Community weekly poll: How much storage space do you have for music files?
- 9/21/06 2:21 PM
Ah! What Memories, What Memories from Nineteen Hundred and .
by jschneids - 9/22/06 2:52 PM In reply to: Why I own music by PJWombleYesm I agree that having the music you love in your PC ready to re-live a happy or sad moment with music is all so very great. I listened to music a lot when I was young and had a lot of fun adventures and now I am getting up in age, but still love that music and can now Reminisce.
Little River Band - Reminiscing (1978)!
I have almost 600 GB in WAV files from my CD' collection. And then another 200 GB in MP3's (mostly 320KB). (Wow, big deal, wasted disks space, huh?)
Freddy Fender - Wasted Days And Wasted Nights (1975)
All my files are kept in alphabetical order by Artist - Title. All the alphabets are seperated by folders since I have so many files for each folder (Example: Folder A, Folder B, etc..) So I can easily find CCR, Stepenwolf, Dylan or Janis Joplin by going to the appropriate alphabetical folder. All file names are like typical : (This is in the Folder N)
Neil Sedaka - Breaking Up Is Hard To Do (1962)(Stereo)
Artist - Song Title (Year) (Stereo, SIMUlated or Mono)
Just so much useless information that makes me happy!
The Edwin Hawkins Singers - Oh Happy Day (1969)
Using the MusicMatch Jukebox (who was one of the first to start using the mp3 format) I can add other category data into each file (be it wav or mp3). I use MM because I found out many moons ago when the other software companies were trying to convince users that the airplane sound that their software creates on the music was the best way to go, just didn't cut it with me. The Castaways - Liar Liar (1965)
WAV files are more appropriate for that absolute best quality studio sound in a quiet room, but when you crank the volume up, it doesn't matter if it's WAV or MP3 (160KB or higher) you just won't notice.
Jackie Wilson - Whispers (Gettin' Louder) (1966)
Enuff said, I love music from Elvis to Sinatra, from Percy Faith to Enya and from Alvin & The Chipmunks to the Zombies. Now I must go and listen to my music for a few hours! Later!
Bill Haley & The Comets - See You Later Alligator (1956)
Ray Stevens - Turn Your Radio On (1974)
Teresa Brewer - Music Music Music (1950)
Now *that* takes me back!
by PJWomble - 9/22/06 3:47 PM In reply to: Ah! What Memories, What Memories from Nineteen Hundred and . by jschneidsAlvin and the Chipmunks!
"We're happy while we're rolling along
We're singing every goofy song
Who cares what the oerchestra costs?"
"I'LL Tell ya who cares, Alvin!!!!!"
Halcyon days, fersure!
Can't disagree with any of your musical highpoints there, especually "Oh Happy Day!". Might I just put in a mention for Curtis Mayfield's "Beautiful Brother of Mine" which I forgot in my earlier post?
600GB in WAV format? I really must get some more hard drive space! But then again, stuff like old punk tunes actually benefits from 128KB MP3 I think - reminds me of AM radio 
I can never get enough
by jschneids - 9/25/06 7:58 AM In reply to: Now *that* takes me back! by PJWombleFor all the moods and all the occassions, I just keep letting my collection grow.
Although I am sorry not to have mention my collection of the Motown sounds, country music, Big Band, Jazz, Rock and more, there is just so many to mention.
Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye, Little Stevie Wonder, Mary Wells, Martha & The Vandellas and the list goes on and on for just the Motown sounds alone.
I have taken all my original disks and put them onto 100 count spindles after coping them into my hard drives. This saves space and WEIGHT! All the original CD's & covers are scanned & then stacked into a small box, should I ever care to go through them again. All the original jewel cases have all been thrown out (those things get heavy & take too much space when you add them up).
