Thanks for this list!
Bummer.
I asked for an iPod for Christmas, and received one, only to find out it would not play free audiobooks downloaded from my library, which was the main reason I wanted one.
I have since found two players that work for both netlibrary books and the Michigan Library Consortium:
Creative Zen Jukebox Xtra, which you might be able to buy through eBay for about $100, and it holds 40gigs but it's bulky. It does do bookmarking.
Rio Chiba - I bought a reconditioned 256 meg one on eBay for about $50. The display cover is scratched, but it's usable. The capacity is large enough for Pride and Prejudice unabridged (and nothing else). It is very lightweight, and runs for many hours on a single AAA battery. It has pause, resume, and bookmarks. I put it on pause, then set the bookmark, then power off and it works every time. I followed advice I read somewhere, and use Windows Media Player (10), not the supplied Rio software, to transfer the book files to the Rio. I still haven't got the procedure down pat - it's sure not as easy as dragging files - but I do eventually get it to work. I did a firmware update as well. And the Chiba also has an FM tuner with presets! AND you're supposed to be able to add memory on an SD card - up to 1 gig, though I haven't tried it on mine. All in all, for my purposes and the money I spent, I'd give this device a "best buy".
I hope this helps. I don't know why mp3 manufacturers don't provide better information about the audiobook capabilities of their players.
I have a Chiba too and find it awesome as well. But the reason I replied is because I have put a 1 gig sd card in mine and it works seemlessly, but it uses more battery that way...so use rechargable NiMH Batteries!
Here's the answer to everyones question about the correct player for NetLibrary audio books. These are the files that are just one track of 10 to 20 hours. I went through many MP3's before finding the one that you could pause the book, and then come back to the exact spot. The player is the Samsung YP-F1 XB. This tiny little player will allow you to download the NetLibrary book from Windows Media Player easily. When you put the book into Pause mode, the player will shut off after a certain amount of time (which you can choose). Then, when you start it up again, the player will return to that same spot. It doesn't have Bookmarking, but the Pause feature works great. You can also use the FM tuner without upsetting your place in your audio book. I tried the Sansa M200 from
Sandisk, and the pause feature worked well, but you couldn't go to FM without resetting your audio book back to zero. This Samsung is great - it has internal batteries that charge from your computer's USB, so you don't have to worry about where your place will be on the audio book if you replace a battery. I hope this helps!
Thanks so much for your recommendation. It's been a nightmare trying to find the right mp3 (for recorded books) for me and it looks like this may be the one, especially since it also has an FM recorder AND voice recording (at least that's what the spec sheet says - have you tried either of those?). Also, it's affordable and in-stock at Circuit City - think I'll go get one now - thanks!
Some books from netlibrary are 27 or more hours long. Is the half gig memory on the YP-F1-X going to be enough? Can you download only part of the book from your computer, erase and then load up the other half?
There is a larger capacity Samsung model - I don't know the model number. It should work the same as the other one, just with a 1 gig memory.
Sometimes I like to scroll back and relisten to a section. How convienent is that with this model?
When you set up the device, you can set the search speed and the skip interval. Just recently, I accidentally returned to the start of a 30 hour audio book. I was able to return to the place very easily. This player will not give you a "real time" readout - it always reads "00.00". But you can find your place if you lose it. The resume function always works for me. I hope this helps.
Both my 5Gb Zen Micro and my 512Kb Zen Nano (very affordable) do that. In fact, you don't have to pause. Just shut down in the middle of a file and it starts there on startup. The Zen Micro includes bookmarking, so you can jump to some other file or the radio or recorder and come back later.
Hi, thanks for the info on the Samsung. Have you listened to many ebooks on it and does it resume even several hours into the story? I have an iRiver that will only resume up to the first 4 hours of story, once I go beyond that, it resumes at some point earlier. Very frustrating...
I love my little Samsung MP3 player. Anywhere in a NetLibrary download, I can hit pause, then shut it down, and the file will open up at the same point. I must tell you that there is not a time readout on my player - it always reads 00:00, but I've tried many players before finally finding this one. It will even let me pause an audiobook, and go to the FM radio, and then go back to the audiobook. The Sansa MP3 player did not allow me to do that - it would reset the audiobook to the beginning! MP3 player makers: When are you going to start telling us that your new model is NETLIBRARY compatible?
I have been trying to find a way to use Netlibrary with an iriver T30 for over 7 months and I wish I had found this discussion earlier. The iriver company was not helpful. I have come to believe that the manufacturers of the hardware and the purveyors of the subscription services do not want us to figure this out. I have finally done it, but it is also complicated. It involves two transfers of the files. Both involve third party software and the software manufacturers assure that their processes are legal (or I wouldn't do it). I would be happy to share it, but it is a rather lengthy write up. I am going to copy it here. If CNET does not approve, I would be happy to send it to private e-mails or find another way to post it.
Sequence for Transferring NetLibrary Books to Segmented MP3 Format
Software Needed
1. The best way to download software is via CNET Download; it’s safer.
2. Search CNET Download for Tunebite and download and purchase the Tunebite Premium at $19.90.
3. Search CNET Download for Total Recorder and download and purchase the Professional version at $39.95.
4. Windows Media Player is usually resident on Window’s PCs. Version 9 works best.
Tunebite
1. Open Tunebite; Open Options
2. On High Speed Digital Dubbing tab, select <4X>
3. On File Format tab, select <MP 3>; close Options
4. Open downloaded WMA file into Tunebite.
5. Hit GO; leave computer alone. Tunebite
will stop recoding if another program is
active.
Total Recorder
1. Open Total Recorder; Open Options, click <Settings>.
2. Select <Playback>; beside Playback device, select <Playback through Total Recorder>.
3. Select <Open/Save>; under <Default Open/Save As folder>, select <This Folder> and browse to locate preferred folder—one that is easy to find.
4. Select <Spilt>. Click in box before <Split Mode>. At File Name Generation Rule, select <Rules not using file tag>; click <Conditions>; check these boxes: <for each new sound format> and <every <select 60> minutes of recording>
5. Select <Formats>; highlight ,MP 3>; be sure <Default codec> is the selected encoding program.
6. Close Total Recorder configuration.
7. To start recoding, click <File>, <Open>, and open the copy of the book file that has been ‘washed” through Tunebite.
8. Click <Play/Record>, click <Record>.
9. You should see activity both in Total Recorder and WMP.
10. When the recording is complete, close Total Recorder, As it shuts down, it will display a dialog box showing the writing of the files; this will take a coupe of minutes.
Windows Media Player
1. Open WMP.
2. Drag the book file from Windows Explorer to the Play list column in WMP.
3. At the bottom, click the <Play> icon. You should see activity both in Total Recorder and WMP.
4. When the recording is complete, the activity will stop.
Managing Files
1. When the recoding is complete, go to Windows Explorer and locate the files.
2. Rename each of the files by putting numbers in sequence at the beginning of each. This aids in playing the sequentially.
Loading MP 3 Player
1. Drag the renamed book files to Windows Media Player Sync column.
2. Follow syncing directions for your player.
On the Tunebite site it does not list protected WMA audiobook files as an option for converting to unprotected files. So, did you find that protected WMA audiobook files would convert to MP3, ACC, WMA unprotected?
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