MP3 players: Why would anybody buy the New 8GB iPod Nano?
Succinct, accurate assessment
by camanda - 9/15/06 7:21 PM In reply to: Apple grabbed you by the b@lls....... by naterandrewsYou've hit it perfectly! Too bad you can't broadcast that to the world and enlighten prospective iPod buyers to the trap. It isn't just Apple's plan, though. Other manufacturers will follow suit on a smaller scale. But, if consumers could see how they are being manipulated by this industry there might be a move to take control and dictate the terms.
How about individual, yearly single fee access to each media format? Let the buyers determine what path they will take. Only music? Music and video? Free choice! In the Steve Jobs' vision of the future that is akin to anarchy!
That would be great!
by naterandrews - 9/15/06 7:50 PM In reply to: Succinct, accurate assessment by camandaGet unlimited access to which content you chose. Sounds alot like the subscription model that Jobs opposes.
I haven't cracked exactly why he despises that model yet but hope I to soon. (I mean, sure Apple wants more single track downloads, but they don't get much cash per song sold so there must be a solid reason why they oppose it)Although, I agree, such a media plan would be beneficial for all consumers. But Apple doesn't care about their consumer do they?
I sent a letter to Buzz Out Loud the other day also.
I think I've uncovered part of Apple's plans for iTV.
Since it effectively gives them seamless access (and control) over your digital content and your living room.... the next war will be waged on the gaming market.
If you think about it, they essentially control music. Are on their way to controlling the digital distribution of video content. With the newly announced games for the iPod platform you have to wonder.
iPods dont have large enough screens for most to watch a video, let alone play a game. Veronica (Belmont, Buzz out Loud) an avid iPod and Apple fan said she wouldn't buy a game for the iPod as well as other iPodders.
So, why launch games? Because, they want you to get accustomed to the idea so they can place them into your living room. iTV uses the Apple Remote. Apple Remote is modeled after the iPod. Little, if any, learning curve. They can place the games on your iMac, Mac Mini, etc. and stream them to your television set using the iTV and you can play games using that method. Sure, most games available now are rudimentary and not very robust. Wait until the development team gets more titles and experience under their belt. Sure, you can call me crazy but that may be the next "digital frontier" for Apple to control and can do so, without initially directly challenging Sony, Nintendo and the like. "iTV is a media streamer....next week, a game console powered by your already powerful Mac system".
Also, about your "broadcast to the world" comment. Sure. I guess I could post a video on YouTube. But no one would really watch/listen, or even care. Besides, don't most people already "get" Apple's plans? Also, from the stories I've heard about Steve Jobs, I really dont want to get sued, thanks lol
1990's- The iMac era
2000's- The iPod era
2010's- The iTV era
You know what they say about a fool and his money...
by payshunz - 9/17/06 2:27 PM In reply to: Apple grabbed you by the b@lls....... by naterandrews"One quick note which should help bring into alignment, the future plans (or hopes) of Apple. You know the increasingly circulating rumors about the higher quality songs on the iTunes Music Store? Sure, Jobs wants to keep the labels happy with more money. But, umm, better quality means a bigger file..bigger files mean, you need a player with a larger HD........ Get used to that trend, Apple wants to keep the gravy train rolling...."
Your reasoning really only applies to those consumers who are stupid enough to buy something NOT because THEY want it but because they're TOLD they want it. I have no pity nor sympathy for idiots who can't 1) decide for themselves just what they want or need, and 2) can't take responsibility for their mistake of ending up with things they shouldn't have bought in the first place. Your whole rant sounds like you go to bed each night worrying about your phones being tapped, microchips planted in your brain, etc. etc. etc.
As I try to keep up with tech issues, I'm wondering about these 'increasingly circulating rumors' about larger file-sizes. The large size of the aiff format of most songs purchased on CDs is one thing, but mp3s trade a bit of quality for the extreme decrease in size. One of the goals of mp3 and AAC and ogg and whatever new/better/non-standard format Microsoft is working on in trying (in vain) to dominate yet another market (again, in vain) is to make these huge files smaller, not larger. I can't imagine anyone (other than Microsoft) trying to make something consumers won't buy, or trying to make these same consumers BUY this something that they don't want.
I understand what you mean
by CynicalGal - 9/15/06 5:37 PM In reply to: Why would anybody buy the New 8GB iPod Nano? by jprLike you, if I had a choice between the 8gb and a much larger harddrive based mp3 then I'd go with the storage. Myself, I have both a Rio 256mb (with sd card storage) and a Creative Zen Xtra 40gb brick. Sometimes you don't want to tote your entire music collection around, and other times you do.
Why I only consider iPods
by jpr - 9/15/06 8:33 PM In reply to: I understand what you mean by CynicalGalI have been reading the comments, and I see a recurring statement. "Why do you have to get an iPod? Whats wrong with the competitors?"
Well, I would get a Zune or what ever non-apple mp3 is out there BUT I have an iBook. There's no way I can do everything that I do with my mac and my iPod in unison. It would be a big chore to use anything else.
Like I can load pics iPhoto, and upload stuff from iCal, etc..
Anyways, the iPod IMO is ahead of the competition.
well...me!
by marcelomdsc - 9/19/06 11:41 AM In reply to: Why would anybody buy the New 8GB iPod Nano? by jprI ve made a lot of research, and i ended up with those 2 options, but I know I preffer flash memory, as I will use it for sports, specially skiing, secondly my entire music collection is about 1700 songs, so it will fit perfectly fine there.
I really prefer a player that doesnt play video, first of all because it is something i wont use, just for the fact that the screen is to small, besides the new nano is more durable has a 24 h battery life, "scratch resistant" materials, and of course is smaller!
So that is why I m getting it instead of the video one.
Because
by hanighanma - 10/11/06 10:59 AM In reply to: Why would anybody buy the New 8GB iPod Nano? by jprthe nano is really small and is much easier to carry around than the video. People who are not interested in video would need a nano. Personally i like the nano. I dont want a big device. nano is scratch resistant too and has better battery life.
I see alot of ppl in my apartment with Shuffles + lanyards
by ackmondual - 10/11/06 12:38 PM In reply to: Because by hanighanmaApparently, there are casual listeners with no need for HUGE capacities, video, or even LCD displays for that matter. Some of them were in sweats having just came from a workout, but others looked like they just got home from work. Probably listened on the subway. Either way, pocketable doesn't seem to cut it for every1. It's most convenient for them to wear their music players around their neck
Again, altho i would never get any ipod, the Nano does combine the best of both worlds..... Shuffle's small size, less fragile solid state memory while getting the ipod Video's color screen and more capacity to work with.
because...
by marcelomdsc - 10/12/06 1:14 PM In reply to: Because by hanighanmayeah, i actually bought the nano over the video, for those reasons and because i will be skiing soon, and i need small and durable player.
Besides I just started hitiing jumps and rails, I WILL FALL! and the nano is more durable, i m not really intrested in video and the only downside about the nano is that you cant add games (not big deal) and there is no cases for it yet!!!grr
i agree...
by PhilCosby - 10/12/06 7:02 PM In reply to: because... by marcelomdscbecause flash memory is more reliable than the hard drives the video uses. i wish that more players had flash drives with higher capacities. and for all those people who complain about storage space, suck it up and actually switch your content manual :shocked:
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