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Do Gateway motherboards require a Gateway power supply?
by bigdaddya - 12/30/06 9:37 AMI have an intel pentium 4 2.88 GHz cpu (don't know which version, except it is not a celeron) which has tested good as it will boot and run windows xp in 3 different computers that I have tested it in. I bought an intel d865glc motherboard from ebay which came out of a gateway system, and which was advertised as being good. I figured this combination would work well together as the cpu had been in the same model of motherboard before but the first board had developed bad capacitors and died. However, the 2.8 processor/ gateway intel d865glc motherboard combo will not boot. All the fans start up, a green led glows on the motherboard and a red led on the motherboard flashes once and that's it. No video from the built in video nor from a pci or agp video card when installed. I heard that Dell computers use a proprietory power supply so a regular generic power supply won't work with their motherboards and I am wondering if the same thing is true of Gateway motherboards even though the board itself says intel on it.
If this is so, did I fry the motherboard by using a generic atx with p4 plug to power the board? Or is the board just bad? I have tried resetting the bios but nothing seems to make any difference. Maybe the board is just bad?
Picture shows it has the stock ATX and ATX12V connections.
by R. Proffitt
- 12/30/06 11:03 AM
In reply to: Do Gateway motherboards require a Gateway power supply? by bigdaddya
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/lc/d865GLC_lg.jpg
So it takes what is a common supply today. I did find someone with a P3 that didn't have the ATX12V lead and that is also called an ATX supply...
Bob
Propriatary
by tuxmaster - 12/30/06 11:15 PM In reply to: Picture shows it has the stock ATX and ATX12V connections. by R. Proffitt
The key to solving your problem may be this.
Red led on the motherboard flashes once and that's it.
You may have a bad motherboard.
What is the Year Make Model and Manufacture the motherboard.
Oh and last time I checked Dell did not use propriety parts they use standard parts. In regards to Gateway I believe they are also the same. I am not so sure with them though. In regards to power supplies a power supply is a power supply. It just needs to fit your case and be ment for your motherboard (AT ATX BTX NLX). If it fits your case and it gives adequate power to the motherboard and it is a Known Good power supply then most likely it is not the power supply. Given that you bought your motherboard of EBAY I would say it is a bad motherboard most likely not a bad power supply.
Proprietary parts have more to do with memory and Cards because the motherboard is the thing that checks to see if it is from the same company and if they are not it will not work.
And if the motherboard is not getting power then I can not.
And to dispel a rumor you do not have to get a “special” power supply to fit dells. The problem they probably had is that they needed to get a “special” power supply to fit there small form factor case or a power supply to fit there case.
Be careful what you hear about computers in the computer industry in regards to the negatives about computer companies and information in general in regards to computers there is a lot off mis-information out there especially when it comes to being company specific when they should really be model specific. You can not categorize an entire company based upon one model which is what a lot of people do. With things like that they are all opinions.
Tux
last i checked (~2-3 yrs ago), Dell uses tweaked proprietary
by ackmondual - 1/5/07 2:27 PM In reply to: Propriatary by tuxmasterAn article OL posted a list of manuf who used 'tweaked' and even downright proprietary parts for their PCs in attempt to "lock-in" users from buying parts elsewhere. Dell was one of them. For example, it mentioned that Dell mobo MUST match with Dell power supplies due to their non-standard size, power handling, and possibley even their shape as well. I haven't checked recently, but seeing as how Dell doesn't even include backup discs for software pre-installed on Dell systems, I doubt they've gone back to std parts. Gateway probably the same since it's similar to Dell in major ways.
Can't say for certain re all Gateways....but here's another
by VAPCMD - 12/31/06 10:40 AM In reply to: Do Gateway motherboards require a Gateway power supply? by bigdaddyasource for big box PSS replacements.
http://www.power-on.com/gateway.html
VAPCMD
power supplies etc.
by caffjunkie - 1/5/07 4:47 PM In reply to: Do Gateway motherboards require a Gateway power supply? by bigdaddyathe easiest way to find the answer to this question is to put the mobo into a Gateway computer and see if it works... if it does not, check the CMOS battery. If that doesnt work, check to see if the RAM is installed properly and that the video cards and wires inside are properly connected... At last resort, put in an external video card to see if the built in video is shot.... If none of these work, your mobo is SOL! For your CPU though it should not be too hard to find a replacement mobo, with which you can use any PSU... 
no gateway power supply with 4 pin pentium 4 plug available
by bigdaddya - 1/5/07 6:23 PM In reply to: power supplies etc. by caffjunkieSigh, I'm 40 miles away from any significant size town here in the sticks of ND so it's not going to be possible to check it with a spare gateway pentium 4 type power supply because all I have is the old atx style gateway psu without the 4 pin power plug. I think that it would burn out the cpu without that 4 pin plug or just not work. Am I right in that conclusion? Other than that, I have checked memory installation and type, put in a new cmos battery, cleared the cmos and tried a pci slot based video card with the same results: nada. Guess the guy that sold me the board on ebay ripped me off. Unfortunately I had the board for several months before I tried it so the 7 day DOA return period is well over. Unless somebody comes up with a miracle it's time to chuck the board in the garbage. Many, many thanks to all who posted with helpful suggestions!!
