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Cell phones: Razr R3 - USB Charge

by Cooperf - 11/28/05 7:44 PM
Post 16 of 50

Spitting really worked!

by tabs71 - 11/28/08 9:10 PM In reply to: In an emergency, spit on it! by cccmikey

I've been trying to charge my phone with my computer for an hour now. After I read your post I tried your suggestion. It worked! Thanks.

Post 17 of 50

Motorola Razr V3 or R3?

by snooper2 - 1/9/06 7:21 AM In reply to: Razr R3 - USB Charge by Cooperf

You identify the Motorola Razr phone as an R3. I am not aware of an R3 suffix model. Did you mean V3?

Now, as to the charging via a USB cord to the PC: the so-called Motorola "Mini USB cord has a USB 2.0 jack at one end that should plug into any USB port on a PC, but the other (smaller) end of that "mini-USB" cord has a jack that is specifically designed to plug into the phone port on the left, near bottom side of the Razr phone (as you face it opened, with the "dial" keyboard facing you. If you scrounge what LOOKS like the Motorola "Mini-USB" cord, it may indeed plug into the PC and the phone, but, if you have not installed the Motorola soft ware, it still may not work.

SOLUTION: Spring for the Motorola software and it should work fine.

Motorola also make a stand-alone phone charger that plugs into an electrical outlet. It is the OEM Motorola V3 Razr Desktop Charger CHPN4612. I bought one from Portableport.com and with shipping it is around $34.00. I bought two spare batteries, but these new batteries (hold/retain a charge)work so well, and I use the standard "Travel charger" at night, my batteries are always full and waiting, and I am very pleased with the whole kit and kaboodle.

The Razr phone is a very sophisticated piece of equipment and I think it is unwise to buy or use "Brand-X" components that are unguaranteed with this phone.

Post 18 of 50

Speed Charging with the Motorola Stand Alone Charger

by snooper2 - 1/10/06 6:51 PM In reply to: Motorola Razr V3 or R3? by snooper2

Charging the battery of a Motorola Razr V3 cell phone is slowest when using the Motorola "Mini-USB" cable as the phone (a) must be turned ON and (b)attached to a USB port on the Computer...which also must be turned on. If the phone is not ON, the battery in the phone will not charge. This is a bit bothersome.

Charging the battery using the travel charger requires the phone be connected to an electrical outlet. The phone need NOT be ON while charging.

Fastest of all is the Stand alone charger/Power Supply, model # SSW-0855, otherwise identified on the web as CHPN46139. I just got mine today and I had previously purchased two spare batteries. Brand new, they are supposed to be charged 24 hours. This charger charged each in about 2 hours apiece. There are no wires on this item. A battery slips into a custom slot, the tines of the battery fold out, you plug it in, and voila! The green light blinks during the charge, and is steady when the charge is full. This charger is supposed to NOT overcharge, ever.

My charger cost $29.99 + shipping and it works fast and great. I got mine from PortablePort.com

Post 19 of 50

Errata

by snooper2 - 1/11/06 9:51 AM In reply to: Speed Charging with the Motorola Stand Alone Charger by snooper2

Sorry folks. The tines are on the battery charger, not the battery. It's tough when the two-fingered typing is faster than the brain.

Mea culpa!

Snooper2

Post 20 of 50

Speed of charging with the USB cable

by jdcarlin - 1/11/06 2:26 PM In reply to: Speed Charging with the Motorola Stand Alone Charger by snooper2

Technically, the speed of the charging shouldn't be any slower or faster using the USB cable versus the stand-alone charger... they both output 5.0VDC, or at least as does my charger that came with it. Of course, third party or after-market accessories may be different, but at least the USB cable shouldn't be any different than the charger that comes with the phone.

Post 21 of 50

Speed of charging Motorola Razr V3 battery with Mini-USB cab

by snooper2 - 1/11/06 6:33 PM In reply to: Speed of charging with the USB cable by jdcarlin

Motorola -- not just me -- says its charging with the Mini-USB cable connected to a PC is slower than with the travel charger that comes with the Razr V3 phone kit. And the phone (and of course, the PC) must be turned on. I didn't make that up. It's what Motorola said.

And when I first-time charged my Razr V3 with the battery that came with it, the Motorola instructions said to charge it for 24 hours. I did.

However, I did observe (because of the green & red lights on the stand alone charger) charged each of my two new V3 batteries -- the ones Motorola says to charge for 24 hours with the travel charger when brand new -- in about two hours, each. I didn't make THAT up,either, I just timed and observed it.

Post 22 of 50

Speed of charging Motorola Razr V3 battery with Mini-USB cab

by jdcarlin - 1/12/06 9:16 AM In reply to: Speed of charging Motorola Razr V3 battery with Mini-USB cab by snooper2

Not a problem. I didn't mean to accuse you lying, just pointing out that it didn't make any sense to me. Both simply deliver a voltage, and as far as I knew, the same voltage, at least with the charger that comes with it. The phone has no idea if the power is coming from a USB port, auto charger or wall charger (nor should it care), and if it's the same voltage, it shouldn't be any faster or slower.

