Games & gear: Wii vs Xbox360 vs Ps3 2
I DISAGREE!!!!!
by brinda1 - 1/3/07 12:21 AM In reply to: I couldnt disagree more by GamerhenryWhere are you getting your info from?? The 360 has many sales already. It will be the best system out there. Followed by the Wii which I agree with you. But the 360 is much more than what you think it is. It shouln't have waited..That says that it is a superior system. Look, the XBOX came our a year later than PS2 and the 360 came out a year earlier than the PS3. If that doesn't tell you something then I don't know what is. The 360 is the best system out, by far!! It is in the middle of the price range and includes awesome and organized XBOX LIVE unlike the sluggish and unorganized Sony online. I guess it's as far as "you're" concerned that 360 is out of the race, because the rest of us gamers know that the 360 and the Wii are the best two systems out there. The PS3 is too expensive and the only thing it has to offer is the Blu-ray which right now....is useless. You can easily fit a game into a 45MB disc, you don't need hundreds of them.
This Conversation Is Pointless Right Now
by MusketeerX - 2/1/07 7:19 AM In reply to: I DISAGREE!!!!! by brinda1As it goes, the Wii is kicking everyone's butt. Nintendo is cranking them out as fast as they can and there are still shortages. Analysts are already predicting the Wii to surpass 360's sales by the end of the year, depsite the year head start microsoft had. Playstation 3 is drowning and dragging Sony down with it.
Nintendo hit a niche market that the others can't and have not touched. Third party developers are starting to back Big N because of it. This generations console war goes to Wii hand down.
nintendo !
by nintendorox - 3/10/07 8:44 PM In reply to: I DISAGREE!!!!! by brinda1Ok im going to start with xbox 360 xbox is a system that is generly a pretty powerful machine though all that i think of an xbox is a repeat of a playstation
PLAYSTATION: playstation 3 has great graphics but it is just plain BORIINNGG !!
NINTENDO !: Nintendo is by fare the best in my view ok lets start from the basics ok .. the wii menu is a menu that has mii chanel, forcarst chanel, news chanel, wii shop chanel, everyone votes chanel, internet chanel, photo chanel. like the playstation 3 you can put the previous games from the old consol in it BUT !!! Wii allows you to download every past consol games with WII POINTS !
Now lets get to the controler! the wii controler is the wii best part about the wii meaning you can have more interation with the game example: racing movin the remote just like a steering wheel but thats not the most graetest example. nintendo wii also has wifi!
as gamming "nerd i sagest that you take my point of view ! for all you peole out there i rest my case !!
Wii Remote more than motion sensing
by Bytemaster - 10/17/06 7:12 PM In reply to: Wii vs Xbox360 vs Ps3 2 by LoktoarOnly a few facts about Nintendo that you didn't seem to take into account:
1. The Remote itself has motion sensing via gyroscopic controls as well as "pointer" features via infrared. In addition, it features a built-in speaker, rumble, and the ability to plug in add-ons. (I discount the flash memory, because I am not sure how successful that feature will be).
2. The add-ons for the remote, such as the included Nunchuck controller. The combination of the remote and the Nunchuck (which also has gyroscopic motion control itself) is supposedly going to make first-person shooter games much easier to play and may be able to rival the controls on PC. This, of course, remains to be seen.
3. While I agree there are a lot of clone games and sequels to old games initially for the Wii, the same is true of other systems. In fact, most of the games that you mention for the 360 are sequels. (Perfect Dark Zero, Halo 3, etc). And, just because a game is a sequel, should not discount it. Almost all Zelda games are rated to be some of the best around. I don't see anyone discounting Halo 3 because it is a sequel, or the new Gran Tarismo, for that matter.
4. Graphics. One thing that I never see mentioned anywhere is there are two ways to measure graphics... in the resolution and quality of the images themselves, or the smoothness of the animation. Personally, I always prefer smoothness to resolution, which is one reason I have preferred systems such as the GameCube to the others. Often, the texture detail is less, but the animation is so smooth that you get more engrossed in the game... but that has been my experience. In other words, I don't give anyone a point for Hi-Def if they can't keep the animation smooth. And you can be about 1/4th as powerful with everything else being equal if you are running in 480p instead of 1080p and still have the game performing just as well. (doubling width and hight quadruples the amount of data needing to be processed).
But finally, I would not discount any systems, PS3, Xbox360, or Wii until we have had our hands (and spent some time) with all three. I, unfortunately, have not had the opportunity to spend time with a 360 yet other than the in-store demo, but it does appear to be a good system. I think everyone just needs to sit down and play, then decide which system you want. Of course, the answer "all 3" is always nice, if you can afford it!
wii is only the controller
by Loktoar - 10/19/06 3:58 PM In reply to: Wii Remote more than motion sensing by BytemasterThe wiimote is the onlything that sets the wii apart form everything else.
The differnce between halo 3 and the new mario, is that halo 3 is only the 3rd game in the series, while the new mario and zelda are like the 500th. Zelda has been rated extremely well? by who? Nintendo gamers. Look, zelda follows the same storyline every time. Gannadorf comes back, you go to find the master sword, you beat him. It repeats itself in every game, as does mario. Sort of like power ranges, but not as bad.
