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Community Newsletter: Q&A: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does?
- 10/26/06 4:23 PM
Two partitions, one for data,
by clamoreaux - 10/27/06 6:06 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Sounds like a good idea. I had that on my old computer. And on the ones before that. But when I tried to create a D: partition on my C: drive of my new computer, the Partitiom Magic program apparently became a disk mangler and I can no longer reboot my computer, even in safe mode.
My email to PM (Symantec) tech service remains unanswered after a week.
The PM notes said to make a backup before applying the program. I tried to do that, but the BU file would be 12 gig and my Win XP backup program stopped after backing up only a 4 gig file. Apparently, FAT32 will not allow files larger than 4 gig.
Can not reboot...
by scootertrashtx - 10/27/06 6:37 AM In reply to: Two partitions, one for data, by clamoreauxTry using a Windows 98 start up disk, boot to prompt, run 'scan disk' it should fix it...
If you don't have a 98 start up disk,
Go here for a fix for that problem:
http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=189400897
Backing up and restoring to other hardware doesn't work.
by edge_bit - 10/27/06 6:33 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
If you back up Windows XP to DVD and restore to new hardware after a failure, your backup won't just work.
Some drivers you may need to boot your current system may crash upon bootup when restored to another system. I've had this happen with video card drivers before.
If you use Binary Research's Universal Imaging Utility, it will put your windows files in a state that allows you to make a Norton Ghost or other backup that can be restored on any system, but which must be activated after restore.
http://www.binaryresearch.net/UIU/About.htm
The above URL points to the product. I've used the trial and it works great. They've even personally contacted me about buying it but I haven't replied yet. They seem to be a very nice company.
Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does?
by EYDEN - 10/27/06 6:39 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
you just fill the page but, you didn't answer the question, the should be a program to do that task because dell, gateway, hp and others companies uses.
we know that users have to backup their information, but what we are lookinng is a program to do it.
thanks
eyden
Image Creation Programs
by thinhban101 - 10/28/06 5:43 AM In reply to: Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by EYDENThe programs to use are Symantecs GHOST or Acronis' True Image.
I have used them both.
GHOST is really good and easy now for creating the images that are easily burnable to several CDs or a DVD.
True Image can actually create the restore partition on the hard drive, like Dell and HP have where you have to press either CTRL+F11(Dell) or F10(HP) at the prompt, as well as create a set of restore discs, CDs or DVDs, from that restore partition. True Image is the closest to what the big boys use for their restore. Although Dell uses a Symantec product that restores the system.
XXCOPY - Free
by cesareDH - 10/28/06 9:59 AM In reply to: Image Creation Programs by thinhban101Acronis + Sysprep = Partial Answer
by bfrazier - 10/27/06 6:52 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Wow, Lee should read the question before picking an answer, we all seem to agree on that. I think the question's originator wants to give the client the CD - so an image DVD and a the Acronis Start up CD would be necccessary.
For in shop this works:
Acronis for the backups, SYSPREP - a free microsoft download for reregistering the individual computers with their own SN's. Builds should be close to identical so all the drivers load correctly. This is nice because I can have some programs and basic configurations set up and boom - blow 'em on to an empty or corrupt system. I use an external HD so my answer lacks the "CD" portion of the restore question, but this should be doable for a small load. I'm restoring 10-15 programs etc so the external HD works great for me. After farting around forever with Ghost I really like Acronis too.
How about Drive Image
by nhiep nguyen - 10/28/06 11:38 PM In reply to: Acronis + Sysprep = Partial Answer by bfrazierHow would you compare Acronis to DriveImage?
Making a desktop restore with a dual boot operating system
by Sabremg - 10/27/06 7:49 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Hi,
I have a computer that has dual boot, Win 98 and Win 2000. I need to upgradet the hard drive because I am running out of space. I would like to make the new drive mirror the old drive, if possible. My new hard drive, Seagate, comes with software that works great for single boot but I have not been able to get it to work with dual boot. I was able to setup FAT and NTFS partitions for the two different operating systems but didn't get much farther than that. Any suggestions are much appreciated.
Hardware independency
by Larsd01 - 10/27/06 9:00 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
A lot of messages on this topic mentioned problems with restoring to different hardware. Acronis offers an add-on to its TrueImage Workstation product called "Universal Restore". It promises to address this problem.
(I haven't tried it). You can find out more about Universal restore at http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/products/ATICW/universal-restore.html
restoring on different hardware
by jsee1947 - 10/28/06 5:47 PM In reply to: Hardware independency by Larsd01if you wish to restore a ghost/acronis image on different hardware, goto here and follow the instructions. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q314082
basically, all you need to do is copy the Atapi.sys, Intelide.sys, Pciide.sys, and Pciidex.sys and mergeide.reg to your c:\windows\system32\drivers folder, then run the mergeide.reg file from there.
this will get rid of the blue screen of death when you try to boot on different hardware.
make sure you apply the registry patch as the last thing you do before you make the image, or it mightnt work.
this doesnt seem to work if there is any major hardware changes, but if there similar, it has always worked for me.
hope this will help, i have used it with sucess, but use at your own risk.
nick
Can I make a restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does
by VampireFrost2006 - 10/27/06 9:07 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
ok i have read every thing here and no one realy seems to have answered the question.
what i got from the question is that he wants the person that he sells the system to just to beable to put the DVD in boot from it and have it ask if he wants to restore his system? and then if yes the user doesnt have to do anything more(i.e. the program will partition and format and then restore the system.
some of the bigger companies use nortons ghost and use a script to do this.
i had been useing powerquest products untell nortons took them over.
i have been useing trueimage and the new verson 10 is out but havent gotten it yet.
i have seen trueimage do automated back ups but that might be the more higher end versons, i havent figured out how to do an automated restore with trueimage.
Just something i heard..
by robjean - 10/27/06 9:36 AM In reply to: 10/27/06 Can I make a desktop restore CD/DVD like HP or Dell does? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Hi,
I once heard it said:
A file does NOT exist unless there are 3 copies...
1. The Original File..
2. A Backup of The Original File..
3. A Backup of The Backup of the Original File..
Just out of interest:
I use Norton Ghost & Genie backup manager, for my backups. I use DVDR's and i also use a harddrive fitted in a removable tray, that means i can just plug in an extra harddrive anytime to store my stuff.
Simple & Cheap.
You will need a spare blank hdd to check the backup worked
by scorpious - 10/27/06 11:02 AM In reply to: Just something i heard.. by robjeanAfter making your restore dvd you will need to check that it will actually work,just because verification says it's ok that don't mean jack,this HP machine of mine only allowed one set of recovery cd's-dvd's and a few moths later i used the disks and naturally the last disk failed and could not be read,that said i ended up buying two much larger hdd's and ghosted em then used them inside the comp and am now using the original hdd for emergencies and every so often i install it to update it
(NT) HardDisk Back-up Tray??
by spectrum9 - 10/28/06 3:18 PM In reply to: Just something i heard.. by robjeanDo you have a manufacturer and model number for this beast? Sorry to say, I've never heard of such.
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