You can't beat the high quality sound of the WAV's. but yes, I agree the 96, 128 & 160 MP3 settings can create a simular sound quality that of a 33 rpm vinyl record without the scrathes (with that limited frequency response), or even sounds simular to a high quality cassette tape (still hissy)(ah! memories). That's how we listened to those oldies originally and that is why they sound better to us with the bassy, tinny, not full frequency spectrum sound with out-of-phase equalization and distored high and low ranges. (grin)
Keep on truckin' people and shake, shake, shake, those booty's to the sounds that have given us fun, fun, fun and Lazy Day's to remember walking in the sand, riding the wild surf, or hearing it through the grapevine about the itsy bitsy teeny weenie yellow polka dot bikini that she wore for the first time today.
Sound quality generally
by PJWomble - 9/26/06 2:39 AM In reply to: I can never get enough by jschneidsI definitely agree with you that WAV files are much more true to the originally recorded material, but only insofar as the originals were digitally recorded themselves!
IMHO, the master tapes from most 1950s - 1970s recordings weren't of even barely comparable quality to what's available on the most basic CD Walkman these days, so there appears to be little point in discussing (as others have elsewhere in this thread) the loss of quality in encoding MP3s for this kind of music.
And, funniest of all, I love to hear hi-fi buffs discussing 'fidelity' when it comes to digitally-remastered music from way back when! Last time I looked in the dictionary, the idea of fidelity means "being true to the original" (or something quite like that ). I got a digitally-remastered Chuck Berry album (of which I used to have a vinyl copy many years ago). Sure, there's some lovely stereo separation and nice evenly reproduced vocals, crisp treble and pumping bass on there, but it doesn't sound anything like the original. It sounds like what a recording engineer in 2006 thought it *should* have sounded like when it was recorded!
And, as for cassettes, just don't get me started on what a bad day it was for 'fidelity' when they put the first player with Dolby NR on the market
Most of the stuff I listened to in the 1970s was not intended to be listened to in an armchair in an acoustically-perfect environment. It was intended to be listened to in your mate's bedroom on the AM waveband of a £20 stereo while pogoing, drinking cheap nasty lager, trying to snog some fluffy little punk girl and trying not to catch your bondage straps and safety pins in the lampshade!
Blimey, I've come over all nostalgic! I must go and have a nice middle-aged lie-down
I concur...
by BlazeEagle - 9/30/06 6:42 PM In reply to: Why I own music by PJWombleI start up upbeat music when I feel depressed, blue, ETC.
When I'm happy, I play upbeat & decent rock. I play many different styles of music, too many to list.
I even play music from the 50's & I'm only 27. I like the 50's music that is peppy & bouncy. I like the 50's kind that makes me wanna groove.
Agree with no time
by ezbesthost1 - 9/23/06 7:24 AM In reply to: NONE by teamdaveThe easiest thing for me to do is set up an online radio station and forget it. I have a web designing business and am working on a degree. So in my case I have little time left for anything(let alone HD space). That is just my alternative. If I spent a lot of time on the road the sattelite radio would make sense.
Storing Music?
by Benf - 10/3/06 11:24 PM In reply to: NONE by teamdaveThe songwriters and musicians stopped writing and playing music back in the early 70's, there are no artists any longer, only musicians and what can laughingly be called songwriters, I have none of that on my hard drives and the radio in my new truck is tuned to an AM 24/7 news station but you said it all when you said...to each his own.
Eh?
by PJWomble - 10/4/06 1:54 AM In reply to: Storing Music? by Benf>The songwriters and musicians stopped writing and playing music back in the early 70's
Er, no they didn't. Or did I miss a meeting?
Not MPAA, worry about IRS!
by PJWomble - 9/22/06 5:52 AM In reply to: How much storage space do you have for music files? by Marc Bennett
Has anybody worked out the average cost of a gigabyte's worth of legally-purchased music on a hard drive?
There's the cost of the download bandwidth, plus the cost of buying the downloads. And if the music was ripped from legally-purchased CDs, then that would originally have been even more expensive per track, wouldn't it?
Say, for instance, one had 270GB of music on an extarnal hard drive and 15GB of music on another internal drive.
And that each track is 5MB (reasonable quality MP3).
And it costs $1 to download a track (roughly).
... That's over $58,000 worth of music. No wonder people back their MP3 data up!