I think the wiimote will be good for fps's because it will probably tire your hand out after a while. I also heard that redsteels ais have the IQ of a neanderthal, so I wont be too happy about playing it. Id rather play COD 2 which has the smartest FPS AI's to date. A level is never the same twice because the Ai's change strategy depending on the situation.
I also think we need to have some time to play with them. But the wii is at a huge dissadvantage since all ps3, 360, and pc gamers dont count it as a real gaming machine (which it isnt). That hurts its rep badly in the gaming world.
It is also the games
by Bytemaster - 10/20/06 4:06 PM In reply to: wii is only the controller by LoktoarI kind of disagree with you on the Zelda storyline issue. Yes, there are some common elements among all of them, but for the most part, I believe the story line is quite different. But we can agree to disagree.
I have not played COD2 or Red Steel, primarily because FPS is not my favorite type of game, but I do know that COD3 will be a launch title on the Wii, as I believe it is for PS3. I would assume they will both have great AI.
As for the "gaming world", most of the gamers I know are most excited about the Wii over any other system - precisely because they are getting tired of the same old thing. The processing power is definitely not up to par with the other systems, but it is still a big step up from the Game Cube. And, again, since it is limited to 480p, it only needs to be about 1/4th as powerful as the other systems to give about the same gameplay at the lower resolution. I would guess it all depends on what you consider a "gaming" machine.
My suggestion to you would be the Wii60 combo... both a 360 and a Wii. Then, you would get the best of both worlds.
I am pretty sure your mind is made up at this point, but please be sure to report back after you have played with one of the demo machines.
Yeah...good writing!
by brinda1 - 1/3/07 12:24 AM In reply to: Wii Remote more than motion sensing by BytemasterYou're absolutely right bout all of that!! You put up a better argument than I did for sure... The wii is totally cool. I have had the opportunity of playing all 3 systems and the 360 seems to be the best. Has the same graphics as PS3 and better than Wii, runs pretty smooth although it does have a few Glitches here and there(just like PS3) and the price is right!
Hey, thats a bit biast...
by wii-fanboi - 10/17/06 8:39 PM In reply to: Wii vs Xbox360 vs Ps3 2 by LoktoarYou were anti - nintendo/sony
Think of last gen, and this comming gen
Q) What console had the worst graphics
A) ps2
Q) What console was the most innovative last gen.
A) oh, ps2, eyetoy, etc...
And last but not least
Q) who did the best last gen?
A) the ps2!
The funny thing is, is that the graphics of the ps2
Could have been eaten alive, by the gamecube, and the xbox.
funny thing that, that didnt happen...
Look at the ps2 games too.. compare how many games were 3+ from the ps2, and how many were 3+ for the gamecube, you will be amazed.
With the graphics and games for the portable gen, ds, psp.
People predicted that nintendo's handheld market would be much smaller, than it is now
They thought that the ds would be eaten alive, by the psp.
That didnt happen.
about the xbox, most games on that, are also on the PC
Sort of, but who isnt
by Loktoar - 10/19/06 4:09 PM In reply to: Hey, thats a bit biast... by wii-fanboiHey, im anti nintendo and anti ps3, not sony as a whole. Sony is losing ground in all areas (tvs, games, computers, everything) and theyll be out of business by the end of 07 at the rate their stocks have been dropping. The ps3 is an attempt by sony to try to promote blu ray (as was the psp in promoting UMD and memory stick duo) and thats it. Thats all sony is using the ps3 for.
Actually, the GC had the wors graphics even though it was more powerful than the ps2, but the gc didnt use its graphics to the full potential (thats why wii games look like such a big improvment, because they are using the graphics to their full potential to try to make it look like somewhat of an improvement). A lot of xbox games did beat ps2 games in graphics (cant say much for the gc though).
There wasnt much innovation last gen (except for xbox live and a few other exeptions). I never heard anything good about the eyetoy. Dosnt sound interesting though.
Ps3 won last gen, yes. Taht is a fact.
The reason why most xbox games are on pc is because microsoft signs a contract making developers make it for 360 and pc because it is in their financial benefit (for those of you who dont know, microsoft created windows). But mac is better.
true
by Myqe - 11/17/06 6:27 PM In reply to: Hey, thats a bit biast... by wii-fanboiand another thing i play games so i dont have to exercise if i wanted to go outside and throw a football i would do so if i wanted throw a fishing line i would go fishing all i need is a regular joystick with ten buttons Please let the fat people stay fat
Underestimating the Wii
by MusketeerX - 10/17/06 9:13 PM In reply to: Wii vs Xbox360 vs Ps3 2 by LoktoarI think there are many Wii lovers out there that would love to see the better graphics, but the truth is that those same people prefer the innovative and creative games that Nintendo has always brought to the table. Nintendo has years of gaming behind it with numerous household titles that are suitable for everyone: Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Earthbound, Star Fox, Animal crossing, Pokemon, and more.
