Buzz Out Loud Lounge: I can find a PS3 but not a Nunchuck?
LOL, gimped?
by Anna Beaulieu - 1/5/07 8:03 AM In reply to: Yeah, but... by hawaii5_oPS3 a gimped system??? Where are you getting your information from? I guess I have yet to see how my PS3 is "gimped." It's a better system than the xbox 360 in virtually all aspects, hardware, appearance, even the controllers are better than xbox 360.
MS had a full year to release games and despite that time advantage, they only now offer a game worthy to buy the console for (Gears of War.) I had all three last generation consoles and finally broke down and bought the xbox last (for Fable) and shortly thereafter sold the thing on ebay. I've played several games (Perfect Dark Zero included) on my buddy's xbox 360 and I'm unimpressed.
I'm no Sony fanboy so if they fail to release good titles, the PS3 won't sell well, but it's not like MS has offered anything great either. Assassin's Creed, Devil May Cry 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, etc. all look like fantastic games available for the PS3 this year. Follow that with Final Fantasy 13, Gran Turismo 5, and more and I think it's pretty clear who will dominate game sales.
All this despite the fact that for awhile at least, Nintendo will dominate game sales with Zelda TP, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, etc. I think this lead will eventually fade though. Keep in mind that the best selling electronics device this year was HD LCD Televisions. As fun as the Wii is, the graphics are shameful compared to the PS3 and eventually people will want the HD. As crappy as "Genji: Days of the Blade" is, it looks amazing on my nice LCD.
Thing is...
by hawaii5_o - 1/6/07 7:17 AM In reply to: LOL, gimped? by Anna BeaulieuWhen it's all said and done a console is only as good as it's games. PS3 doesn't have the games right now to justify the $600.
Plus, they are still buggy, not backwards compatible with some key games from PS1 and PS2, their online game download thing sucks compared to the Virtual Console on the Wii, the bluetooth controllers lose connection sporatically (I know, I know, yours are the only ones that don't), the motion sensing gameplay (a.k.a. "We can do that Wii thing too!") is a joke.
The Blu-Ray argument doesn't hold up because the format war isn't even close to declaring a winner, and from the looks of it, Blu-Ray probably won't win.
Maybe the PS3 will be worth it down the road (like when they lower the price) but it's not worth it at the moment.
Orly?
by Anna Beaulieu - 1/6/07 7:14 PM In reply to: Thing is... by hawaii5_o"Blu-Ray probably won't win."
What evidence do you have to support that? I'm curious.
"the bluetooth controllers lose connection sporatically (I know, I know, yours are the only ones that don't)"
I've never had the controllers lose connection during gameplay (several hours of Resistance: Fall of Man playing included.) I've had the controller disconnect only when I haven't used it for some time, the auto-shutoff feature I guess. As far as the sixaxis functionality, it's there for developers to use. Just because launch games aren't taking advantage of it doesn't mean it's inferior. The Wii controller design is cool, and was centered around the motion sensing capability from the beginning, and of course launch games were focused on taking advantage of that. In the future you'll see titles using that functionality on the PS3, but it's not centered on that technology. The traditional PS controller design is still there because that's what people like.
On my big screen LCD, nothing looks as cool as HDTV and HD gaming. Zelda TP is very cool, but eventually that will wear off and people will want HD games. Yes, the PS3 is priced rediculously high for a game console, but that was Sony's decision based on the inclusion of the blue-ray drive. It's priced too high for a game console, but it's priced super cheap for a blue ray movie player. The games look great, and the movies are awesome. If they drop the price in the next two years, this will definitely be "the" console. I love nintendo, and have defended them in the past, but I think the wii will eventually reach the end of the road.
I got a HDTV myself, but Wii looks just as good.
by PinoyGuy_88 - 1/6/07 8:40 PM In reply to: Orly? by Anna BeaulieuI'd rather enjoy my games regardless of the graphics, than to nitpick every 5 seconds on why my games look crap on a high-definition television.
