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Community Newsletter: Q&A: 11/3/06 I'm lost about what GPS unit I should get

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 11/2/06 5:41 PM
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Other advice from our members

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 11/2/06 5:21 PM In reply to: 11/3/06 I'm lost about what GPS unit I should get by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

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Here's three words for you-Nuvi 350. Actually, only two words. well, ok technically a word and a number. But the point is, it's terrific.In my usage gave us d oor to door directions in several new cities and states ( my wife just used it to drive around NYC and raves); top rated by Consumer Reports as well as a nice review by Cnet; lightweight (literally fits in your pocket and can be taken with you in different cars); intuitive operation ; the whole nine yards.

As for your questions, here's a few things to consider:

-size and weight-- it may be "portable" but do you really want to try to lug that 12 ounces in a coat pocket?

-voice commands- most, but not all, will give you directions ("turn right in 400 yards"); Nuvi tells you "turn right in 400 yards onto Elm Street") as a double check in a strange city. That way you don't have to take your eyes off the road to confirm you're turning at right street.

-traffic reports-- some models ( including higher end models of the Nuvi) can reportedly, and with a monthly charge and add on attachments, give you "real time" updates on traffic conditions in certain cities. Not sure if it's worth it-- limited number of cities and speed of alerting you to a problem would seem to be issues.

-input- touch screen a must. The Nuvi is intuitive , requiring you to only tap the screen a couple of times to get to many common types of destinations, like hotels and restaurants. For new addresses, you have to type them in; afterwards, they appear in a retained list of your destinations.

-add ons- there's additional features on most of them, like memory ,so you can download books, or the ability to use it as an MP3 player. The Nuvi has some travel features, like currency converter and language translator. Who cares, right? You're trying not to get lost in Cleveland, not convert your yen to dollars with a guy who speaks French.. Nice touches, but not worth paying more for, in my view. One that may be worth it, on the Nuvi 360 and higher, is a Bluetooth connection that lets the unit act as a speakerphone with Bluetooth cellphones if you have one.

-sensitivity. The technology is pretty good in most cases. The Nuvi usually acquires satellites within a minute or two. It can lag a bit when you change cities, as its brain adjusts to the fact that it is now seeking different satellites. My wife reports that the tall buildings in NY interfered with reception very infrequently. It also is important how quickly the unit recalculates the route if, for example, you miss a turn, there's a detour, etc. Again, the Nuvi works great. When my wife missed the exit for the Triboro Bridge in NY, the Nuvi quickly adjusted and got her back into the city.

There. Simple, right? Oh, and I don't work for Nuvi

Submitted by: Michael W.

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I made the unfortunate decision to purchase a GPS from Palm One that is supposed to work with my Treo 650 (Verizon). After purchasing it from The Palm Store and experiencing problems with the GPS freezing up while I was using it, I was told that Palm doesn’t support the products they package and I would have to contact the software vender (tom-tom) or the hardware vender (Holux).

After numerous calls to tom-tom I was told that their was an update due out in the first quarter of 2006 which might fix the problem. That never happened. Then the GPS receiver had to be replaced and I had to contact Holux who did replace the GPS. Tom-tom still hadn’t released any software fixes and the GPS still had freeze ups which always happened when it was being used on an interstate at 60mph. Tom-tom promised to update the software and maps by the end of summer2006. Now they say there will be no fix of the operating software. They are making available a new operating version for $150 or if I want to update the maps only $49, but I have to continue to put up with the system problems.

Thru out this period I have contacted Palm to try and have them take the package back under the 1 year warranty without any satisfaction. Palm customer service people don’t give a damm about their customers. If I asked to speak to a supervisor I was put on hold for an interminable time and eventually hung up. I attempted to contact Palm’s corporate office in California. There the answering machine invites you to either look up an extension by entering a name or hold for help. After holding for 30 minutes I gave that attempt. I then went online at Palm’s website, looked up the name of their President and the called back to the Corporate Office, entered the Presidents name and was told there was nobody by that name at that office.

The moral to this story is find don’t buy Palm Products or Tom-tom GPS. Both of these companies have no real support for their customers.

