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Browsers: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7?
- 10/19/06 6:39 PM
If this is the future of Windows, give me ANYTHING else.
by josemourinho - 11/1/06 6:23 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
So can we expect Vista to be a version of XP that still has the same old meaningless dialogs, the same old incompatibilities, the same old uncustomisability, the same old arrogant 'we know better than you' attitude in spades, the same old tired visuals, the same old 'didn't quite catch up with the competition that time but give us two more years', the same old Microsoft 'while you install this application we will patch a few things' mediocrity? I found no reason to keep this bloatware installed for longer than a day; and if this is what we can expect from Vista I won't be 'upgrading' to that either. I may even switch.
Interface
by gyee96 - 11/1/06 6:25 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
I really like how smoothly IE7 works with Office, particularly Outlook.
Loaded it ....
by 3cpmoore - 11/1/06 6:42 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
... liked it. Scanner wouldn't work, printer wouldn't work. Contacted HP; said E7 and HP not yet compatable. Unloaded it. THE END
How do navigate the web like I did with IE6?
by mwworks - 11/1/06 6:48 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
I upgraded my new notebook computer to IE 7 in the hope that by using it I would learn to like it. Nevertheless, I do not have the patience how to figure how to get my favorites to stay up going from one web page to another? Why didn't MS provide an IE6 compatibility mode? When I get the chance, I'll uninstall IE7 and reinstall IE6.
Ken Friedman
IE7 UI, Stability, and Performance Issues
by temuchen - 11/1/06 6:51 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
[NOTE: This is as submitted to Microsoft's newsgroup for IE]
I would like to suggest that the following issues be addressed. I have been using IE7 since about the last two weeks of Beta 2, and I thought that some or all of these would be corrected before RTM. Unfortunately, they have not, and I have had to revert to IE6 and SlimBrowser.
1. Address and search bar - I would prefer to determine the length and location of these items, and whether or not to display the in-built search bar at all (I use the Google Toolbar).
2. I like the CUA-style menu bar. I am accustomed to it and prefer it to be present and at the top of the interface immediately below the title bar. The first is attainable, the second is not.
3. IE7 is slow. No, I mean s-l-o-o-o-o-o-w. It takes forever to open and forever to display pages, whether on the same tab or a new one.
4. The standard navigation icons are ridiculously small (my 15.3" laptop runs at its native 1600 x1200 resolution) and inexplicably scattered all over the interface instead of being grouped together as they should be. Please provide a full-size icon option and permit reconfiguring their locations.
5. Toolbars will not remain in position once arranged, even with "Lock Toolbars" set. It is extremely irritating to arrange all my toolbars so that I have four rows instead of seven, only to find that they've reverted the next time I start up IE.
6. Numerous problems with OE6. Sometimes clicking a link in an email does nothing. Sometimes it opens the link in IE, but it's a crap shoot which tab will be used or whether a new one will be opened. When a link does open in IE, the only way to know it is to manually focus IE, since it doesn't grab the focus from OE. And once you're displaying IE, the tab with the most current link is simply highlighted in a peach color, not focused. How about having IE invariably open links in emails, grab the focus, and bring the active tab to the fore.
7. Javascript - I am receiving javascript errors on pages which do not throw exceptions in any other browser (IE6, Opera 9.02, Firefox 1.5). These are usually "Object expected" errors. DOM issues?
8. Favorites - This is the showstopper which finally drove me to remove IE7. After years of working with IE, I have an extensive, well-organized, multi-levels deep heirarchical Favorites menu. The point is to have a manageable top-level menu which can be viewed without scrolling and to be able to drill down to specific subfolders according to the topic of the page being added. Imagine my consternation when I tried to add a favorite and my entire expanded menu structure dropped down. You cannot imagine how difficult it makes finding target folders. Under Web Development I have a Tutorials folder, with CSS, DMX, etc. But I also have a Tutorials folder under Graphics, with Adobe, Xara, etc., and another under Programming, with Delphi, VB, etc., and another... Get the idea? And this is repeated with other common subfolders besides Tutorials (e.g. Tools, Forums, Freebies, Business, etc.). Instead of being able to quickly drill down through the appropriate heirarchy, I am forced to scroll through the scores of folders displayed in the expanded menu, many of which have identical names, but different subfolders, to locate the one in which I want to place the new link. Not to put too fine a point on it, but this, my friends, was a Dumb Move of the First Order.
9. Finally, just plain flaky, buggy behavior--title bar and whole sections of the interface missing; tabs invisible with little flickering icons, missing images in Web pages, the Home/RSS/etc. toolbar displaying completely outside the IE interface, in the upper-left corner of the screen, etc. (seriously; I have screenshots if you're interested.)
There are admittedly some issues here which relate to personal preference, but after all, that is what we have been led to expect by prior experience. And there are definite stability and performance problems which need to be addressed. I suggest you reconsider calling this the release version and consider it a beta until you have addressed these issues.
