Games & gear: Xbox 360 adds 1080p support
Xbox 360 adds 1080p support
by bevillan - 9/20/06 9:18 AMHere is the article from slashdot:
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/20/1219227&from=rss
Looks like one of the big selling points of the PS3 just got matched. Now I know that 99% of 1080p TVs only have the native 1080p support through HDMI (which currently the 360 or HD-DVD add-on does not have), but most people are missing the point that you will only get native 1080p from the HD-DVD add-on if you have component inputs that support 1080p...which I have yet to see on any 1080p TV on the market.
But aside from that, MS has been rumored to release an HDMI cable (don't know what add-on they will need for that to create a port for it) so this news further adds credibility to that rumor.
Sony's prime advantage is about to be met.
Not Really
by lyard3518 - 9/20/06 12:46 PM In reply to: Xbox 360 adds 1080p support by bevillanFirst of all, although component video can output at 1080p an HDMI cable can output at a higher resolution than a component can. How much more and how significant that is is debatable, but there's no doubt that digital components like HDMi are the future.
Second, I don't see how Microsoft could release an HDMI cable for the 360. Without a port, I don't see how they can do so but it's possible they could add an HDMI port for an future 360 with an internal HD-DVD drive.
Finally, I still don't see how this add-on will sell. There isn't a lot of incentive for getting it. People don't buy a 360 to watch movies on it, they but it to play games. As long as 360 games don't come on HD-DVD disks, I doubt many people will buy it.
P.S. Although the $200 price tag for the add-on is a pretty good price, feature-wise the PS3 is still cheaper.
agree/disagree
by bevillan - 9/20/06 1:32 PM In reply to: Not Really by lyard3518I think the HD-DVD add-on is gonna sell pretty well (go over to the xbox official forums and you will see how some people are all excited). But for me I will not be getting it until they figure out how to hook up an HDMI cable to it since my Sony SXRD 1080p TV only has 1080p native support through the HDMI inputs.
I agree with you that watching movies on consoles is stupid and kind of white-trash. The last thing I want is to have to turn the volume up just to drown out my loud 360 while watching a DVD/HD-DVD. BUT if they can offer me native 1080p output I will buy it since I can rent HD-DVD movies from Netflix.
I think they could develop an add-on HDMI port that would plug into one of the USB ports...I don't know any other way to do it unless they plan on selling another version of the HD-DVD addon.
Any way you look at it though, it is a good step for MS and it will have an impact on people's decisions (especially if they can transform one of those USB ports into an HDMI port)
Disagree
by Soulwolf - 9/20/06 6:20 PM In reply to: Not Really by lyard3518HDMI only exist to force new and improved DRM on the consumer, it’s precisely the same as DVI. Other than output constraint tokens and other nastier manifestations of movie studio paranoia, it doesn’t need to exist.
There is no technical reason why HDTV cannot use 1080P signal from component. As for it being higher resolution;. Most if not all 1080P sets available today change 1080I signals to 1080P within its own hardware. There isn’t anything about the source that prevents the display from playing it in progressive scan mode.
1080p/60frps
by blklacker - 10/8/06 1:41 PM In reply to: Not Really by lyard35181. There has been serveral pictures and articles ie proof that suppports this in Japan already. PS3 has a hand full of titles 1080p/60frps amazing just amazing.
2. Not even the newest TVs such as the sony xbr3, the sharp D62 can produce 1080p with component cables. I still have yet to see a TV that can.
3. Anyone who pays $200 bucks to up convert their 360 to 1080p would be making a mistake and just wasting money. I mean even if I could just afford to take $200 dollars and wipe my butt with it and flush it down the toilet doesn't mean I would do it. lt's probally the worst thing you could do with $200 bucks. You cannot get a true 1080p/60frps with component cables. I don't even think it's technically possible, to get a 1080p/20/30rate with component cables and if there is a TV that can do it, hats off- that's one expenisive/amazing TV
waste of 200bucks
by blklacker - 9/29/06 9:50 PM In reply to: Xbox 360 adds 1080p support by bevillanMy big question is how could xbox360 have a port that supports HDMI?? Since it doesnt have a native port physically on it how could they ever get a HDMI to function on this?
it's component...
by typical_guy - 9/30/06 3:54 AM In reply to: waste of 200bucks by blklackerIt's done through component video. If you read the original post you'll see that it doesn't use HDMI. In fact, component video can carry 1080p but few televisions are set up to take 1080p in through component connections. My Bravia only does up to 1080i and it can take 1080i through component.
The hd-dvd add-on is going to come with "Kong". That's actually a good deal because HD-DVDs cose 25+ each.
waste
by blklacker - 10/7/06 8:37 PM In reply to: it's component... by typical_guyThats why its a waste, No Tv's will have 1080p via component cable. I dont even know if its possible to get a true 1080p with component on a technical level.
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