Submitted by: Bernie Z.

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I suggest Garmin as it has more sales of GPS units than any other brand in the USA, Tom Tom is the biggest in Great Briton & Europe.

There are several GPS units and you would need to check out the specifications of each to fit your needs http://www.garmin.com. I purchased a Garmin StreetPilot 7200 last March and it has saved my marriage (no more arguments in the car).

This unit talks you to your destination and has over 90 million points of interest built into the maps. No monthly payment for the GPS (antenna's require additional payments). Garmin also offers two antennas, one for XM radio, and one for "traffic & hazard" use in areas where they have the sensors."

Submitted by: George B.

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The best overall GPS is the Garmin 60cx. I use it to create maps and participate in Geocaching, the national sport. (http://www.geocaching.com) I love the 'treasure chest' icon that appears at all the caches I download into it and how they OPEN when you find the cache.

I use to use Magellen Platinum and it was easy to use but would lose signal in thick tree canopy. That hasn't happened with the Garmin 60cx. However, if Garmin could make an easier keypad to use like Magellen, then the Garmin would be perfect. I make LOTS of notes while mapping and the Garmin takes awhile to accomplish that task and doesn't offer the space Magellen did.

A friend purchased the 60cx from Ebay and had it at the door for $371.00. There are no service fees but you do need to purchase 'their' MapSource mapping program extra. Look for it on Ebay too.

Submitted by: oldhide

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In the olden days when people used to travel on horsebacks - it was easy to pack a sack of flour with a hole punched in it. This way the rider could check out his trail and could not lose his bearing.

These days - with all cities with similar Down-Towns (Glass Boxes) and residential areas with identical neighbourhoodscapes : One sure gets lost.

"Etrek" by Garmin is cheap and easy if you do not forget to click at each turning. No, I don’t think there is service charge. The Handheld gadget is basically for scouts on their Treasure Hunt missions but I guess this would solve your problem. Similar products are available by Trimble and Megallen (names not sure). Look for "Handheld GPS" on Google.

Submitted by: Anand U.

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I have a poor sense of direction in the nonvirtual world. Buying a GPS unit that gives directions makes sense, but I need help figuring out the different features and how much to spend on one. What kinds of features are there to consider? Are certain brands more trustworthy? Who has the best coverage area? Are there service fees, and if so, what's an average amount? Any information would be helpful.

I recently bought a Magellan 300 Roadmate for about $200 on e-Bay. The 300 model allows you to easily download 2 or 3 states (depending on size) from its included software into its internal memory with the option of using an SD card for adding additional areas. Although the 300 is the low tech model, it is every bit as adequate for almost all users as are the high cost models. The voice (male or female) is loud and clear and leaves no questions as to when and where to turn to reach the specific address you are driving to. The only thing that I have found not to be accurate is that it may tell you "You have arrived at your destination on the left," when it may actually be on the right, or vice versa. You might want to compare the prices and features of the higher priced units on the Magellan site to be sure which model suits your purposes most. There are no service fees and there is online help available if you need it.

Submitted by: Beryl F.

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I would avoid Magellan Roadmate 760. The maps are outdated, and it gives incorrect directions, turning instructions, at times. Magellan says the maps are updated every 12 to 18 months. Current maps are at least 24 months old.

It often will take you on routes that, according to a paper map, are out of the way..... but eventually arrive at your destination.

Magellan customer support is absolutely TERRIBLE! They have yet to respond to any of my emails to them through their web site.

You do want the touch screen and voice guidance options on whatever you buy.

Submitted by: Richard M.

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I've watched with interest the hoopla about GPS units. They are very pricey units. All the rage now is about one called "Tom Tom?" Several years ago I bought a laptop computer for business and when I retired I looked into GPS systems. Talk about sticker shock. Then I saw Delorme Street Atlas, which came with a GPS unit. I think I paid $159 for the software and the receiver. With the price of laptops as low as $500, and even lower, why would anyone want a handheld unless they were going to use it for hiking. If you're in the car, a laptop with GPS software is great, even giving you the amenities at the next exit. One bit of advice though, let your co-pilot run the computer.

