Computer newbies: Help! How difficult is uninstalling Norton's Int. Security?
Reply to: overkill?
by John.Wilkinson
- 11/21/06 5:44 PM
In reply to: overkill? by cretin
* Yes, if the e-mail was infected you should have been warned. However, there's no guarantee that's how it came in.
* To remove NAV from SystemWorks pop in the SystemWorks CD, launch the installer, tell it you want to modify the current installation, and then tell it to remove NAV but leave the other installed components.
* I would run Norton and WinPatrol at startup. Trojan Hunter is rarely needed. Ewido's free version does not provide real-time protection so there's no reason to have it running except when performing a full system scan, same thing with AdAware and A-Squared. SpywareBlaster doesn't need to be run to work, so the only time it should run is when you want to update it's 'definitions.' You could leave SpyBot running, but that's up to you.
* Once the malware was removed there's no reason to restore. In fact, if you restored to a time between the malware being installed and you removing it you could have unwittingly reinfected yourself. Thus, once it's removed it's best to just leave it be.
Hope this helps,
John
Whats running is-do I need themall?
by cretin - 11/21/06 11:07 PM In reply to: Reply to: overkill? by John.Wilkinson
John,
I use the paid versions of Ewido, A-Sq. which both offer active protection. I dissabled Ewido for now & it seems a little faster both are probably overkill? I also have BOClean which also does as well. ( I told you I was a sucker for these) but I constantly read here that you can't have too much protection. It seems that Trojan Hunters guard is also enabled. Are all these protections necessary? They all look like good programs though this new version of Ewido doesn't seem to find nearly as much as the previous version did. What do you think?
Thanks John!!
My thoughts...
by John.Wilkinson - 11/25/06 8:53 PM
In reply to: Whats running is-do I need themall? by cretin
Personally, I think it's a little overkill, so here's what I would do:
Norton Internet Security:
* Run the firewall and real-time antivirus protection 24/7.
* Run a full virus scan weekly.
* If you don't need the spam killer and privacy controls you can uninstall those components to increase performance.
WinPatrol:
* Leave it running 24/7.
Trojan Hunter:
* This is more of a specialist tool, not for daily use.
* Disable the real-time protection.
* Run a full system scan only as needed.
A-Squared:
* Considering the other protection the paid version is not necessary, so after the subscription ends I'd switch to the free version.
* Disable the real-time protection.
* Run a full system scan once or twice a month.
AdAware:
* Real-time protection is not necessary, so disable if you have the paid version and don't renew.
* Ewido should catch most, but you can run a weekly scan with AdAware after the others if you like.
SpyBot:
* Disable TeaTimer (the real-time protection).
* Again, Ewido should get the job done but you can run SpyBot afterwards as a checkup if you like.
Ewido:
* I consider the real-time protection to be overrated, so I would not renew the subscription.
* Disable the real-time protection.
* Run a full system scan every week after Norton.
SpywareBlaster:
* Doesn't need to be run 24/7, only when you wish to update it (every other week is fine).
BOClean:
* I hadn't heard of it before and the reviews weren't that good.
* Personally, I'd just ditch it completely, replacing it with Windows Defender.
Windows Defender:
* Offered free from Microsoft for Windows XP/Vista users.
* Run it 24/7 as your primary defense against spyware.
* You can skip the weekly scan in favor of Ewido's if you wish.
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Thus, you'd only have 3 things running 24/7:
* Norton
* Windows Defender
* WinPatrol
That will give you the best balance between security and performance for the tools at your disposal.
Hope this helps,
John
P.S. Thanks for waiting...that certainly was one hectic Thanksgiving! 
Thanks to my thoughts!
by cretin - 11/30/06 8:54 PM In reply to: My thoughts... by John.Wilkinson
Thanks thats just what I needed, I hadn't realized "Defenders" protection or the program itself was that well thought of. I had taken it off because of all the rest. I always ran ad-aware se religiously & Defender has never found anything that Ad-aware had missed. I will discontinue the paid A-SQ. after the 30 day trial is over. I already had Norton's Int. Sec. remove Spy bot their 2007 version makes you do it saying it is incompatible with their pgm! I don't need the Spam & privacy features so I'm going to try & disable them after I sign off here. I also had a hectic Thanksgiving & I just now found your response!
Thanks so much!!!!! Steve
3 YEARS!
by ww2vet54 - 11/17/06 4:25 PM In reply to: Help! How difficult is uninstalling Norton's Int. Security? by cretinMy God man! Norton 2006, which my wife purchased for us allowed both computers in our home to become so infected I gave up and just re-installes the OS on both. I purchased "Zone Alarm Suite 2006" for both and have never been happier. My kid has a gaming laptop that we hopped up and installed XP Media 2005 on. Read a good review of "Norton 2007" so I downloaded the 90 day trial from "Microsoft", installed it and his software. Did a scan and "Norton" identified a threat and prompted "can not clean / Must turn off System Restore" I did and then realized "Norton" would NOT UNINSTALL! Tried to do a system restore and ti could not restore. Tried a PC restore to no availe. Finally gave up and re-installed OS again. Will nerev try a "Norton" product anain. Maybee you can ruin it enough with a file shredder to be able to install "Zone Alarm" or "trend Micro 2006". Trend is available for 90 day free trial thru the "Microsoft" website. just search "Security Software Trials", Good luck. I feel for you!