Also, charging time will always be faster with the phone off, regardless of the source.

After-market accessories may deliver a different voltage, and therefore their charging time may vary.

Post 23 of 50

Current is the key

by yauipop - 2/3/06 6:14 PM In reply to: Speed of charging Motorola Razr V3 battery with Mini-USB cab by jdcarlin

I think the same voltage doesn't necessarily means that the charging time will be the same. It is the amount of current that matters in this case. Proper USB spec states that each port can delivery 500mA of current, and I believe this number is less than that of the Wall charger. Thus charge time will be longer via the USB port.

Post 24 of 50

USB Charging

by seneschal - 12/15/06 9:42 PM In reply to: Speed Charging with the Motorola Stand Alone Charger by snooper2

No, charging via Mini-USB cable does not have to have the phone turned on, just the computer/power sourced.

Post 25 of 50

Sofware question

by Drivernumber22 - 1/11/06 3:54 PM In reply to: Motorola Razr V3 or R3? by snooper2

When using moto tools how do you transfer apps?

Post 26 of 50

There is an easier way.

by hotcalsun - 2/9/07 1:57 PM In reply to: Motorola Razr V3 or R3? by snooper2

I had the same issue, and did not want to spring for the free tools. There are some great free drivers out there that work. I posted a how-to on my site, so that it is easy for everyone.

http://www.somelifeblog.com/2007/01/motorola-razr-v3-how-to-charge-and.html

<a href="http://www.somelifeblog.com/2007/01/motorola-razr-v3-how-to-charge-and.html">Motorola USB Charge</a>

Post 27 of 50

Solve USB charging issue on Razr V3 for zero cost in 5 min

by DanOHara - 11/21/07 3:36 PM In reply to: Motorola Razr V3 or R3? by snooper2

I also had the charging problem with my Motorola Razr V3. Once the Razr battery went completely dead, I couldn't charge it via the USB cable off the PC. First the keypad would flash blue for 2 seconds but not power up. Then not even the keypad would light. To solve this, I removed the battery from the phone. It is labeled as a BR50. There are 4 gold contacts. Using a multimeter, I measured across the two outside pins (labeled + and - ) and saw 2.6 volts. The BR50 label says it is a 3.7 volt lithium ion battery.

Knowing that the USB port puts out 5V, I put 3 AA (1.2v) NiMH cells in series, and connected the resulting 3.6 volts to the battery's + and - contacts (positive to positive, negative to negative). After about 30 seconds of charging, I put the BR50 back into the phone and had keypad lights again, but not enough power to boot up the phone. Another 30 seconds connected to my improvised charger put enough into the BR50 that when I put it back into the phone it was able to boot and started to charge from the USB immediately.

Once you line up the three AA cells all facing the same way, be sure that you connect the free positive end of the first AA battery to the + terminal on the BR50 and the free negative end of third AA battery to the - terminal of the BR50 using some copper wire. Make sure the polarity is correct! If you aren't sure, get some help from someone who is. Don't charge the BR50 for more than 30-60 seconds at a time from the AA batteries, and stop charging it immediately if you notice it getting warmer.

You might have to repeat the charge process a few extra times depending on how dead the BR50 is, but I don't suggest doing it more than 5 or 6 times (3 or 4 min total). If that hasn't made any difference, there may be something else wrong.

Cheers
Dan

Post 28 of 50

Online driver

by idmitriy - 1/14/06 1:48 AM In reply to: Razr R3 - USB Charge by Cooperf

Just search online for USB driver for RAZR V3. That's how I fixed the problem and now I can charge the phone from my desktop computer and USB cable.

Post 29 of 50

mini-USB = mini-USB

by holykemp - 7/5/06 4:19 PM In reply to: Online driver by idmitriy

Thank god for Dmitriy. I had to read through that entire thread before he pointed out that I could find a driver on the internet (hopefully free) that will charge my phone through the USB.

Second, I'm sorry to point out that snooper2's posts need some clarifying and the answer is not in purchasing more from Motorola. Your "solution" in post 13 to "Spring for the Motorola software and it should work fine" is totally bunk. Why should we have to "spring" for more software just to charge a phone that we paid a lot of money for? Also, the mini-USB is not proprietory (as you state in post 3). If any ole USB cord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus) can plug into the phone, it should be able to charge it.

Now I'm off to find that driver. Oh, and does anyone know how to get those white specks of dust off of the inside of the screen?

Post 30 of 50

agree w/ holykemp

by campbellchrissy - 7/18/06 1:59 PM In reply to: mini-USB = mini-USB by holykemp

so did you guys ever find a RAZR driver that is shareware?

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