Submitted by: GerryS8

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Hi John L.,

One GPS is as good as another. I'm a sea captain and have use most GPS's on the market and all of then have served me well. They all have basically the same features. If your interested in a hand held they run from $200.00 to $500.00 the more costly ones come with maps in them for cities in USA. I have a Garmin 72 hand held that I use on my sail boat that I can plot routes for sailing around from place to place and they all have this feature. You can use GPS world wide and there is no service charges.

Best regards.

Submitted by: Capt. Orval

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Let me enhance the question.

Unlike the Adventure Car Hop patrons of the 60's ("Adventure where the service is great and you never gets outta your car.") and the car-bound GPS cache yuppies of the 00's, there are a few(maybe a lot more than you think ) of us less out-spoken users of GPS who wander on foot miles away from paved roads with topo sheets in our back pack who would like to discover where we are on the map from reading the GPS. Road pilots have the luxury of a 5 inch screen. Us off-roaders are stuck with something the size of a small cell phone which is worthless for maps or anything bigger than a numeric readout, ie, lat-long. Anyone got a solution?

Submitted by: Robert M.

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John,

If your sense of direction in the real world is that bad you feel you need a navigation system, then may I suggest the following: CALL A TAXI.

Driving is hazardous enough without having directionally challenged drivers dividing their attention between the road and a low resolution video screen or straining to listen to some computer generated voice for directions.

The best one should do before setting out on an unfamiliar road it to map the route BEFORE you get behind the wheel.

Submitted by: Ben O. of Hazlet, New Jersey

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Garmin Nuvi 360

by atkinsp - 11/3/06 3:43 AM In reply to: Other advice from our members by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I've now owned three Garmins and think the Nuvi 360 is great. However, I upgraded to it from the Nuvi 350 and, knowing what I know now, would have stayed with the 350. Bluetooth is badly implemented in the 360 and my Blackberry does not work well with it. In addition, the two speakers face the windshield making it very difficult to follow a conversation, especially if any window is open. It's not worth the extra money. Stick with the 350.

Other than that one problem, this unit has been flawless. I travel extensively in my job and this unit has never gotten me lost--in fact, I only ask for the address of my locations now and never for directions.

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GARMIN NUVI 350 OWNER

by oilmanowen - 11/3/06 3:55 AM In reply to: Garmin Nuvi 360 by atkinsp

I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE, MY GARMIN NUVI 350 HAS GOTTEN ME TO VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND ADDRESSES FLAWLESSLEY I HIGHY RECCOMEND IT OVER THE 360

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Garmin Nuvi 350

by Fury2 - 11/3/06 7:54 AM In reply to: GARMIN NUVI 350 OWNER by oilmanowen

This is the best I've seen yet - completely portable
easy to use, and updates are sent to my email address
to download. I'd be "lost" without it!

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Nuvi 350-2 HUGE benefits I never expected

by roadrunner2525 - 11/3/06 8:15 AM In reply to: GARMIN NUVI 350 OWNER by oilmanowen

I too got caught up reading every review on the web trying to find the best GPS for the car. With a new car on the horizon in 12 months that would probably have one built-in, I spent a lot of time justifying the $500+ cost. The thing I got hung up on was the small screens of the portables, how easy it would be to read whereever I placed it in the car & frankly, thought in a $50K car, a windshield mounted version with a cord running to the power port would look tacky.

WRONG! What I didn't realize when I got it was the following incredible features of the Nuvi 350:
- everyone mentions voice prompted directions. Most units say "turn left at next intersection" but this doesn't help if you come up to an intersection with several streets angling off to the left, a service road paralleling the main road or a newly built road that may not be in the database. You then HAVE to look at the screen to see if it's reading the road accurately or which left hand road you're suppose to take. The Nuvi actually says the street name ie. "turn left on Main street in 1/4 mile", then "turn left on Main street in 200 ft", then just before the intersection "turn left on Main street". The voice prompts are so clear, I've never had to look at the screen. And the receiver is powerful enough that I never did mount it on the dash - it just sits in my console tray and I just listen to the voice prompts. So screen size & where to mount it have become irrelevant.
- I thought portability would be a pain since to prevent theft you have to take it with you when parking the car. But the huge advantage: I also use it to visit new clients or plans trips into unknown territory. Being able to bring it in the house at night allows me to enter the addresses for the next day while at my desk. With a car model, I'd have to write them down, then re-enter again while sitting in the car. And since it saves 500 of my last entries, I can also enter the address of someplace I know I may want to go sometime in the future, or enter every address I know I'm going to stop at on a long road trip.