Do any of you guys tell your home insurance brokers that you have that much virtual property hanging around your hard drives? I bet it would send your premiums sky-high! And I'd guess that the IRS would be plenty interested to know how a few of us slackers with McJobs came to have sixty thousand dollars worth of music sitting round the house!
Seriously, though: has anyone managed to work out a more scientific, or informed, formula for the average cost of a GB of music?
re: Not MPAA, worry about IRS!
by someToast - 9/22/06 10:00 AM In reply to: Not MPAA, worry about IRS! by PJWomble"Do any of you guys tell your home insurance brokers that you have that much virtual property hanging around your hard drives?"
Not the virtual property, but you better believe that the 1,600 CDs those files were ripped from are covered in my policy!
Sensible backup policy
by PJWomble - 9/22/06 10:34 AM In reply to: re: Not MPAA, worry about IRS! by someToastWow, I'd make sure I didn't have *all* those CDs *and* the 'backup' soft versions on the same premises at the same time.
Best to ask a friend to look after the CDs at their house 'for safe keeping', eh 
As an extra precaution, you could set up 'torrent' files so that your backup data was easily available for you to recover remotely if the original CDs were lost.
That's why HM The Queen and HRH Princes Charles, William and Harry never travel in the same plane, you know: if there was an accident the whole line would be wiped out! This is somewhat analogous to the popular 'Grandfather, Father, Son' backup system don't you think?
Or perhaps you should send all your MP3 data to Google so that your 'backup copies' are safely stored on their servers in case of an emergency
Of course, you would have to make sure that you didn't access the files from anywhere else, as that would probably be a copyright violation.
Probably 5 to 10... So far nowhere near that though.
by pauljs75 - 9/26/06 1:50 PM In reply to: Not MPAA, worry about IRS! by PJWombleThere's still plenty of room on my 100 gig HDD, so maybe 5 to 10GB. But with the compression I use, I haven't reached 1GB yet. Audiophiles would probably hate some of it due to quality, but music's music when you need something to keep you going on the computer for hours...
I try to keep it mostly in .mp3 format since it's the most compatable with players available (software and physical devices.)
As for cost in downloading? How about for free? (And in a way that's legit too.) What's great is the variety of tunes you can find under Creative Commons Licence as direct independent releases from artists themselves. Most of which is free for personal (non-commercial) use and can be found in the audio treasure trove at archive.org. Of course the quality varies by huge amounts, and finding decent music takes some time... (Still worth the effort if you want music that's not mainstream.)
As for encoding music from CDs I purchased? The OpenSource winLame encoder (its at SourceForge) works nicely.
Check out Garageband.com
by bestsealer - 9/27/06 7:45 AM In reply to: Probably 5 to 10... So far nowhere near that though. by pauljs75Check out http://www.garageband.com for some really great free music!
Don't be fooled by the name.. some of these bands and artists are near professional - many have launched their careers here.
How much storage space for music files?
by gmomhpa - 9/22/06 6:17 AM In reply to: How much storage space do you have for music files? by Marc Bennett
None -- I am a musician: a vocalist and pianist. I object to having 'noise' around me every place I go. I have never listened to music while working on the computer. I would always be thinking the words or humming or singing along with it, not concentrating on tweaking a photo or composing an email or updating other data. I don't want ''background'' music anywhere because I find it distracting, even in church!
I occasionally listen to music on CDs in the car on longer drives, but I usually listen to a talk show while running errands. My husband finds even that too distracting while driving. I've been known to walk out of stores with blasting music that makes it impossible to think! I would like to eat a fast food or other restaurant meal in peace without noise. Cell phone conversations and loud so-called 'music' make me want to take the meal to my car and eat in quietude.
About 200GB
by RickBee - 9/22/06 7:23 AM In reply to: How much storage space do you have for music files? by Marc Bennett
Stored on an external HD and backed up to another external nightly - one section per night 6 nights a week.
I accumulated my collection by ripping my vinyl/Cassette/CD collection and downloading/purchasing from the internet. I still hit the used record shop for cheap vinyl and used CD's to keep the cost down. The concept of playlists has unlocked my massive collection to the point where I'm always (re)discovering music I didn't even know I had!
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