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Community Newsletter: Q&A: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital

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Post 91 of 180

recording analog vinyl to hard drive

by allkindafied - 10/20/06 10:07 AM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

howdy i'm in the same boat..i have alot of ideas and questions anyone wanting to continue this discussion via e mail write me at todamax@telus.net thanks dusty akers kelowna b.c. canada

Post 92 of 180

Digitalyzing Old LPīs

by Dlanod5 - 10/20/06 10:23 AM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Kind sir:

SO VERY THANKFULL!!!
Dlanod5
d.a.grez@usa.net

Post 93 of 180

You are incredible

by bluetoad - 10/20/06 10:34 AM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Last night I ordered the USBTurntable and this morning you provided the whys and how toos. Amazing propitious luck! Thank you so much. You are Gurus!

Post 94 of 180

Easy Solution

by embr0 - 10/20/06 11:38 AM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I would take the easy way out. There is now a $400.00 solution. It is made by TEAC, comes as one component.....play record make cd! Can't get much easier than that....and $400.00 isn't much to get rid of the headaches of a sound system, turntable, in, out, computer, etc.

Post 95 of 180

Gawd! Not TEAC!

by Marysue - 10/20/06 11:57 AM In reply to: Easy Solution by embr0

I tried that! Some glue from inside the workings melted on my good CDs and ruined them. The cassette part stuck on the record side, as if it were a car tire with a flat side. I sent it back ---and I had to do it on my own expense, and insure the unit at my expense, as well! They sent it right back, with nothing fixed. The same problems occurred. I phoned them about all this and they were rude as hell, and never reimbursed me for my ruined CDs. My advice is: Don't buy a damn thing form TEAC unless it's for someone you hate.

Post 96 of 180

Downloading digital copies

by smvanbru - 10/20/06 11:56 AM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

First, let me make it clear that I believe music piracy is wrong, what ever the court's current interpretation of the laws may be in your country.

That said, I believe there are legitimate reasons to download music (or movies for that matter) from pirate sites. This is one of them. If you own the record or tape, and want a digital version, the easiest way to get a clean copy is by downloading it. If someone else has already done the work of converting their record, and you own the record, just download the one they converted. So long as you keep your original (the record, tape, video tape, 8-track, etc.), you retain a license to the recorded media as far as I can tell.

Post 97 of 180

Vinil and tape to CD/DVD

by Raimundinho Ferreira - 10/20/06 12:07 PM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Congratulations, Barry W.
I have a lot of vinil recordings and tapes (k7 and VHS) and I have transformed it in digital records.
I use also AUDIOGRABBER to capture the audio signal from my pick-up RCA through my receiver Sansui. And I use, too, a tape-deck Marantz to k7 and VCR JVC to VHS. My digital records are wonderful, but I use a sound board Creative and a video board capture ATI.
As you told, this work spend a lot of time, but, if us have time, it's useful.
After sound captured by Audiograbber it's necessary to use Sound Forge to clean it, because vinil sound is plenty of crackle and clicks.
My dear Barry, your explanation is very good. One more time I congratulate you.

Hug

Little World

Post 98 of 180

This may save you some money...

by Tom_SF - 10/20/06 12:28 PM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I transfered vinyl to CD-R this way (without a computer). First, I'm assuming you already have a turntable set-up, therefore, the only other thing you'll need (unless you use a separate EQ for sound-shaping) is a stand-alone CD-R recorder. You'll also need some music CD-R's and CD-RW's.

What I do is clean the record and stylus and set the analog levels on the recorder so that the levels are at 100% by the time I turn them up from the time I start the record. This is accomplished easier if you're using an equalizer.

I cue-up each song to record on a CD-RW and start the turntable with the recorder's levels down. Then when I start the record, I start the recorder and turn-up the level control all the way a split-second before the record starts and make sure to dump it out and stop it when the song is over. This is where use of the CD-RW comes in just in case you screw-up....

After I have each song done, I use a DVD player to dub each song to the recorder using a CD-R for the final recording. After that, it's up to you whether you want to put the song on your computer or not. That would come in handy if you intend to make new CD's since it would save a lot of time compared to using the stand-alone machine every time you want to record vinyl.

Post 99 of 180

USB Turntable

by vuturistic - 10/20/06 12:41 PM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I recently purchased a USB turntable and have found this to be an easy, straightforward and relatively inexpensive way to convert my 500+ vinyls to digital. The process is simple and with a bit of experimentation, the solution that works best for me is as follows:

I purchased a TEAC GF-350 for approximately $200. I tried the connecting-directly-to-the-computer routine and found it both expensive and complicated and the wiring was, well, messy. The TEAC is a simple box player (like the old phonographs with built-in speakers. The lid opens to reveal a 3-speed turntable. On the front of the box is an AM/FM radio and a CD/RW drive with button controls. There is an auxillary input jack on the back to connect a tape deck for reel-to-reel, cassette and 8-track.

