Community Newsletter: Q&A: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does?
- 10/26/06 4:23 PM
Ghost vs XXCopy - save $50
by cesareDH - 10/28/06 10:08 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy36.htm
This is a rather long article but well worth the read.
XXCOPY not the answer
by ahaf55 - 10/29/06 1:17 PM In reply to: Ghost vs XXCopy - save $50 by cesareDHWhile XXCOPY seems like a nice utility, based on this article it will NOT provide the answer needed unless you are still running Win9X or WinME (unlikely)
Quote from that article:
"XXCOPY has never been designed for and will never be made for disk imaging. It happens to work great when one wants to make a bootable system disk for Win9x/ME.
As of this writing, we do not have a similar recipe for making a bootable WinNT/2K/XP disk using only XXCOPY."
Check your machine of the key to got the BIOS page .
by raykaczmarek - 10/28/06 11:11 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
''To restore the system it is necessary to use the bootable DVD. .......You can check this setting by pressing the 'Del' key [PC use less key to BIOS set page]at the beginning of the boot process to enter the BIOS configuration utility. Where the 'boot sequence' is located varies greatly by manufacturer but is often in a topic label 'system'. It will usually offer a list of three devices. Each device offers a scroll method to select one of the possible bootable devices in your machine. Before changing anything, note the identification of your current boot hard drive. Then set the optical drive (DVD) in the first position and the boot hard drive in the second. Do not be surprised if it is already set this way. Most manufacturers have some system recovery option on a bootable DVD, so they set up the machine to look there first.''
creating restore cd's
by problemfree - 10/28/06 2:09 PM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Well, you can but you have to purchase a software called ghost or power quest drive image if its a personal pc and not a server. Once you create that cd the newest versions will make it bootable if you tell it and then it will automatically create an image on the cd from your system exactly as it is from that point. Just go through the steps.
Bootable CD/DVD
by cesareDH - 10/28/06 5:26 PM In reply to: creating restore cd's by problemfreeActually, I think you can create a bootable disk and put whatever you want on it.
Make bootable dvd
by blainekehl - 10/29/06 1:05 PM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
It is possible to do this fairly easily, as long as you are not trying to make a hardware independent restore disk. It's easy to make a restore disk as long as you use it on identical hardware. Here's what I do.
Once you get the OS and programs installed the way you want. Clean out all your temp files, internet history, cookies, etc. I always like to run CCleaner, Regcleaner and do a defrag.
Then I boot to Ghost 8.0 and take an image. I like Ghost 8.0 because it always seems to work. I start with command line and use switches that split the image into 650MB chunks so they can be placed on CDRom and exclude files like pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys. I like to dump the image to a second hard drive installed in the machine, even if it's only in there while I am imaging it, it works really fast.
Once the image is done then go to Nightowl's Guide to Creating Bootable CD/DVD's (http://nightowl.radified.com/bootcd/bootcdintro.html).
Create yourself a bootable DVD with the Nightowl files, ghost.exe and your image files. That's it.
It is possible to create a hardware independent image but it requires creating a sysprep file with all conceivable storage drivers on it. We did it at work but it was nasty.
I am happy to give more info on this process if anyone wants it.
Need Information
by Gaillydia - 10/15/08 3:27 AM In reply to: Make bootable dvd by blainekehlSuppose i take a ghost of the system and install it onto another machine (with same hardware), it's like a copy and paste of the files present.
But is there any way in which i take the ghost of the entire system and install it on a dummy machine?
This should be capable of partitioning the drives, restoring the contents back in the respective drives etc...Basically i need the entire system up and working.
Right now am using Nortan Ghost 2003.
Please help.
Less like a backup, more like an OS
by N3MIS1S - 10/29/06 1:24 PM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I've noticed most of the posts have been in relation to back ups and imaging existing drives.
To answer the original persons post here is all the information you need to build your own bootable disk; and install any applications you want!
http://www.nliteos.com/
Not going into details, but everything you need is there, questions and tips in the forums.
Good luck! 
Restore CD
by steve.coult - 10/29/06 1:32 PM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have been following this topic and i have read from a few people that it is possible to make a resore CD or DVD with norton ghost.
I am at the moment using Norton Ghost V10 and find this is the most stable of all the ghost programs i have used.
I can make a full image copy to both an extarnal hard drive and DVD's and i can restore from ether of the two media, but i first have to boot from the Ghost system cd then select the restore i want.
But i appears i can make a boot cd with the norton program alread on the boot cd.
Can someone pleaser tell me how to do this as the only one i can get to work is with the system disk first.
{Please help if you can)
Now I'm confused
by Jauchart - 10/29/06 6:23 PM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
OK, I thought I understood the original article, but now after all the responses/disagreements, I'm not so sure. My computer is now about two years old and is starting to develop some quirks. It is time to F-disk it and reinstall everything from the OS up. I don't have an image, so this time I'm going to have to do it the hard way, but I want to simplify the process so that in the future I can do this every year or so.
I want to reinstall my OS and all software applications (Office, Photoshop, etc), then create an image of that. What is the best/easiest way to do that so that in a year I can just drop in my back-up DVD and come out with a clean installation of myu OS and all applications?
Can someone proposed a good method for us non-techies?
Thanks
Norton Ghost
by steve.coult - 10/30/06 1:05 AM In reply to: Now I'm confused by JauchartI do just what you asked for and i use Noton Ghost V10 this works very well and i have had no problems at all. I make Bakups of my entire sytem OS and aplications and can restore my computer back to the time whan i made the backup.
The only problem i have is that you have to boot from the Ghost program cd. i woud like to learn how to boot from the backup DVD without having to use the Ghost program CD i would be a lot simpler. But Ghost V10 does work weel for me.
All Geek To Me
by embr0 - 10/30/06 12:09 PM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Since I don't have a degree in anything computer I just don't understand half of what was posted here. Is there not a way a neophyte computer dummy can do this?? I do have a program called Pinnacle that was in a Suite with Word Perfect and it has a backup ''something'' in it. Is this something I would be able to use, or would I be wasting my time?
And if so, do I need to call the Geek Squad because this is all above my head??
Thanks,
jeanette
WHAT IS THE HOOPLA ABOUT.
by newerawisp - 11/1/06 12:19 PM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
All the computers come with the restore option built in. All you do is to use the system to set up a restore point like a a day before or a week before or use a previously set up restore point and click on restore buttons. You can even undo this restore if it does not work out. Just look into the options you have. You'll be surprised with you can do without using a CD. I accidently deleted a file necessary to access my internet service. All I did was to update my Microsoft windows and the update automatically provided this file.
It does every thing accept to save your system from viruses and worms for which you have to discard your internet delivery system and redevelop it as I discuss it briefly in my profile.
Even the IE 7 browser would not save you from the viruses. It would only prevent you from using the services that need the opening of new winows that would now be considered pop ups but were not considered as such by older version IE.
Read the topic...
by scootertrashtx - 11/1/06 3:57 PM In reply to: WHAT IS THE HOOPLA ABOUT. by newerawispIt's about a restore disk, like the factory restore disk included with new computer purchases. You're missing the point...
There's a Lack of Understand....
by cesareDH - 11/1/06 4:19 PM In reply to: WHAT IS THE HOOPLA ABOUT. by newerawispthe subject. He should've gone back and followed the discussion a little bit before stating something that everyone already knows.
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