Community weekly poll: Will you be installing Windows Vista?
- 1/30/07 4:24 PM
MS Vista - means?
by drjoedj - 1/31/07 1:23 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I'am a retired Electronic tech. Computer Systems Analist 37yrs. I grew up with computers, i was born in 1947 alonge with the first electro-mecheical tube and relay cpu. Yes,Sonny,I had to learn tube logic, read binary, octal,hex and gray codes from flashing lites, the care and feeding of iron core memories and kept up with NEW AND IMPROVED systems for the last 38yrs. but the one thing that has not changed is the meaning of MS.
lets break this code down:
Vista means "panoramic view"
MS means "more s**t"
You want a bigger view of more s**t buy Vista MS.
If you got extra money you just gotta get rid of, please send it to me.You know how it is with us old techs we need new hard drives or viagra. I can't afford to give any more to little Billie Gates.
50/50
by Axiomatic13 - 1/31/07 2:30 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I will not be installing Vista on my personal home units. But I am running it on my new HP dv9000t laptop and I'm not really impressed. I get a 4.7 on the silly Vista experience score and the OS still feels like its sluggish. (vid card is a nVidia 7600 w/ 512mb vid ram)
MS left out all of the good things Vista had to offer. I hear those things like WinFS will be available in SP1. Maybe I'll re-evaluate then.
One thing I don't like: DRM
This one item could be a deal breaker for me. Punish the criminals don't inconvenience your paying customers. MS you have more money than the content owners, why are you bowing to their pressure? On top of that, there is a HD-DVD player in my laptop and the DRM related services are eating up a constant 80% of both cpu's (Intel Core 2 Duo).
Sorry, no thanks.
Windows Vista
by buddywinni - 1/31/07 2:46 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
Hi everybody.
My name is Wayne from Montreal Canada Quebec
My comments pertainning Windows Vista.From what I have been hearring from the medias about Win Vista & espacially on TV, Vista is not what most Microsoft users were expecting from the new software. Yes, to the improved estetics of vista but pertainning to the extra security, we actually are upgrading our service pack2 of XP for those who are using XP, to sp3.I personnally am running XP Pro & am very satisfied with it & upgradding to vista would be to paying for a service pack3 at a cost of arround $200.oo smackers, instead of getting a free sevice pack update! Am realy deceived that Mr. Bill Gate has changed the name of XP Pro to Windows Vista just to pocket $200.oo bucks! A multi billionnaire but still wants more. One can easily purchase ZoneAlarm's Internet Security Suite for $50.oo & get a 100% security protection on his PC & Web brousing for a one year subscription. That's it about my personnal oppinion. Am sticking to XP pro for as long as Microsoft will continue to give me my XP Pro security updates from the Internet. Take care evry one & may the all mighty bless you all.
Vista? Why spend money on another attempted fix?
by Confidential Sage - 1/31/07 4:52 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I will not be buying or installing Vista until Win98 and WinXP Pro have gotten so out of date that I cannot websurf or play games online or off. I have been buying these new OS's ever since the days of basic programming and Gates has yet to get it right without constant bugs and security holes. I truly feel that he owes every one of us a refund for all of the time we have spent trying to make his Operating Software work the way he has promised over and over again that it will. I see no advantage to buying Vista. It is expensive, still is not a finished product, and seems to offer even less customer operability than WinXP Pro! I also have grave concerns about how it will treat other purveyors of software, especially when it comes to gaming. The stringent requirements of Vista for new hardware for most machines over a year old, just to be able to run Vista, along with no guarantee that the software will work after meeting the requirements that Microsoft's own detection software tells you will be needed are a turnoff from the word go for me. If you cannot make a decent software that does not require constant updates and service packs, why in the world would I want to go invest a few hundred dollars in that software and then spend several hundred more in memory, drives of all kinds, possibly peripherals, and maybe even a motherboard and chip upgrade? Start putting some guarantees on your product and prove to me that it works. If anything else I owned worked as erratically as Microsoft software, by state law, I could return it as a 'lemon'! Why does Microsoft software get away with selling their product, with no liabilities, and then get to blame it all on your or my hardware, and then get away with failing to even tell me what hardware is at fault? If it was not a fact that 95% of the gaming software for PC's is made to run on Microsoft OS's, I would indeed find another operating system and never buy another Microsoft product. As is, I am caught between a rock and a hard place, so I suffer along for as long as I can without spending more money on supposedly 'improved' software, that has not shown me anything that I need or want, but I am bound to buy it sooner or later, because it is the only game in town and they have built in obsolescence by discontinuing support for the previous operating systems that I owned.
