t think I’ll be upgrading my system to Vista anytime soon. Installing and using one of the (X)buntu got lot easier and, it will most likely run my system in the future.
No Vista for me
by paoconnell - 2/2/07 7:27 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I ran the Microsoft upgrade guide. While I can add more RAM to my laptop to meet Vista requirements, I can't upgrade my video controller (it's built into the motherboard). Besides, Vista doesn't really add much to a system already running Win XP, other than the Mac-like (and, I suspect, slow) Aero interface.
No Vista for me!
by vitasx - 2/2/07 7:33 AM In reply to: In order for me to upgrade to Vista, I will have to... by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
i have 250gb+300gb and AMD Barton 3200+ based system it was runing Vista beta3 fine and the only thing i liked was chess game. My XP runs better and looks better (i use some tuning soft) Microsoft is not evolving but devolving tryed IE7 went back to IE6 if not older IE than firefox or opera i will use (both firefox and opera are present on my system) WMP11 also aren't plying all files the ones that WMP10 plays fine. and about Vista's all those hidden restrictions on playing music videos or other content is like saying come and buy useless software.
i tryed Linux and liked it. if most software and games were compatible with it than it would be good bye Microsoft
No Vista for Me????
by kissfru - 2/2/07 8:32 AM In reply to: No Vista for me! by vitasxwell of course i run windows software...i mean i gujet it for free...(not saying who, what , where ,when or why)...but i happenb to get it for free. lets just say that i have a wealthy girlfriend, ok? but put up against a wall and choose between the two? iof course i'd go with windows. linux is command line operated and its a pain in the proverbial butt to find drivers for the things i like to do for it, and now with the forefront of vista approching and evern moreso a 64 bit environment vista is the easy hands down winner in my book, so i will gladly run it. and no, i did not say that i use hacked versions of anything. vista is a late christmas gift from my girlfriend. so i'll use it...why not?
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