To Record:

1) Power on the player/recorder. Then,
2) place a record on the turntable.
3) Next insert a CD-R in the CD drive. (CD-R is recommended by TEAC for best results--the read/write kind may not be compatible with other equipment)
4) Next press the red RECORD button. The readout display will change to indicate track number [1] and start time [00:00].
5) Gently lift the tone arm off its rest and place the needle on the record (make sure beforehand you have the correct speed by adjusting the small black lever at the right near the base of the tone armature).
6) As soon as the record starts, press the PLAY button. The start time indicator will not begin counting. (If you want each song (record band) to be a separate track on the CD, you will have to do this manually by pressing the Track Increment button on the front panel of the player/recorder.) At the end of side one on the record, you can press the PAUSE button or wait and the player/recorder will automatically pause and increment the track number to the next track number on the CD.
7) Flip the record over and repeat steps 3 thru 6.

You can fit approximately two LPs per CD or about 20 45s. Manually incrementing the tracks is a bit tedious so if you have the patience to sit by the machine and press the Track Increment button every few minutes, you can do this but it does require some patience and freedom from distractions. What I usually do is begin the recording and convert one whole side of the record to a single track and later transfer the CD track to the computer then use music editing software like Cool Edit or something similar to break the songs into separate tracks. While the recording is going on, I take the record jacket and scan it into the computer so I can have the original art work (and the related jacket text) to go with the digital albums. (I sometimes print out a jewel case cover for the finished CD.) Of course, it goes without saying that the faster the processor, larger memory and large capacity hard drive space you have, the better.

I have really spent more than a few minutes on each song. I was amazed at the clarity of many songs after the TEAC converted the analog to digital. Some records have a lot more hissing, popping, etc. inherent in vinyls but for my purposes, the occasional hiss or pop was part of the nostalgia of the record age. Occasionally some recordings were so bad I had to do a bit of digital enhancement to make listening to the recording more pleasant. (Usually records that had a lot of wear and tear and are very old.) I found some old 78s that my mother made in the late forties when she studied voice and piano. Those I spend a lot of time on (several hours on some that were badly degraded) to fix them up. I am making them into CDs as Christmas gifts for my family this year. That was my motivation for making the purchase as my mother passed away three days after Christmas three years ago. That makes this machine priceless to me. But really, it turned out to work far better with better results than I had thought possible and I am very pleased with my purchase. I've converted all my 45s and approximately 60 albums in less than a month in my spare time. I thought it would take years and I only planned to transfer a few select albums and songs. Now I am planning to convert my entire vinyl library and all my cassette tapes as well.

Good luck to all of you with your conversions.

Post 100 of 180

conversion from records and cassettes

by avbfree - 10/20/06 12:51 PM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I use EXPstudio and a jumper wire (from radio shack) from headset plugin to mic plugin.
the sound quality isn't perfect but it is pretty good

Post 101 of 180

"Old School Turntable

by seahawkdan - 10/20/06 12:58 PM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I'm still looking into doing this for my record collection as well. However, I have an "old school" radio shack turntable which does not have any output jacks, and my stereo receiver was built back when Thomas Edison was a pup! I'm guessing I need to spend some time (and money!) and update/modify my stereo system before I try this. Correct?

Dan Boone

Post 102 of 180

VHS movies to DVD

by domna2 - 10/20/06 1:04 PM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I want to know if I can transfer my VHS movie tapes to DVD's using my burner on my computer.

Thanks

Dave

Post 103 of 180

YES, With Pinnacle Editing Software

by cesareDH - 10/20/06 4:00 PM In reply to: VHS movies to DVD by domna2

Yes you can with a Video Capture device, "DAZZLE", which comes with the Pinnacle editing software. TigerDirect has a good price on DAZZLE and get's shipped right now. Stay away from ADS TECH because their support is virtually non-existant. Pinnacle's support is great.
I would recommend using an S-Video cable (in place of the yellow video cable) along with your red & white audio cables to hook up to your Video Capture device, which hooks to USB2 on your computer. The S-Video allows about twice the video resolution during the transfer from VCR to the computer as does the yellow cable.
There's other editing software out there but Pinnacle is bundled with DAZZLE.

Post 104 of 180

converttion

by anicas44 - 10/20/06 1:16 PM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I used to convert vynels and tapes to digital using Nero. It's very slow to separate the tracks eve if you tell the program to separate the tracks, it fail all the time.
I bought an "ADS instant music", the cheapest one. It is more efficient than Nero, for separation of tracks, volume. With that little machine I work much faster; 2, 3 time faster.
If you get a good "ADS instan music", about US$250, you can record video tapes too.
Good luck

Post 105 of 180

converting tapes to CD's

by Haroldjohn - 10/20/06 1:20 PM In reply to: 10/20/06 Converting old vinyl records and tapes to digital by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

You did a great job on vinyl but I didn't find anything about tapes.
Harold Johnson

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