Correct me if I'm wrong......
by Maggie6243 - 11/1/06 7:27 AM In reply to: IE7 UI, Stability, and Performance Issues by temuchenI insatalled IE7 and really liked it. It seemed to be faster than IE6. The problem was, some of my websites were not compatable (the same in FF)with IE7. From what I've read and heard, the websites are responsible for upgrading their software to become compatible with IE7,or FF, or any other browser. So shouldn't we be blaming the websites that haven't bothered to become complient, instead of blaming IE7? I would really like to know.....Maggie
Re: Correct me if I'm wrong...
by temuchen - 11/1/06 7:53 AM In reply to: Correct me if I'm wrong...... by Maggie6243"I insatalled IE7 and really liked it. It seemed to be faster than IE6. The problem was, some of my websites were not compatable (the same in FF)with IE7. From what I've read and heard, the websites are responsible for upgrading their software to become compatible with IE7,or FF, or any other browser. So shouldn't we be blaming the websites that haven't bothered to become complient, instead of blaming IE7? I would really like to know.....Maggie"
Well, yes and no, Maggie. First, many well-written sites are themselves fully standards-compliant; it is the various broswers which have more or less compliance with Web standards as embodied by W3C recommendations, with (currently) Opera 9.0.2 generally acknowledged as hewing most closely to standards in all areas.
Yes, once a browser has been available in a stable (i.e., predictable) form for some time, Web developers will have time to work out the issues which exist with that browser and find workarounds--CSS Hacks, DOM tricks, etc. IE7 has not been out as a final release (you don't want to create a workaround for an issue which may not exist beyond beta) long enough for this to happen.
On the "no" side, Microsoft was fully aware of their problems with standards compliance (particularly WRT the box model), as well as with the hacks and workarounds which exist to get around them. I believe they might have done more at their end to prevent sites which were working just fine, thank you, from being broken by the changes to IE. Not everything can be accounted for, true, when IE was so drastically non-compliant previously that many changes had to be made to try to bring it closer to compliance. Still, just as IE6 provided the ability to switch between "quirks mode" and compliance mode, MS could have provided some kind of switching capability to permit site developers to signal IE to use "IE6 mode" while they are learning how to adapt their current pages to IE's new characteristics.
Problems
by antonaa - 11/6/06 3:00 AM In reply to: IE7 UI, Stability, and Performance Issues by temuchen3,4,5,7,8,9 are all Problems, not Issues.
You might have issues with some of the problems, but 'issues' are not problems. Problems are Problems and not issues. As a Yorkshire man would say "Let's call a Spade a Spade".
Internet explorer 7 always starts on the addon disable mode
by vrajku - 11/1/06 6:53 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
Everytime I click on new explorer, it beeps saying that addons are disabled and the task bar item to enable addons is greyed out and there is no way I can enable add ons. This is very disappointing
It Only Looks Nicer! We waited all this time for this?
by REACHMEBRIDG - 11/1/06 7:06 AM In reply to: Internet explorer 7 always starts on the addon disable mode by vrajkuGo back to eplorer 6! The 7 looks nicer but its not anything like fast or user friendly. The anti-fishing thing drives me crazy. Sorry Microsoft you could of done alot better for all the time we users waited. Just unistalled 7 and just use your IE6 again is my advice! Good Luck The C.
IE7 explorer problem solved
by vrajku - 11/5/06 10:10 AM In reply to: Internet explorer 7 always starts on the addon disable mode by vrajkuWhen I re installed IE7 explorer from yahoo where it says Get IE7 now - I no longer get the error msg that the addons are disabled and the manage addon icon is also no longer greyed. But I got this to work after several re installation processes which is still a headache. They should have debugged this software properly before releasing
IE 7
by booneyrat - 11/1/06 7:06 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
I installed IE 7 and it lost all my internet info. It made such a mess out of my computer I had to use system restore ( Windows XP ) . I will never download anything from MS again until I know 100% if it is kosher or not. If some of us ran our business like MS does thier software, we would soon go broke. My next systems will be using Apple or Linux.
IE 7?? Looks good is all!
by REACHMEBRIDG - 11/1/06 7:15 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
We waited to long for nothing but good looks! I will keep my IE 6 until IE 8 comes out! 
like/dislike explorer 7
by bushemi - 11/1/06 7:15 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
Like the look, the multi page opening etc. dislike it interferes with my internet based program for business. They need to write some updates for it to work properly.
Microsoft needs more features and more security
by whatamitnick - 11/1/06 7:16 AM In reply to: What do you like/dislike about Internet Explorer 7? by John.Wilkinson
I downloaded the new version 7 the day it was released and immediately I missed my Seamonkey. Mozilla and Opera are more feature rich and more stable. Stability is still my biggest beef with Internet Explorer 7. I had it installed for about 4 days and suddenly I was bombarded with trojans and adware and attempted hijacks of my system.
I uninstalled version 7 and reinstalled the old version six and went back to the Seamonkey project. The problems then disappeared. Just connecting to the internet with that browser opens you up to too many threats. Granted any browser on the Windows OS is vulnerable, but some are better than others. Windows is vulnerable so I guess ultimately I can't expect any browser that is integrated into the OS to fair any better.
I was hoping with Vista things might change, that Microsoft would drop its flawed coding and start fresh with something new and more stable. But for compatibility they stuck with the same old mistakes.
We are not in a computer ignorant age, we can adapt even if it is not easy. If Microsoft changes and makes a completely new OS, eventually it would catch on. I know most people like myself would certainly welcome it. Windows needs to go back to the drawing board and come up with software that isn't as easy to hack.
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