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Which of these two HDTVs performs better?
by husni.nm - 9/20/06 12:50 PMI'm trying to decide between the plasma Pioneer PDP-5070HD or the rear projection Sony KDS-60A2000. I don't need to have a flat panel display, so I'm looking solely at how these HDTVs perform (best picture, connections, etc.) CNET has the Pioneer at a rating of 8.4 and the Sony at 8.0, but is the Pioneer rated highter because it is a plasma? Thank you.
Which of these two HDTVs performs better?
by jcrobso - 9/20/06 1:43 PM In reply to: Which of these two HDTVs performs better? by husni.nmBoth are very good!!!!
It realy comes down to which looks better you.
Direct view( plasma) looks better to me all other things being =. Plasma has a wider angle of view.
The Pioneer is a 720p set and the Sony is a 1080p set.
Spend some time looking at the two. With Sony you will have to repalce the lamp from time to time cost $200~300 depending. Service contract is worth the cost in casses like this. John
Both are excellent
by Dan Filice - 9/20/06 1:48 PM In reply to: Which of these two HDTVs performs better? by husni.nmWhen I was at Best Buy last weekend, I looked very closley at the Pioneer Plasma and the Sony SXRD. Some pople say the Plasmas don't have motion blur. Maybe not, but one thing I did notice was the "screen door" effect just as bad as on LCDs. Both sets had excellent pictures, but both TVs still had pixel breakup during fast camera moves. It will be a sad day for sure when my old-school Toshiba RTPV dies, because it doesn't have any of this, but it is a tad softer. The Sony TV was warm but the plasmas were HOT! I'd bet that one wouldn't need a room heater if watching a plasma TV. The plasma was a much flatter display, whereas the Sony is projection so the cabinet is much deeper. Flip a coin.
burn-in
by bevillan - 9/20/06 2:17 PM In reply to: Both are excellent by Dan FiliceThe Sony will not experience any burn-in but the plasma will be very easy to burn-in if you are not careful, especially with video games that have some sort of stationary image.
From my experience, the 1080p Sony SXRD sets looks much better when viewing HD content than anything else and you will not get screen door, rainbow, or any other effect that some people experience. Whichever you get, get a protection plan of at least 3 years bc the bulbs for the SXRD are expensive to replace and we all know how fragile plasmas can be.
just 1 bulb?
by masterying01 - 9/20/06 6:49 PM In reply to: Service Plan by husni.nmthe bulb can be bought off sonystyle.com for 200-250. and if they only replace one bulb...that just doesnt sound right and i'd stay away.
make sure it covers wear and tear regardless of what parts are needed (ie light bulbs). find out what happens, IN WRITING, if they can't fix the tv or if you need a second light bulb to be replaced.
Yep, I bulb replacement
by husni.nm - 9/21/06 7:44 AM In reply to: just 1 bulb? by masterying01The $599 for 5 years includes just one bulb replacement, which does cost around $250 now, and they would obviously come to my house and install it. So basically I'd be paying $350 for anything else that may go wrong over the next 3 years, which includes labor costs for repairs, and for peace of mind. I've heard alot of mixed feelings about service plans, but in this case and with Tweeter's good reputation, I think I'm leaning toward purchasing it. Any thoughts?
Its simple the pioneer is just better.
by gabereyes - 9/20/06 8:20 PM In reply to: Which of these two HDTVs performs better? by husni.nmthe pioneer out performs the sony in color accuracy, gray scale, black level, contrast, and options and features.
last years SXRD had a better chance though, I would say pioneer all the way, burn in is a little problem not a deal breaker, burn in can be fixed just by watching TV, or a white wash test pattern.
I also own a Sony XBR960 and I have not had any problems with it, I just didnt have the money for a SXRD or a pioneer plasma, so I like both companys and both are the best in there class but pioneer is king.
I Have To Agree With Gabe
by RoadRunner6 - 9/21/06 2:08 AM In reply to: Its simple the pioneer is just better. by gabereyesThe Pioneer plasma is the better all around set. Burn-in is a thing of the past if you follow the precautions.
Also check the Sony for ''off angle viewing'' unless you will always be sitting in one sweet spot directly centered in front of the TV. If you move several feet to the left or right or up or down much, see if you notice a change in the Sony picture. I do and it bothers me.
RR6
user reviews
by bevillan - 9/21/06 7:13 AM In reply to: I Have To Agree With Gabe by RoadRunner6I have read more than a few user reviews of the A2000 series and when they mention viewing angle of the Sony they say you can see the picture just fine from extreme angles...I give you that probably not as clear as the Pioneer plasmas, but its not like you get a noticable drop in picture quality from an angle on the Sony.
Another thing is that the Sony is less expensive than the Pioneer for the same size. Alot of those benchmark tests that people have been quoting are for videophiles only. CNET says that the Sony has poor performance in reds and blues (If I recall) but then go on to say that it has an excellent picture and performance....do not pay attention to that "Geek Box" scoresheet because obviously CNET even admits, indirectly, that you can still have an excellent picture no matter what that stupid Geek Box scoring system tells you.
Plasmas are more fragile and burn-in is an issue given the amount of video game console owners I have heard that suffer from having images burnt in, even when just playing the game and not letting it sit idle.
You will be very happy with the Sony or Pioneer, but from my own viewing experience the Sony had a better HD picture.
The blues are phenomenal
by tanjmeister3 - 9/21/06 7:33 AM In reply to: user reviews by bevillanFrom my experience the A2000 has phenomenal blues...very very sharp. The reds...well I haven't paid close enough attention to red in comparison to other colours.
And for the comment about viewing angle...There is no noticable difference from my couch that sits off to an angle as compared to my one that sits straight on.
HD-DVDs/Blu-Ray on the Pioneer plasma?
by husni.nm - 9/21/06 7:47 AM In reply to: Its simple the pioneer is just better. by gabereyesThe Pioneer plasma won't be able to fully show the resolutions capable of HD-DVDs and Blu-ray, whereas the Sony will, correct?
Pioneer and HD DVDs
by Dan Filice - 9/21/06 8:25 AM In reply to: HD-DVDs/Blu-Ray on the Pioneer plasma? by husni.nmPanasonic makes 1080p Plasma sets that will display your native HD-DVD or BluRay just fine, but the 1080p Plasmas are not cheap. I think I remember the Sony 1080p price at BB last weekend to be around $2500 and the Pioneer Plasmas were $4500.
amen
by bevillan - 9/21/06 8:55 AM In reply to: Pioneer and HD DVDs by Dan FiliceSince the picture performance is about the same for both sets, the above reason is the best for getting the Sony over the Pioneer. Why pay an extra $1000-$2000 for 1080p in a plasma when you can get it in the Sony for so much cheaper.
A2000!!!
by tanjmeister3 - 9/20/06 10:19 PM In reply to: Which of these two HDTVs performs better? by husni.nmGo with the Sony. I absolutely love my KDS-50A2000 I just got last week. HD-TV looks soo sharp on it...I love it. Haven't read too much about the Pioneer, but from an owner of an A2000, I would strongly suggest it.
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