It's great when renting a car in another city, or if you have several cars or travel in a friend's that doesn't have one. It's literally the size of a deck of cards, and unlike the Magellan or TomTom doesn't have a bulging backside like others (so slips unnoticed in a jacket pocket or briefcase) & all controls are via LCD touchscreen and is SO easy to use.
Plus have never had a problem with not being able to acquire satellite connection, battery lasts long enough that have never had to use the car charger and it quickly recalculates the route should I choose a shortcut or another road because of traffic tie-ups or I just know the area better. AND you can also switch it to walking mode and use it as a guide map when strolling in a new city.

As far as accuracy, no GPS unit gives the best directions 100% of the time. You still have to use your common sense if you know the area better like your own neighborhood. But they are invaluable if you find yourself in unfamiliar territory, even if you find yourself stuck in a traffic jam on your regular route and you're wondering which exit is the best to take to get over to another freeway.

As a portable, I'd rather carry something the size of a deck of cards rather than a can of soda & Nuvi's ability to speak street names make it the best choice, hands down.

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Another NUVI 350 Owner

by Gibsonws - 11/3/06 4:08 PM In reply to: GARMIN NUVI 350 OWNER by oilmanowen

Very satisfied with my 350 which I have had for 11 months. Good points made by others that I will not repeat. Purchase factors not discussed so far: Garmin probably has one of the best maps for their GPS units. All of North America is preloaded. They get their maps from a company that actually drives every road, creating the maps. As a result, their spoken directions are very thoughtful in that if you need to exit left off the interstate it warns you to get into the left lane.

Go to a store with GPS units on display and see if you can find your home address. Navitate from the store to your home. Is is correct? If not don't buy that one! What sold me on the Nuvi was that we took it outside the store and you could really see the features, screen clarity and size, hear the voice etc. Don't buy it unless you see it operate and are comfortable. Note that the Nuvi has a four-hour battery so you can take it out of the car and walk down the street, or take it into your house and look up an address. I just keep finding uses for it. (I had it plot my position on a cross-country air trip, it goes a little nuts trying to recalculate the roads. It knew we were going 600 mph at 40,000 ft!) This is my first GPS and I am very satisfied. This unit has a technology that is much easier to pick up signals. We often leave the unit on the car seat, works fine.

Garmin supports the customer! My unit had a problem and they replaced it in a week. About every three weeks there is a software update which I download and it keeps getting better.

As good as these units are, you still have to use your common sense when driving. One caution is that if you buy on the internet, Garmin may not honor the warranty.

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we love our Garmin 360

by aswb - 11/4/06 8:17 AM In reply to: Garmin Nuvi 360 by atkinsp

after much anxiety about what to buy, we bought the 360 mainly because of it's size.I have not used the extra features, so the 350 may be a better buy. I wish it had a better battery life, but as previous mentioned the power cord is not really a problem. the 360 is a great gadget that we actually use. Portland OR is a somewhat complicated city to get around when you're new to it--so far the 360 has done a really great job.

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GPS

by Eileen Corrado - 11/3/06 5:25 AM In reply to: Other advice from our members by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have a Garmin Street Pilot 720 which has a defect since I purchased it. It will not reset the satellite finder after a brief stop. This is a big problem, since when you stop for gas and turn off the car, the GPS comes back with a poor reception message and you don't have any use of it for many miles, one time it lasted for 150 miles of no GPS. Warranty problem, but it is impossible to get through to the GARMIN 800 number. This summer, the average wait was 1.5 hours! Well, I did wait 2 times and both times I got no resolution, no one would help me by allowing me to return the item. Can you imagine that, after spending $900.00, I can't get the unit even repaired..STAY AWAY FROM GARMIN!

