Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Thoughts on the iPhone?
people have to understand
by Ravensblood - 1/11/07 7:08 AM In reply to: Negatives are too great by howcleverGSM is the world standard. if apple is only going to make one version that is the logical choice.
In the US you have two major choices for GSM. Cingular and T-Mobile. Cingular has great service, T-mobile is questionable.
*IF* being the operative...
by robstak - 1/12/07 2:08 PM In reply to: people have to understand by Ravensblood...your arguement falls apart when someone asks why not just make it 3G compatible...
then you get into the sticky wicket of apple being cingular's bee-hotch. :P
uh
by Ravensblood - 1/13/07 10:22 AM In reply to: *IF* being the operative... by robstakmy argument has nothing to do with 3G. It is strictly regarding GSM, so it's solid.
but then you are ignoring an important detail, ya know?
by robstak - 1/14/07 11:13 AM In reply to: uh by RavensbloodI think the problem is that most people are looking at the iphone saying it should be the killer device that's better than anything else out there. At least that's what I originally thought it would be, and judging by the enldess posts by ppl here I think they at least thought the same at the beginning, so when it lacks a feature, especially the kind of feature thjat would allow its use on more than one carrier (kind of a biggie, say, to a verizon customer living in an area with poor cingular coverage), some ppl got disappointed.
The gist of what I got from you was that apple picked GSM cuz it works with the world and that is fine and therefore the iphone is still a great product. You don't care that its only GSM, but that's a big deal to other people.
I would agree with you in that for what it has to offer it's great, maybe even the best, but when you look at ALL the details, it has some shortcomings, that's all. hope i was clear.
And realize just how sad I am that I can't get one 
maybe I'm a little bitter.
-karl
just trying to create some balance and be reasonable
by Ravensblood - 1/14/07 12:18 PM In reply to: but then you are ignoring an important detail, ya know? by robstakno product can please 100%. there are enough people ripping on the iPhone, so I don't need to add to that. Most don't hang around to highlight the positives of it.
I want:
ichat (I am disappointed about that) or even better multi-platform chat app like Adium
3G (although right now I don't even have a data plan with my Treo 650 so that would be purely a luxury.)
agreed. slashdot had a good post on it today...
by robstak - 1/15/07 6:41 PM In reply to: just trying to create some balance and be reasonable by RavensbloodI dont have the link for me, but it was a trio of blogs that explained about 3G, and OSX rumors. Definately a good read. And definately in opposition to all the recent trashing of the poor iphone.
iphone
by lucky76 - 1/12/07 7:15 PM In reply to: Negatives are too great by howcleverI don't really care a big hoot, not impressed by Apple.
i agree
by DPRabon - 1/17/07 9:08 PM In reply to: Negatives are too great by howcleverI agree with you I wish it were available to Verizon. I don't like Cingular after these couple months are up I'm switching carriers. Cingular charges too much...
can you elaborate on "charges too much"?
by ackmondual - 1/17/07 9:25 PM In reply to: i agree by DPRabonBoth Cingular and VZ are shown w/unlim nites/wkends on individual plans:
450min for $40
900min for $60
Are you referring to hidden costs, customer service, or something else sinister?
So is a Lamborghini
by vector313 - 1/9/07 2:00 PM In reply to: Are you guys kidding me? by RavensbloodAnd a Bently Phantom too! But I ain't buying one.
Not exactly a Treo nor BB replacement
by ackmondual - 1/12/07 9:46 AM In reply to: Are you guys kidding me? by RavensbloodIt's moreso going vs stuff like the Motorola Q, and other multimedia/fun/WL cell phones. I believe this was mentioned on Cnet
If you build it, they will come.....
by ecovelli - 1/9/07 12:26 PM In reply to: Thoughts on the iPhone? by navsimpsonAll I can say is, buy Apple, Inc (no longer Apple Computer, Inc) stock now!!! This is a revolutionary product for them. Expensive? Yes it is, but this thing is going to sell like crazy.
Here is why-
1. Think of the 10 zillion products that support the IPOD, if this thing has an Ipod connector on the bottom, and the Iphone OS can support the existing accessories it will have more bits and waggles to plug in than any other phone on the market. EVER. Out of the box connectivity to cars, clocks, stereos, airplane seats, you name it!
2. It is user friendly for the average joe. As someone who has had a Blackberry and a Moto Q, neither one of those devices are very non-techie friendly. While it remains to be seen, it seems pretty simple to use. Plus push email from Yahoo and advanced SMS will make every teen in the US want this phone. Sure business users may not add it to the corporate purchasing list right away, but the 12 to 25 yr old crowd will be all over it.
3. Cost is really not too out of line with the market, $499 to 599 is a lot. But $499 for a Palm 700w/p is a lot too! $350 for a Sony Mylo is a lot considering it cant do most what the Iphone does. Flat out, I think that people will buy the Iphone and not blink at the price, its the one device youve always wanted, that works how you want it. Plus, you have 6 months to save up, 100 bucks a month, 3.50 a day.
TJ
Right On
by cbigbear - 1/12/07 7:24 AM In reply to: If you build it, they will come..... by ecovelliBuy Apple's stock now and it will pay for the phone.
Mine already did.
It's going to be a huge hit. If you don't think so you haven't seen the Keynote video. AWESOME doesn't even cover it.
the iPhone is not revolutionary let alone original
by ahgreen - 1/22/07 2:54 PM In reply to: If you build it, they will come..... by ecovelliGive Apple credit for marketing hype. Jobs claims the 'Revolutionary' Iphone is actually a 'Brilliant' phone! The truth is there is little that is original about this offering, including even the name which actually belongs to Cisco- several other vendors have implemented the concept for quite a while. E There have been smartphones from other companies, notably the in-this-case needlessly maligned Microsoft, which has been shipping comparable functionality for 3 years now.
My Cingular 2125 smartphone running Windows mobile 5.0 gives me seamless mail connectivity to corporate mail / contacts / calendar from Outlook, webmail (yahoo, gmail), browser (IE or Opera take your pick), media player (video, mp3), expandable memory via mini-SD, 1.3MP camera/camcorder, live traffic updates, mobile GSM via third party product. Heck I can even listen to NPR or any other internet radio via streaming - either via bluetooth or on built in speakerphone. I even have the multi-band GSM and Cingular Edge that Apple is touting out the box. And get this, it lasts my power usage for well over a day. The dispaly is bright and crisp. The phone is small - and drops comfortably in to my jeans pocket without even a bulge.
Its For all those Mac groupies, shed your blind faith in Apple's hype. Apple is no longer an upstart, but yet another big corporate which no doubt puts out decent products but nothing worth following over the edge of the cliff for. Suggest go eduate yourselves.
(Worth a read - Motorola CTO Padmasree Warrior's blog: http://blogs.motorola.com/author/padmasree-warrior )
Cheers,
Rik
Two, please! One for me and one for my wife!
by krorg - 1/9/07 12:28 PM In reply to: Thoughts on the iPhone? by navsimpsonPrice doesn't bother me at all. Looks like a fantastic device. I'll have one and I'll write it off!
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