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Windows XP: Firewire Networking and TCP/IP Issues...

by voyager529 - 10/7/06 9:26 PM
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Firewire Networking and TCP/IP Issues...

by voyager529 - 10/7/06 9:26 PM

Hey CNet!

Having an issue I'm hoping the expertise of those here can help solve my problem. Here it goes...

I have two computers, a desktop and a laptop. I use my desktop primarily for storage (500GB total storage) and burning (2 16x DVD burners). I primarily connect to it through firewire and work on it via TightVNC using my laptop. Recently though, my laptop has been acting funky. The status window shows no IP address or subnet mask (i have them manually configured) at all. But when I go to properties, it has my configurations listed there. So far I have tried:
-ipconfig /release /renew
-disabling/enabling the interface
-disabling/enabling the device
-uninstalling/reinstalling the device
all bearing no fruit.
My wireless and wired connections are working fine, but the last time this happened I had to reformat, which I did last week and would rather not have to do that again. Because it works fine after format, I'm forced to conclude that it's not a hardware malfunction; my firewire card also has a standard firewire chipset so it doesn't require a special driver.
Here's an image of my network properties if it helps.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j14/voyager529/Network.jpg
Thanks in advance for your help!

Joey

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looks to me as if u have a prankster

by ask4anu - 10/7/06 11:47 PM In reply to: Firewire Networking and TCP/IP Issues... by voyager529

twhen you use any network utilitys in microsoft my frist recommendation is to get your network behind a friewall router all routers are not firewalls unless it says built in firewall second you have to use auto ip as when your dns tries to update in manual mode it will retain the same info and dates instead of updating to new LEASE if you dont have a router and u connect your network to your isp network then your network becomes your isps network also and that can lead to a whole host of problems including someone jacking your connection but all you need to do if you are behind a router and the router is set at auto DHCP most routers are defualt like that then your router will update its new lease but your computer will not i recommend that you turn everything back to auto and make sure that you do an ip release and renew after you change your settings when you set your ip address as static and turned on file and printer sharing if you do not know any thing about network security then you will increase your chances of being hacked 100% and because you set your computers address at a static address it causes your computers info and lease to never be changed or renewd it just keeps using the same info and over and over unless your are going to host a web server \game server you should never use a static ip address or file and printer sharing with out knowing security and if you arent behind a router then your network is on your isp network and hacker (a) is enjoying your bandwidth i suggest you do searchs on netwoking on the net to try and understand what you have put your network up against and more then likly some one on your NODE is the culprit if you dont under stand any of the security stuff fom any of your searches then i would take down your network right away before it gets worse then what has happened now and you can fill in the info if u must use STATIC IP ADDRESS
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Points taken, but...

by voyager529 - 10/8/06 6:37 AM In reply to: looks to me as if u have a prankster by ask4anu

They don't really relate to the network at hand here. This is a two-computer network linked directly with a firewire cable. There is no other network connection with the desktop at all, and my internet connections with a laptop are indeed firewalled behind a firewall router (NAT/SPI). ICS on my laptop is disabled entirely. I'll run a virus scan a bit later today, but do you really believe this problem is virus/hacker related? Even if I got hacked/infected, why would it only attack my Firewire network? why not my 10/100 or Wireless link? It seems like a pointless attack as so few people use firewire networks. A reminder to keep an active firewall and updated virus scanner is always appreciated though.


Joey

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Short list.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 10/8/06 6:45 AM In reply to: Points taken, but... by voyager529

1. Is the cable good? They do fail.
2. Does ping work?
3. What does the routing table look like?
4. Firewalls continue to be an issue here. Zone Alarm even when disabled was shown to interfere (why?) I had to uninstall it from time to time.
5. While firewire is there, Microsoft's interest in it is fleeting. You only need to lose a few firewire connected drive contents to learn more.

Fix? Go get a pair of 1000 megabit ethernet cards and a cable. Cost is 30 bucks or less here so that's one fix.

I offer no fix for this one since I've seen it and Microsoft seems to offer lax implementation.

Bob

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Re: Short List

by voyager529 - 10/8/06 12:44 PM In reply to: Short list. by R. Proffitt Moderator

Thanks for your list, to which I've listed my responses...

1. The cable is good. I use it for DV flawlessly.
2. Ping does not work. the interface has no IP address (as is depicted in the picure attached to the original post).
3. it's a direct PC-to-PC connection for the purpose of storage and VNC, nothing more. The desktop rarely, if ever, goes online, and even so it does so via ethernet.
4. Neither computer is running a software firewall. The Windows Firewall service is disabled on both machines and there are no other software firewalls running.
5. Microsoft's lack of interest is why I'm here. I can only listen to the same cue cards treating me like I have no idea what I'm talking about so many times...

I was half thinking of a set of gigabit cards and an ethernet cable, but that's a last resort. I'm more worried that this is a small symptom of a bigger problem that I've been able to fix only by a reformat. I have no problem doing that normally (I usually do it monthly or so), but I just did it last week!


Joey

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About no IP address.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 10/8/06 12:53 PM In reply to: Re: Short List by voyager529

As to the picture, I saw an address so to claim no address you'll have to convince me.

Microsoft's lax interest means updates could trample this. All I can share is that we (at the office) don't offer any resolution to this one. We smile, nod, be nice as can be and then continue to offer the ethernet cards until the owner relents. You can flame over this if you wish but something is broken in this area and since MS doesn't seem interested (say the word Vista) in XP what are we to do other than move to what works?

Bob

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To Clarify...

by voyager529 - 10/8/06 2:49 PM In reply to: About no IP address. by R. Proffitt Moderator

Re: having an IP address, that's the weird part. The image is three separate screenshots stuck together. The one on the left is the status window when I double-click the status icon on the system tray. The center one is my properties window, showing the TCP/IP protocol is bound to the interface, and the one on the right is my TCP/IP configuration page.

I'd be running Vista right now if they had firewire networking built in...I guess I'm dusting off my router and grabbing a few ethernet cables...


Joey

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Still missing are those answers...

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 10/8/06 2:55 PM In reply to: To Clarify... by voyager529

I wrote about the route table (Hint ROUTE PRINT) and you could try the old IPCONFIG /A but this is only digging into the stack to see if something pops up for a clue.

MS as you can see in Vista is distancing themselves from this feature.

Bob

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