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Get an external antenna

by williamrichard28 - 11/3/06 7:56 AM In reply to: GPS by Eileen Corrado

Get an external antenna. Available for under $50.00 online. It comes with a powerful magnet that keeps it on the car's roof and about 10 feet of thin wire that you can bring in through the door to the GPS unit.Use some Velcro to keep the wire in place inside your car. No need to drill holes. I leave the antenna permanently on the roof. No problem with car washes. I have a Magellan 700. It never worked well with its buit-in antenna. Once I connected with an external antenna, it worked great. You can not blame a GPS unit while you use a built-in antena. As you know, even the best television can have poor video if the antenna is bad.

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Better way than putting the antenna on the roof

by hairymon - 11/7/06 5:55 AM In reply to: Get an external antenna by williamrichard28

For about $10-30 on eBay (and I'm sure some vendors out there) you can buy a small device that is a metal square plate with a bent end that has 4 suction cups. You suction this to the bottom center of your windshield and attach the magnetic external antenna there.

The one disadvatage to putting it on the roof is that you usually have to leave your window open slightly, otherwise you may break the antenna wire having the window squeeze it. The windshield area is an equally clear view of the sky so it will work well.

I do this with my Lowrance IWay 100M, which by the way, though discontinued, is easy to find and is a very inexpensive way (under $200) to have a GPS that does turn-by-turn and voice prompts.

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GPS

by buddstock - 11/3/06 7:28 AM In reply to: Other advice from our members by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Megellan has a huge problem with updating there mapping thay haven`t updated it since 2001 I dont know where you live but roads have changed alot around me since 2001 .. I`ve emailed magellan several times asking when there going to update there mapping, there answer was... when thay have enought people asking( or get them pissed off enought) thay mite think about updating.. do your self a huge favor buy garmin thay update every other year just to keep up with things and too keep there customers happy.. Wayne.. Rocky Mount , NC

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Magellan GPS

by Skippy3246 - 11/3/06 9:24 AM In reply to: Other advice from our members by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have had a similar experience to those posted in this string. I also have a model Magellan 300, and it will often take you on a round-about path, but it will eventually get you there. That's the good news.

The most frustrating thing I found with this unit is that it requires the TOWNSHIP name, which in PA, at least may be different from the POST OFFICE name. For instance, I recently had to travel to a location with an "Elkins Park" post office address, but I had to know that Elkins Park was located in "Cheltenham Township." Also, the unit will not search by zip code, yet, when you hit the "LOCATE" button, it lsits the local zip code.

My advice, read through the strings in this posting for recommendations, but stay away from this Magellan unit.

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GPS Units

by djanna54 - 11/3/06 4:13 AM In reply to: 11/3/06 I'm lost about what GPS unit I should get by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

In an answer to the question on which one to buy: I ordered and am using the new NAVMAN PDA and I think it is great! The PDA part does all the things you'd expect a PDA to do; the NAV part does the navigation part. It is hand held, or you can also use the kit that comes with it to install it in your car, removing it when you want to walk with it. Like American Express...I don't leave home without it.

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GPS Units

by djanna54 - 11/3/06 4:33 AM In reply to: GPS Units by djanna54

I have already posted about NAVMAN, but, I forgot another possibility. I also have a laptop computer and last year I purchased Microsoft's Cities and Streets with a GPS module. I loaded the software, put the GPS module on the dashboard, insert the other end of the module cord into a USB port on my laptop and, eureka....I have a very good GPS that shows cities and streets. If you type in a destination, it will give you directions. I used this while my wife did the driving. Very nice. Worth looking into. Incidently, I also have the Magellan RoadMate 360, which I bought several years ago but my wife won't let me ''...stick that damn thing on the front windshield.'' She doesn't seem to mind the NAVMAN at all. So, she's happy and I'm happy. That's all that counts.

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GPS RS232 Output

by OnFilm - 11/3/06 6:09 AM In reply to: GPS Units by djanna54

Want to get the positions from GPS to my digital camera which has a RS232 port to accept the GPS data to be included in the EXIF data. Is RS232 from a GPS unit a thing of the past; all seem to be USB.

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