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SONY SXRD
by Vito - 11/22/06 9:11 PM In reply to: SXRD Nothing else by minipro12Good Choice!!!,You won't regret it,I just bought one two weeks ago and can't stay away from it!! VITO
Side by Side Comparison
by egrazer - 11/23/06 5:43 AM In reply to: DLP vs. SXRD by jacbecI have not seen the Sony LCos but, I think you have to look at the comments regarding side by side comparison with a jaundiced eye. None of these commenters claim that they have read the instruction manuals or made any assurances that the TV's they were watching in-store were properly set up or calibrated. I have seen DLP TV's side by side with conflicting results (the last time with a blown-out Samsung and an oversaturated Mitsubishi). They're not hiring rocket scientist at retail stores nor do the employees have endless time to recalibrate TV's after the public fiddles with the controls. If you haven't spent the time to learn the TV and made yourself sure that its calibrated properly, a side by side comparison is worthless.
SXRD vs DLP
by sculldog - 11/23/06 1:22 PM In reply to: Side by Side Comparison by egrazerSpending 3 years watching the evolution of DLP vs LCD VS LCOS have shown waiting for prices to normalize around $1800 is best part. DLP is known for providing possible "screen door"effects vs the corner "green corner spotting" of SXRD. LCD rear projection just couldn handle the deepest blacks for contrast. The sets have stabilized and the price drops have reached a sweet spot. I bought the SXRD A2000. There is NO comparison in a side by side especially for off-axis viewing (watching the set from the side). My unit pushed a hair on the red side out of the box but the colors were definitely more vibrant.
I think if the Samsung unit comes out with the LED DLP setup..then it'll be closer to the SXRD. Them and Mitsu..need to chuck the "spinning wheel".
The other thing to consider is the audio/video traffic cop. Get a new sony or Onkyo 674 reciever. Both can handle full($600 at CC)hdmi up conversion and switch of both digital AND ANALOG signals. Buy HDMI cables for $20 at amazon.com... You won't regret it. Finally top it off with a Harmony 880 or 890 remote.. and simply your remotes....
2006 model SXRD
by wemiles - 11/25/06 3:13 PM In reply to: SXRD vs DLP by sculldogI have been watching and researching the various types of SONY HD televisions and it seems to me the early models of SXRD (pre Feb. 2006) certainly had some issues with picture quality. The older 2006 models now offer true 1080p, decreased picture artifact, and very good HD picture quality. The down side to me is the SD signal is not very good on these models, especially if viewed in the wide zoom,wide, full, etc, modes.
I have the SONY 50inch A2000 model and am seriously considering upgrading to the SXRD 60 inch XBR model or the 46 inch LCD XBR model. I have always been pleased with the XBR models as they seem to offer a better quality television. I am not totally displeased with the 50 inch SXRD but I seem to always be able to detect the video artifacts and the XBR models seem to demonstrate the fewest visual flaws.
To me the SXRD pictures are slightly better than DLP but it is difficult to tell the difference. The stores display a signal broadcasted to show the strengths of the TVs and not their weaknesses and unless the TVs are side by side, difficult to determine the best. I wish they had viewing rooms with calibrated TVs for comparison purposes and not let the public adjust the pictures from the menu.
There are multiple internet sites that offer decent reviews to help make up your mind not to mention prices are dropping. In closing, I would suggest either the SONY LCoS XBR2 or XBR3 over any other projection television.
SXRD Artifacting SD Video
by yestele - 5/25/07 5:37 PM In reply to: 2006 model SXRD by wemilesThe problem with SXRD is the quality is so good it will show transmission defects other TV's cannot. The SXRD's quality is so good it displays the flaws associated with the compression used in transmission. MPEG is is far from perfect especially with facial color and large surfaces of the same color. If you take a JPG photo and increase the compression percentage significantly you will see how the picture quality degrades. I assume this is the "artifacting" you see with the SXRD. It will look like small squares of off shade colors. You see this quite often when there is a large area of the same color and there are square blotches in the picture. Satellite transmission such as DirecTV use fairly heavy compression. The transmission of video is still using old technology developed before the days of HD and 50" televisions. Now you have a TV capable of displaying the every little defect in the transmission quality and then it is magnified by the picture size. On to of that you then use the Zoom and magnify it some more. SD DVD's are better than cable or satellite signals buy they are still compressed just not as much. The only way to to get a perfect picture is a direct feed from a high quality video camera. If you set the A2000 picture sharpness to Vivid you will see more of the transmission related defects. Even when set to "Standard" you will still see the flaws. You can use the Custom feature and reduce the sharpness to about 25% from the standard 50% and you will see less defects. Or you can buy the other TV that does not have the quality to show the transmission flaws with the erroneous perception it has a better picture. An LCD based TV has a much slower display response time that will smooth out the transmission flaws.
(NT) Sony SXRD LCos.
by Ryo Hazuki - 11/24/06 7:36 AM In reply to: DLP vs. SXRD by jacbeconly Sony....
by bumperman - 11/25/06 7:09 AM In reply to: DLP vs. SXRD by jacbecI have been down this path with great intensity; Instead of a lot of chitter-chatter & technichal terms, let me get straight to the point:
The SONY SXRD is the BEST HDTV picture I have seen, PERIOD! I have the 50" sitting in my TV room, and I can tell you all of my friends admit their products, and the ones they were thinking of buying, PALE in comparison.