Vista Installation?
by LynneM - 1/31/07 5:37 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I will stick with what I have right now at least until I can learn Linux and then I am getting out of windows - for good! I'm tired of the promises that are not kept and the cost for both the program and the machine to run it is outrageous.
Vista not wanted here
by CalicoTude - 1/31/07 6:02 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
Not only do I not want Micro$oft's latest Big Brother excuse for an operating system (am running XP Pro/SP2 on my Windoze box, and that's going to be it for awhile), even if I did, it would cost me over $500 .. not only would I need one of the fancier versions to do some programming, but I would either need a new computer or would have to overhaul my homebuilt (3 years old) .... both my 'puters run their current OS's very well, thank you -- but they would not have enough for Vista's hoggish demands.
In a few months.
by YoheBear - 1/31/07 6:08 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
I'll probably buy both Vista Business/Ultimate edition and Office 2007 as upgrades when I see a substantial discount from a legitimate source. But...I'll wait a few months, probably 3-4, before installing Vista. As I did for Windows 98, I'll wait for SP1 to be released before installing it on my machine. My machine is much too valuable to have to deal with hardware/software malfunctions because they are not Vista compatible. "Bleeding edge" technology is fine when you have a second machine to fall back on; but, when you have only one machine, it is too risky. Besides, try getting free tech support for hardware/software that doesn't work with Vista. Good luck. I don't want or need the aggravation and hassle.
No Vista for me!!! I'll save my money.
by m coste - 1/31/07 6:35 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
Alright, I'll admit to going to windowsME from win98 se. That was a waste of money. Then on to winxp with patch after patch.
I am an avid upgrader to my home-built computers. If i change something that MS doesn't like, I have to go grovelling to them to "reactivate" my winxp. Why spend $200.00 to do that when XP is already doing it for free.
I refuse to surrender my hard earned $$$$ to Bill Gates for something
I won't need for a long long time. Sorry Microsoft you are out of luck, you fooled me once. Not any more!!!!
By the way, If I ever buy Vista, who will really own it? Me or Microsoft? Can anybody answer this?
No Vista on my PC or Notebook
by Chas. - 1/31/07 6:36 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
MS must think they see STUPID engraved on our foreheads. I Ran the check to see if Vista would run on my PC and notebook. They must be getting a cut from the parts guys. They tell me you can run Vista OK on the desk top but you should think about doing some minor upgrades and by thye way you will need a new scanner. The Toshiba notebook that I bought a few months ago will be OK except some of the software that is OK for XP may have a problem.
I'd have to say...
by matt 5112 - 1/31/07 7:25 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
It slows down games so for me theres no advantage plus MS O/S's have always been buggy. Therefore i'll be waiting till the price for ultimate drops to $200 CAD. Currently i can get a copy for $270 canadian but $200 seems more approperiate.
Well Let's See, Duh
by bravexrt - 1/31/07 8:04 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
It has to add up. Spending bigger bucks on security that cost more than what I already have free plus $75 for a complete Zone Alarm Suite, doesn't add up. You'd have to want a new look pretty bad to spend that kind of money.
No, but will buy preinstalled
by Ed-duh-win - 1/31/07 9:18 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
No, I do not have it yet. But I will buy it preinstalled within the next two years. I had Vista Beta 2 and RC1 and I could not use it because of wireless driver issues. I hope it is resolved by the time I lay my hands on a Vista.
I got Office 2007 already. I'm impressed. The new interface does need some getting used to but its a very polished program, much better than Corel or Apple's Appleworks.
I honestly don't believe the viewpoint in the column. Most people can agree that those who bash Windows in general and Windows Vista are connected to Apple in some ways - like those who accused Vista of stealing some of OS X Tiger's features when in fact, Vista had it since the "Longhorn" stage which was way before the release of Tiger. I'm not saying Robert is collaborating with Apple but really, everything in Vista has been overhauled compared to XP - Wikipedia and even CNET said that previously. There is nothing that was carried over from XP.
