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by cheeming - 10/6/06 6:51 AM In reply to: Im looking for a good Hard Disc Camcorder. by roman9900the pioneer hard disk comcorder is still JVC.
YOU'RE NUT IF YOU DID N'T KNOW THAT.
SONY &Panasonic got to follow THE LEADER JVC on hard disk comcorders.
ps :
i am not work for JVC .
Just because JVC did it first
by boya84 - 10/6/06 9:33 AM In reply to: hard disk camcorder by cheemingDoes not make it best...
JVC did Hi-Def video first for consumer-grade camcorders - and they don't approach the quality that Sony (and now Canon) provide for.
That said, I'm sure the JVC hard drive camcorders are fine machines - but first to market is not necessarily a good reason to buy when there is good quality competition out there... and there are so many other relevent comparisons to make when deciding which machine to purchase...
Yeah, JVC is just the guinea pig....
by whizkid454 - 10/6/06 12:29 PM In reply to: Just because JVC did it first by boya84Sony has learned from JVCs mistakes and has improved on them. That DEFINITELY makes Sony a WAY MUCH BETTER CAMCORDER!!! JVC has horrible video (so I have heard). Sony improved on JVC's mishaps and has produced a quality HDD camcorder that is the BEST HDD CAMCORDER AVAILABLE!!!
JVC got high def by dumbing down the specs. Their
by Kiddpeat - 10/12/06 8:25 AM In reply to: Just because JVC did it first by boya84stuff is not full high definition. I haven't tried to research the question, but I don't think JVC got high def (to a limited degree) first. I think the Sony camera was first (Z1 as I recall). Perhaps, JVC had the first 'consumer' camera which, to me, means the low priced, point & shoot type.
Ditto for hard drives. Hard drives have been on Canons, for example, for a long time, but not on 'consumer' type cameras.
Sony AVCHD NOT SUPPOTED BY ANYONE-CAUTION
by Malibu310 - 10/12/06 7:00 AM In reply to: Im looking for a good Hard Disc Camcorder. by roman9900Even though Sony announced to the world that their AVCHD format is supported, none, not even Sony has plans to support it soon... that said other than having High Definition absoolutely useless at this time, I'm hapyy with the HDR-Sr1 camera that arrived last week, and hope SOMEONE may actually read in those high def files someday.
Too bad Sony has to ie to us all to get us interested before the product is useable.
Since AVCHD relates to miniDVD
by boya84 - 10/12/06 1:53 PM In reply to: Sony AVCHD NOT SUPPOTED BY ANYONE-CAUTION by Malibu310compression and perhaps BluRay players and this thread has focused on either hard drive or mini-DV based camcorders, I don't know how relevent your statement is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD
At the moment, I am quite happy with my Sony HDR-HC1 mini-DV based hi-def camcorder... and have no problems transferring or editing the 1080i content it captures. Nor do I have any particular interest in using my camera as the editing platform...
But thanks for the warning... I guess.
About that AVCHD...
by Malibu310 - 10/13/06 6:14 AM In reply to: Since AVCHD relates to miniDVD by boya84The file format is m2ts, not m2t as on your tape... currently there is no software that exists that can convert or deal with this format!!! In other words I cannot edit a file that does not actually exists anywhere but on my hard drive.
Another example:
Thjgt ywere befg wthre aftdy wiygvyuf !
This is a language I just made up, but I'm going to tell the world how to translate, and some large corporations commit to learning it, but those large corporations have no timeline or commitment of investment... how many do you think will learn my new language?
Malibu310, I just had an epiphany on AVCHD
by boya84 - 10/30/06 5:03 PM In reply to: About that AVCHD... by Malibu310When I found out that even Sony won't support the format in their own cameras in Sony Vegas 7 until Spring, 2007... But I did find "Tmpgenc Express 4.0" apparently can convert the AVCHD files to something sort of useful. What a pain.
http://www.sonyhdvinfo.com/showthread.php?p=45057#post45057
http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/te4xp.html
And of course, this assumes Windows users... Still looking for Mac support for AVCHD...
new format prob :(
by rolozo - 10/22/06 8:43 PM In reply to: Sony AVCHD NOT SUPPOTED BY ANYONE-CAUTION by Malibu310I just purchased the sr1 not knowing about the format problem. Have you found a software editing program that works?
looks like you need to buy new software
by boya84 - 10/22/06 9:14 PM In reply to: new format prob :( by rolozoAdvice please
by moleenadonkor - 10/23/06 2:18 AM In reply to: looks like you need to buy new software by boya84Hi all,
I need an advice regarding purchasing a camcorder. I have been following this discussion topic and I found it interesting knowing that there are people out there who are expert in this area apart from the sellers in the shop who main objective is to sell the expensive ones in their stores!!!
I want to purchase a camcorder, not very expensive, i can say for budget user. The main purpose for the camcorder is for travelling and also for functions. I want something that I can give me good picture, video and audio quality.
Please advice.
Thanks.
more questions...
by boya84 - 10/23/06 6:00 AM In reply to: Advice please by moleenadonkorWhat is your budget? (include camera, tripod, case, mic, extra battery... computer upgrade?)
Define "functions". Time of day, indoors/outdoors...
Will you be editing? On what sort of computer?
Does High Definition mean anything to you?
Will you use a tripod?
How important is "good audio"?
When you say "good picture" does that mean you want to take stills, too?
Have you done any research at all? Which models do you think are in your price range?
More details
by moleenadonkor - 10/24/06 12:50 AM In reply to: more questions... by boya84Thanks for your reply.
When I say budget, I mean I would love to have as much features as possible and good quality, with reasonable price. Yes, I would love to have mic, casing, tripod etc.
I will occasionally edit, depending on the shot taken and yes I am looking for a comcorder that will able me to take still pics. Night and day , indoors and outdoors required. Would be very happy if can get a high definition cam. Good audio is important but can be compromised. I have done lots of research, reading forums and reviews and also been to the shops, but the more I read the more confuse I get.
I found that sony has a lot of good reviews and considering to buy Sony DCR-SR100. But the price here is around £600. But if it is worth spending that much money, I wouldn't mind spending. I would love to get comparatively good camcorder at £300.
Thanks.
the DCR SR100
by boya84 - 10/24/06 6:16 AM In reply to: More details by moleenadonkorlooks like a fine camera. I'm just not a hard drive camera fan. There is a lot of compression going on that could impact image quality. As well, you need to be pretty disciplined about getting your footage off the camera so it does not get full and you are stuck wanting a shot and losing it because you either don't have space or took time to remove it - and missed the shot.
For another US$300-US$500 you could get 1080i HD in the Sony HCR-HC3 or Canon HV10 (or Sony HDR-SR1 or HDR-UX1). The SR100 does not have a mic-in, but it can use Sony-proprietary hot-shoe compatible external mics.
The Canon Elura100, Panasonic GS300 and Sony DCR HC96 are all miniDV based and while not brand new models will likely provide good service at less $. But, like I said, the SR100 is great - and it's appearance is cool, too. Too bad it is hard drive based.
whizkid454... you out there?
Recording time
by moleenadonkor - 10/24/06 8:27 AM In reply to: the DCR SR100 by boya84Hi boya84...
Thank you for your reply. Really appreciate your views. another question I want to ask is what is the maximum time I can record if I am to buy a DVD Camcorder? Is it 30 minutes?
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