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Car Tech: Camry Hybrid vs. Camry V6 vs. Honda Hybrid

by vfelix - 9/6/06 8:20 PM
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Post 16 of 22

Service - dealer or others?

by albizzia - 9/23/06 2:20 PM In reply to: to tony by gwingee

For basic service (oil change, new oil and air filters, windshield fluid, brakes) you could go to any mechanic/lube shop.

However, Toyota usually includes free scheduled maintenance for the first 75,000 miles. That includes the basics and any other special maintenance reqpired. So, if it is free service at the dealer, why go anywhere else?

Post 17 of 22

Camry hybrid rebates and service (oil changes)

by jlandon - 9/24/06 10:19 AM In reply to: If you test drive it,you'll buy it........ by Tony Holmes

I've heard that there is around a $2,600 tax incentive for buying a hybrid before 9/30/06. Anybody know if this is true?

I've also heard that Toyota is offering free service (oil changes, etc.) for a certain amount of time. Anybody know about this?

If these are both true, I've got to get one quickly. I test drove one and loved it. It was very roomy, even in the back seat!

Post 18 of 22

Wife loves her hybrid

by baltesmx - 9/25/06 6:36 PM In reply to: If you test drive it,you'll buy it........ by Tony Holmes

We bought the Toyota Prius in Mar06. So far my wife has over 14K miles on it (she drives two kids + visits daughter in college). In city we average (honest) 45 - 52MPG. The highway is closer to 50MPG. The Prius is roomy, comfortable to drive, easy to get in and out of. We have the small 4cyl but it still has pretty good get-up and go. Keeping up with Indiana traffic is no problem (70mph is just a suggestion there). We drove both the Toyota and Honda and just felt the Toyota was a much better hybrid. Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.

Post 19 of 22

Hybrids improve both city and hiway MPG

by albizzia - 9/23/06 2:49 PM In reply to: Re: by Psych Doc

While hybrid improvements in stop & go city driving are impressive, hybrids also improve freeway cruising MPG as well. (Contrary to EPA ratings, my '03 Prius gets the best milage - 44 to 55 MPG - on long freeway drives.)

Other cars use an oversized gas engine to provide extra power for accelleration, but while cruising at constant speeds that engine is loafing, operating well below its most efficient speed.

A hybrid can use the electric motor for extra accelleration power, thus will have a smaller gas engine that runs near its most efficient speed while cruising - most of the hybrid gas engine run-time is near optimum efficiency.

Post 20 of 22

Prius is still number one!

by Gray K - 9/23/06 7:22 PM In reply to: Re: by Psych Doc

Generally, the bigger the gas engine, the better your 0-60 pick-up and the poorer your gas mileage. But then you can add the largest of the motor-generators with very little loss in fuel efficiency. 2005 Honda Civic hybrid had a small 10KW, the Prius, a 50KW. The Civic had a starter, a clutch, a transmission and the electric motor ran only when the gas engine did. All Toyota and Lexus hybrids use a small second, always engaged electric motor and a single planetary gear to replace these and any time your foot is not on the gas, that engine stops.
I'm driving a 2004 Prius, have 274 miles at 48.2 ave. MPG both city and highway on this tank and still almost half full. It's got a short turning radius, is very roomy, corners well and has great passing pick-up. It has the best cargo space to start with and I've removed the false trunk floor, re-carpeted it and it's like new with 20,000 miles on it...And would buy another in a heart beat. My wife has only 3k on her Mercury Grand Marques and prefers the Prius.

Post 21 of 22

camry hybrid has some issues

by bigoil - 9/25/06 8:55 AM In reply to: Prius is still number one! by Gray K

I agonized over the Camry hybrid, vs 4 cl., vs 6 cyl, vs Prius. After driving each for quite a while my summary is:
Camry V6 (like the Highlander Hybrid) is a real rocket, but I don't need all the horsepower.
Camry Hybrid is very nice with a good set of standard options, but has very limited trunk space and if you are trying to "granny" low speeds out of it, it can take a few crucial seconds for the gas engine to kick in.
Prius is not the same class in finish and size as Camry but would have been my favorite if you could find one with side/curtain air bags. It is a small car and its only marginally acceptable in side crashes without them. Unfortunately to get this option you normally have to get extra stuff you may not want in it. Still I like the Prius as the best overall pick. The 08 Prius is the one to wait for, rumors have that it will have a plug in recharge option and greater battery powered range.
Camry 4 is what we ended up with, though its smaller engine and gearing is better on the freeway (30 mpg+) than in the city (22-24 mpg) but its $thousands less than the hybrid, and at the low mileage we drive the Camry hybrid doesn't make sense
Camry 4 is okay

Post 22 of 22

Side Curtail Air Bags

by Gray K - 9/25/06 9:25 PM In reply to: camry hybrid has some issues by bigoil

My 2004 has options #7: rear window wiper, Side Curtail Air Bags, eletric Vehicle stability control, smart entry and start (keys and clicker remain in your pocket), electric ...

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