You are suggesting
by Claptrap - 2/2/07 8:54 PM In reply to: No, but will buy preinstalled by Ed-duh-winthat everybody who doesn't like Vista is connected with Apple. But if you read the posts, you will find that most of us use Windows and STILL hate Microsoft. Why? Because of the Microsoft has become too greedy and too big for its boots: a bully which doesn't care about its customers, because they know people are trapped. And why is that?
There are more programs written for Windows system than for Apple. Most schools and businesses use it so it is easier to use the same OS at home for compatibility. After having chosen your platform, bought and installed hardware and software and created a few vital documents, you cannot just go and change it - and loose all your work. So you grit your teeth and go with upgrades when you cannot avoid it any longer. As you learned Windows at school and then used it as an employee, the natural progress is for you to choose it (because you know how to use it already) as your OS when it's your turn to become the manager ... And so it goes on. Meanwhile, Apple machines are more expensive and you have only limited choice of software compared to PCs. (I did try to use Apple once and personally I found it so difficult that for a long time I was contemplating of buying Mac JUST to practice using it, so I can join image editing evening classes at my college...)
I might be slightly interested in the technology that makes the computers tick, but I still want a computer that works straight out of a box, just like a Radio. Instead of tuning for stations and saving them as pre-sets, I would install my personal software I already have, and from then on I should be able use it without any hickups, nagging screens, registrations, DRM, security issues and all those annoying issues we have learned to expect from Microsoft. PC was essentially created as a productivity TOOL, not a flashy gadget and I want it to stay that way: I DON'T CARE about pretty backgrounds and transparent windows (ugh). All I want is to switch it on, choose a task and get on with it, without worrying about the things that go in the background or having to aquire a plethora of time consuming safety and maintenance programs to secure my computer.
I would love to switch from Windows, not because I haven't got a stable system (My Win98SE is very stable, maybe because of what I do with it) but because I don't like the bully boy tactics of Microsoft and over-pricing. However, because of my lack of technical ability of system configuration and command line, I'm stuck with Windows, even if I didn't need to use it at college - it still is easiest to use (for me). (No, Neither Bill Gates or Steve Jobbs came with the idea of Windows: they had already been invented)
Why doesn't Microsoft re-do the XP but spend more time to iron out the rest of the bugs and improve security and leave Vista for Gamers and high end users, with prices to match? Migrating from XP to XP2 would call for greatly reduced upgrade price. I recon the first option is what most people want from their PCs as there are dedicated gaming machines that do their specialised job well enough (I've got a feeling, Direct X will be in next generation of X-box if it isn't implememted in 360 already.)
Solution
by Ed-duh-win - 2/3/07 1:27 PM In reply to: You are suggesting by ClaptrapOne word solution for you: Linux.
Note: By connected to Apple I mean not employees and such, but fanboys. Most of them.
If you want to open documents created in Microsoft Office - there's the Office:Mac for Mac OS X. You can open Word, Excel and PowerPoint documents on it.
It's too bad that you don't really care about the flashy backgrounds, nice interface and such...because that's what makes Mac OS X fanboys stare at their Macs all day along. Guess what - its rumoured that Apple will go with black themed OS at some point in OS X's life. All three major OS makers are putting on prettier faces on their GUI because it puts them one step beyond their competition.
You tell me Windows are overpriced. Check the prices out: OS X Tiger, $149. Vista Home Premium, $199CAD! So that works to about $149US as well...those are for upgrade installs. Of course, Linux is free 
This is a misconception shared by perhaps 90% of the people here: Vista is not necessarily for high-end gaming! It was created with easier gaming in mind alongside easier management for multimedia! Mac OS X comes preinstalled with iTunes, iMovie and others beginning with an "i" - those are multimedia tools - meaning OS X comes with those like in Vista. I don't hear people complaining why Apple has to include multimedia tools when not everyone uses them?
By the way, SP2 is a free download from Microsoft.
Not until I buy another computer and it comes with Vista
by dabhome - 1/31/07 9:32 PM In reply to: Will you be installing Windows Vista? by Marc Bennett
There are very few reasons to upgrade to Vista. And the one I know about is not available yet (CableCard compatible Media Center).
Here are some of the reasons I will not be upgrading:
1.Requires more hardware
2.Requires upgraded applications
3.Provides very little if any more security. In fact, because it is new it probably provides less security.
Just say NO!
David
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