Is it an OEM XP?
by twt97 - 1/5/07 9:19 PM In reply to: Do Gateway motherboards require a Gateway power supply? by bigdaddyaIf your hard drive has the OEM's version of XP that may be your problem. If you make substantial changes other than memory and some other hardware add ons, the OEM's version would refuse to work. I think that's done to keep users from putting that software on several computers.
Motherboard should go through the post sequence
by bigdaddya - 1/6/07 9:46 AM In reply to: Is it an OEM XP? by twt97I would think the motherboard should go through the post sequence with or without a hard drive but this one won't do anything whether a drive is connected or not. Anybody that can cast some light on that?
Motherboard should go thru POST with or without HDD unless
by VAPCMD - 1/6/07 10:27 AM In reply to: Motherboard should go through the post sequence by bigdaddyathe HDD is killing the system and I have seen that happen. Saw a system where is was OK without the HDD connected but with it connected it was DOA. Obviously a serious problem with the HDD. A replacement HDD worked fine and the system went thru POST as expected.
VAPCMD
Form Factor..keyword/
by castingRod47 - 1/7/07 7:28 AM In reply to: Do Gateway motherboards require a Gateway power supply? by bigdaddyaThis is your over-all term when working the hareware on your machine..
there is a website...
http://www.formfactor---.org---or---.com/can't remember..
..they explain alot..but reading takes time..
for power supplies..I would suggest you try PC Power & Cooling..
their website has a PSU-selector page..your machine I think is LISTED as other..you're going to have to get out the Tape Measurer..
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early models were about 75-watts..then 200-watts..250-watts..
for PC building I would suggest 400-watts(non-gaming)..
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Gaming PC's use from 600-watts to 1000-watts/from my reading..
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Power Supply plugs/connectors/harness wires are tricky-experiance is very necessary at that juncture..
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I use a 250-watt PSU in this machine..and a 400-watt PSU in my Project PC.
Do Gateway motherboards require a Gateway power supply
by steelburner - 2/15/07 6:53 AM In reply to: Do Gateway motherboards require a Gateway power supply? by bigdaddyaBigdaddya: A strict answer to your question is: It depends. I know it sounds like weaseling, but it's true. While any Micro-ATX mobo will work with any Micro-ATX PS, and any ATX with ATX, the case configuration for Gateway may dictate whether or not you can use another power supply. As far as meeting the requirements of Gateway or Dell, the answer is Yes.
I've been working with both Gateway and Dell computers since the mid-90's and I'd rather work on Dell machines because their components are largely NOT proprietary, whereas Compaq, HP, and Gateway seem to have a preponderance of "custom" parts. Right now I'm trying to fix a Gateway in a "Nina" case which has a bad power-supply, and even Gateway no longer stocks replacement power-supplies for them, even though it's a 2002 model computer! I've got the computer jury-rigged with an ATX power supply and it's working fine ... it's just that the power supply I'm using won't fit into the goofy case.
Steelburner
RAM for a Gateway (crap that it is!) Nina Micro ATX
by techytacky - 12/13/07 12:52 PM In reply to: Do Gateway motherboards require a Gateway power supply by steelburnerOn behalf of a dim-witted friend who was gullible enough to buy a product from Gateway, I am trying to find out what type of RAM that this machine uses, in order to upgrade to 1GB of RAM. The machine seems (from System Information) to have 500MB of RAM, which I would like to increase to 1GB. Since this slim machine probably only has at most two slots (I haven't opened the thing yet, but I'm guessing that it has not more slots than that, if even two slots), I will probably have to yank the existing RAM cards and replace them with double-sized cards. The question is (since this is Gateway crap!), what kind of RAM card will I need? I might add that when I called Gateway themselves, the PC-illiterate girl I tried to talk to began asking for the serial number, and when I pointed out that it was a generic question (specific RAM cards are not generally made for specific serial numbers), she got huffy, and the conversation ended predictably without me learning anything about this crappy machine (pity us who have to help friends who are dumb enough to purchase a crappy Gateway!).
Thanks,
techytacky
(NT) See what CRUCIAL.COM lists.
by R. Proffitt - 12/13/07 12:54 PM
In reply to: RAM for a Gateway (crap that it is!) Nina Micro ATX by techytacky
If only!
by techytacky - 12/13/07 4:57 PM In reply to: (NT) See what CRUCIAL.COM lists. by R. Proffitt
Crucially, Crucial.com doesn't even list the Gateway Nina Micro system, which probably says a lot about the series!
techytacky
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