You combine these type of titles with the new controller and you have a console that everyone can enjoy. Nintendo suffered last gen from lack of third party support. This gen, third parties are lining up around the block to make games for Nintendo. Nintendo is also sheding its ''only for kids'' skin, with the inclusion of more mature games. Godfather is already slated as a title, and GTA is rumored to be announced.
Nintendo is hitting more market than just hardcore games too with family titles. In fact, they are including Wii sports, a game meant to show people of all ages that it is easy to play video games again. Wii sports aside, unique titles like Trauma Center and Wario Ware show great promise in brining in people that are turned off by the ''traditional'' videogame. Innovention has always been Nintendo's Ace up their sleeve and despite some horrible devices *ahem--virtual boy*, they have really brought video games to a new level. Even the Gameboy is still around despite introducing the Nintendo DS, which is outselling Sony and Sony's mother at this point.
The Wii-mote is what is going to bring the hardcore gamers to Nintendo's dinner table. It is also going to have them asking for seconds. Curiosity killed the cat, but at least (in this case) the cat will be happy. The Wiimote has been said by many reviewers to be intuitive and fun.
And finally, why Wii has a great chance of being number one this Gen is because it is an easy purchase for everyone. It is going to be bought by parents for their children that don't want to spend that much money on the x-box or ps3. It is going to be bought by Wii fan boys. It is going to be bought by those that want two next gen systems... No one is going to spend 1500 dollars between the Xbox and PS3. However, they will go and buy an x-box and wii. Or, in the alternative they will buy a PS3 and a Wii. Not only is it going to take its market share for the people that just want one system that is easy on the pocket books. It is also going to have the spotlight for people that want two systems. And most importantly, it is going to be bought by the people who have always wanted to get into videogames, but never wanted to because of the learning cuve. Its price and the gaming philosphy will have them finally seeing their opportunity to see what the videogame craze is all about.
PS3 may have graphics, but Wii has a whole lot more.
You are overestimating it
by Loktoar - 10/21/06 5:05 PM In reply to: Underestimating the Wii by MusketeerXThe only people who are buying this innovative control thing are Nintendo fans. No one else. Nintendo is just saying it will include everyone because it is good attention towards them (its the oldest trick in the book). Plus, they only have 15% of the gaming market so they are trying to expand their market since there is only so much they can sell to 15%. only Zelda, Mario, star fox, animal crossing are all kiddy and overrated. very hardcore gamer I’ve talked to laugh at these games and dissaprove of their continuation. Nintendo needs some new games and not rely soly on their classics. I personally like metroid though.
Third party support for the wii is still relatively low in comparison to the 360 (but ps3 has barely any support). Nintendo is TRYING to shed its "only for kids skin". But it cant. Just look at its game lineup. Most of those games are targeted towards kids. Nintendo has never and never will interest mature gamers (nor will mature gamers have interest in them). They have already made a name for themselves as kiddy and that will stick for life. The godfather has been released for all consoles (and all past gen consoles except the gamecube), so that wont make people want to buy it. GTA will never go to nin because they know it will ever sell on the wii since its audience are people younger than 13. Everyone has their “Nintendo stage”. I had it, and all or most of you had it. This stage is where the only video games you like are made by Nintendo. Most people grow out of this stage by the time their 13, some take a little longer. But eventually, everyone grows out of it. It’s a fact of life. Nin is your “kid stage” and after that you enter “the rest of your life stage”.
The wii will finish the way its 2 predecessors did. In last place.
Wiimote
by Lovethechamp - 10/21/06 10:13 PM In reply to: You are overestimating it by LoktoarI just don't see it as all that "innovative". The motion sensoring is hardly anything new. There have been peripherals for previous consoles that have boasted similar functionality(powerglove, justifier). Also there have been a number of interactive games that you plug directly into the TV that offer similar gameplay. Such games include baseball, football, bowling, and boxing. The baseball game uses an actual bat, the football games uses a football...and so on.
While I do feel that the PS3 controller should have been at least unchanged, I find the the ablility of the new consoles is "under the hood" of the console. As more of the capabilities of the PS3 are revealed by people with debug kits, I find that the true innovation is in that system and it's potential offerings. While many see releasing a more powerful system as a risk due to the BR, the Wii is just as much of a risk if not moreso due to changing something as fundamental as the standard controller interface. That said, hopefully you all will enjoy your Wii's as I will enjoy my PS3.
Wiimote 2
by Loktoar - 10/22/06 8:37 AM In reply to: Wiimote by LovethechampNone of those interactive sports games you mentioned reallt caught on, and I dont think the wiimote will eigther. It will be fun for 2 days and thats it. Nintendo has strayed too far from the flock on this one.
I preffer the standard controller over a totally different unproven system. I saw a vid of the ps3's tilt function ad it had a half a second response time. I think that the wiimote will have smilar problems. I preffer to stick with something that I know works.
I have read that games like oblivion looking as beautiful as it is, isnt even scrathching the surface of the 360's abilities. Immagine the possibilities.
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