3 Years!
by dseale4888 - 11/17/06 5:13 PM In reply to: 3 YEARS! by ww2vet54I used Norton for years. Started giving me problems. Couldn't do anything for this or that. I switched to Zone Alarm 2 years ago. Just renewed for 2 years. I've had no problems. It can be bothersome at times to figure out what program is trying to access the net, but once you set it up it is easy to use. You have the options of setting the parameters for each program.
Dave
I recommend AVG + Windows Firewall
by scottwilkins - 11/17/06 4:25 PM In reply to: Help! How difficult is uninstalling Norton's Int. Security? by cretinToo many companies are throwing FUD at people to buy their products. If you are a conscious web surfer and don't open e-mails that you don't know what's in them, then you don't need overpriced solutions. First, AVG's free edition of anti-virus is awesome. It's clean, simple, small and works wonders. I actually recommend paying for AVG as the normal cost, which is lower than others, fills 2 years worth of updates, not one. Second, for Antispyware, either Microsoft's or AVG's new free antispy ware is all you need. Last, firewalls. Virus' don't attack via open IP ports anymore. They just don't. Any simple firewall will do, and HEY! Windows XP has a firewall built in! So why spend money on a firewall that will only annoy you? Besides if you have a router gateway, you have a hardware based firewall already in place before you even get to your computer.
Keep it simple, keep it clean. AVG, and everything else provided by MS will be more than enough for all but the most risky of internet users. And, even those types, nothing will be 100%. Anything else is wasted money and wasted time/productivity (in trying to deal with the constant barrage of pop-ups telling you something is invading, when actually you wanted it to.)
Easy - sort of.
by kentravel - 11/17/06 4:28 PM In reply to: Help! How difficult is uninstalling Norton's Int. Security? by cretinFirst run a search with "norton" as the kety word.
Then delete all found folders/files.
Then run a registery cleaner to get rid of all registry references to Norton.
That should do it.
Uninstalling Norton's internet security
by Whitecougar - 11/17/06 4:36 PM In reply to: Help! How difficult is uninstalling Norton's Int. Security? by cretinNavigate to symantec's website and download their removal tool...
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/sharedtech.nsf/docid/2005100611474113?OpenDocument&lg=en&ct=us&seg=hho&src=hot
How difficult is uninstalling Norton's Int. Security?
by Ajay 2006 - 11/17/06 5:42 PM In reply to: Help! How difficult is uninstalling Norton's Int. Security? by cretinHi, To uninstall Norton's Int. Security, you download Norton_Removal_Tool.exe,install & use it.
Nirmal Chakrabarty
Norton is not hard to uninstal...
by GradyPhilpott - 11/17/06 6:29 PM In reply to: Help! How difficult is uninstalling Norton's Int. Security? by cretinIt's just time consuming and tedious.
Not only that, but Norton is so bloated and full of bugs that slows down your machine and demands hours of futzing around to keep it running.
Norton Internet Security 2005 "decided" to disable itself one month after I installed it and I had to reinstall it three times in total because, for no apparent reason, it "thought" that my subscription had expired.
Never again will any Symantec product rob my computer resources, my time, or my wallet.
I have copies of NIS 2004 and 2005 under my desk. Ordinarily, I find someone who needs such things and give them away. The only reason those are still under my desk is because I can't think of anyone I hate bad enough to give them to.
Uninstalling Norton
by auggie - 11/17/06 9:00 PM In reply to: Help! How difficult is uninstalling Norton's Int. Security? by cretinAdd and remove programs, will uninstall Norton just fine, unless there is a file missing. In that case, Norton support has a tool that will remove the program. I have Zone Alarm on one of my computers, and it works just fine. Kaspersky Antihacker is exellent, but my favorite is still Norton. I have Norton Systems Works, and the utilities are awesome! The Premeir edition backs up your disk, and if you ceash, will restore your computer good as before.
Uninstalling Norton
by boghound - 11/18/06 12:20 AM In reply to: Uninstalling Norton by auggieWhen I switched from "Dial-up" to "ADSL", I had no end of trouble with Norton on two machines. Would not update etc. The Norton support was no help at all. All their suggestions failed. So just uninstalled it using the three small uninstallers. I installed McAfee on one, no trouble at all just "chugs" away in background using very little power. Like a fool, I installed Norton Security 06' on the other. What a BIG MISTAKE. Makes machine run slowly and interfers with software installation. Will wait for subscription to run out then try Kaspersky or Nod32.
Norton Allowed Infestation & Wouldn't Uninstall
by kaczocht - 11/25/06 6:09 AM In reply to: Uninstalling Norton by boghoundMy daughter paid for Norton subscription and it didn't protect her. I had to restore the OS from the factory install backup drive (thank you HP - Dell has a similar feature). I bought the family 4 user version of NOD32 and it alerts me via email when it stops another maleware or virus. Before I restored, NOD32 found infections that McAfee failed to find. The machine had restore points infected going back nearly two years. There were 20+K infected files. I think that virus authors were using the machine as a remote development box. I highly recommend NOD32 and a router with a good firewall. The less software running on the machine, the better. I once thought that knowing which program was calling out to the web was important. Most of them do that now, automatically checking for updates or annoyingly telling you about other add-ons or products available. It's not worth the time to figure out how to keep the update working and stop the marketing. It's easier and saves time when you just refuse the offer with a mouse click. We can never restore all the frustrating time we spent fussing with a tool that's supposed to save us time and entertain us. Keep it simple and try to enjoy the time in our lives.
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