Graphics smaphics!
by vector313 - 1/8/07 6:11 AM In reply to: Orly? by Anna BeaulieuThat's a bunch of bs about HD games vs. gameplay. I know many many people who would rather play Tecmo Bowl on an origninal NES than play Madden 07 on an Xbox just because the game is just flat out a better game to play. I'd still play Ring King before Fight Night just because its more fun (although Fight Night 3 is still a great game) Point is, gameplay will always trump a pretty screen, no matter what.
For a limited time
by Anna Beaulieu - 1/8/07 10:56 AM In reply to: Graphics smaphics! by vector313For a limited time you would play the older original NES title. However what you're suggesting is that older titles are better than newer titles, and for a time this will be the case (as it is with just about all new system launches.) However, once the "gotta have" HD titles start rolling in, people will want the HD games, it's that simple. You can count on Nintendo to produce great games only for the Wii, however big names like Ubisoft, EA, Rockstar, Capcom, Konami, etc. will port their games for the different consoles and I'm sorry, but many of these won't make it to the Wii because of the inferior graphics. Assassin's Creed will probably be the first title where people will start to take notice of the difference. Available on both 360 and PS3, but not Wii.
So yes, for a limited time people will prefer Zelda TP, Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Party, etc. until the real titles start coming out on the other consoles. That's where the Wii will become the: "I play this when I want to play old-school games" console.
Flawed
by hawaii5_o - 1/8/07 4:27 PM In reply to: Orly? by Anna Beaulieu"Zelda TP is very cool, but eventually that will wear off and people will want HD games"
It's all about games, not graphics. Anyone who knows anything about consoles knows that games like 007: Goldeneye, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 3, Out Of This World, Tekken, Twisted Metal 2 etc. are great games regardless of graphics, and people still play those games, not for nostalgia, but because they are fantastic games.
If Zelda TP, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Party all turn out to be great games, then, no they won't fade out. They will always be great games no matter how much the flavor of the month console looks better.
;-)
by Anna Beaulieu - 1/8/07 9:38 PM In reply to: Flawed by hawaii5_o"If Zelda TP, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Party all turn out to be great games, then, no they won't fade out. They will always be great games no matter how much the flavor of the month console looks better."
Game sales (post release) fall after a certain period of time. By your example, you're suggesting that you don't buy new games, you just play the same ones over and over again. I'm suggesting that after people have played and beaten the "gotta have" games on the Wii (which could be limited) they will still look for new titles. If the better games are on the HD machines, that's what people will buy.
Agreed...
by hawaii5_o - 1/9/07 5:05 PM In reply to: ;-) by Anna BeaulieuI agree. If the HD machines produce better games then that's what people will buy. But Nintendo produces better games then people will buy the Wii. Like I said before, it's all about games, not graphics.
My point was that the things we remember about systems passed are not graphics, but games.
I do play all the old great games, but I buy even more new games, if they are good.
Are you just grasping at ways to make an argument?
by matttx - 1/18/07 10:48 AM In reply to: Thing is... by hawaii5_o"...and from the looks of it, Blu-Ray probably won't win."
Whatever possibly led you to draw that conclusion. If anything, I've heard more in favor of Blu-Ray winning (porn industry, for example) to this point than I've heard HD-DVD. Regardless, there's no clear winner/loser at this point, certainly not even enough evidence to make such an absurd claim.
I found a Nunchuck!!!
by csliva11 - 1/17/07 11:13 AM In reply to: I can find a PS3 but not a Nunchuck? by csliva11Congratulate me on how awesome I am.
Went by Target yesterday to pick up a coat rack and I figured "what the hell, might as well look and see." And unfortunately they had none. 
Went by Target again today to pick up snack size chocolate chip granola bars (I'm a chocolate chip granola bar ***** by the way) and I figured again, "what the hell, can't hurt in looking." And by the grace of God, they had three Nunchucks there. I grabbed one and ran (I did pay for it by the way).
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