Do yourself a favor---GO GET THE SONY SXRD--The 1080i Native Resolution (whoops, technical jargon)---just go look at it, side by side, and you will see. The 60" can be had (now) for about $2600. You will not find a better TV or Deal.
IMHO,
Jim
Other factors beside if picture quality is about the same...
by bigec2002 - 11/25/06 10:50 AM In reply to: DLP vs. SXRD by jacbecI had one of the earlier Sony 1080p rear projections and currently own a JVC HD-ILA (jvc's version of LCOS) set. I opted for the jvc for these reasons:
1. Bad bulb life experience with sony
2. better picture quality with JVC for standard def channels
3. better 3-2-1 pulldown/theater pro mode for viewing older slower frame media
The sony sets have better color accuracy which can be noticeable to some sharp eyed viewers with HD programing. In terms of high speed motion content, the JVC sets have made great strides in their chip speeds and can hang with anyone.
If the minute is worth YOUR money, go right ahead. My money went in a bigger JVC set.
DLP vs SXRD
by dmachine01 - 11/25/06 12:14 PM In reply to: DLP vs. SXRD by jacbecHi Jack,
Looked at so many HD's and finally decided on the 61" Samsung. DLP, in my opinion, is the way to go. Of course we all have our preferences. Hope that helps.
Tony
61" dlp here too
by jostenmeat - 11/25/06 5:50 PM In reply to: DLP vs SXRD by dmachine01Have a Panny pt61dlx76 with a 12.5k to 1 contrast (anyone seen bigger?). I know contrast ratios are hard to compare except within a brand, but it is well known that contrast is extrememly important- more important than the number of pixels you receive. Anyways, the blacks could be better I suppose. I believe the refresh rate of dlp's is 1000s(?) of times faster according to another forum; great for sports which I love. Have to admit, those Sonys look fancy-shmancy, but I only paid 2100 for my tv. yippie!
SAMSUNG HL-S6187W 1080p DLP is SPECTACULAR
by mmayer54 - 11/25/06 8:37 PM In reply to: DLP vs SXRD by dmachine01After shopping Mitzubishi DLP, Toshiba DLP, & SonySXRD TVs, I settled on the newest 61" Samsung 1080p and, for almost 2 months now and my eyes are still "spoiled". 10,000 to 1 contrast gives me bright whites, DEEP blacks, remarkable detail, and great color too. I'm running BOTH HDTV & my upscaling 1080 DVD player via my new Onkyo HDMI 1080p pass-thru receiver. The "HDMI" pure digital connection definitely makes a difference. Movies (Broadcast & DVD), Concerts, Sports, and Discovery HD Nature & travel all look fantastic!
TODAY, 11-25-06, Fry's had the HL-S6187 for $2899-$900 INSATNT savings. That's right, JUST $1999 !!!
DLP vs. LCD
by Osa007 - 11/26/06 12:41 PM In reply to: DLP vs. SXRD by jacbecTo decide which TV to get you just have to compare the picture quality side by side or just ask yourself what your going to be using your TV for or watching? The facts say that if you like watching sports, fast action video, or video games DLP is the best for you, but if you like watching stuff about the environment, documentaries, or animal planet LCD maybe best for you. LCD is not bad for gaming. In fact the PSP had an LCD screen and the game quality was amazing, but DLP is the hottest thing now that everybody is talking about and has been advertised way more.
DLP and LCD have great picture quality, but most companies are backing DLP. In fact the only company that is not is Sony because they do not specialise in DLP and Sony likes to use their own technology. It is a tough choice, but I would choose DLP.
The bottom line is that it may not actually be picture quality that wins this war, but longevity and which technology last the longest or gets the most out of your money, which is what killed the Plasma televisions.
My choice was Mitsubishi
by lou_do - 11/27/06 4:51 PM In reply to: DLP vs. SXRD by jacbecI just purchased a new HD and was between the two, also. I didn't see much difference in the smaller screens, under 50 inches. But in the over 50 inch sets, the Mitsubishi's looked a little cleaner and sharper picture. I purchased a Misubishi WD-57731.
Another factor in my choice was the fact that I have had Sony's in the past and a few of them have spent many hours in the shop. I purchased my first HDTV, a Mitsubishi WS-55857, back in 2001. Other than an occassional cleaning of the lenses and mirror, it has never been touched. The picture quality of it is still good, after 6 years. We are going to keep it and continue to use it as a second set.
My only reason for wanting to change sets is for the HDMI inputs which the 55857, doesn't have. I also wanted a new set with 1920 x 1080p display. The old set had a max of 1080i and no 720p.
I would recommend the Mitsubishi.
I owned one
by dickiepaws - 5/25/07 8:07 PM In reply to: DLP vs. SXRD by jacbecI owned the 60 SXRD for a week. The picture is fantastic and the set is flawless in every way but one: I couldnt deal with the silk screen effect. I could often see shimmering specially towards the middle of the set, I mean its perfectly natural for the set to display that, its the way the technology works, but I didnt like it. Long story short, Im now giving the 50 inch panny plasma a shot right now
Concerns
by acermanco - 11/22/07 10:41 PM In reply to: I owned one by dickiepawsWhat's the difference between DLP TV sets vs. Lycos TV sets. Do they both incorporate the "infamous light bulb" for their light source?
Thinking about a DLP Samsung 56" with the LED light source.Any pros or cons.I'm a little afraid of the repair history for rear projection sets.Vs. say: a Plasma set. Should this be a concern.
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