I have a Dell Dimension 8200 series, Pentium 4 Processor at 2.0 GHz,with 256MB RAM,80 GB hard drive, purchased in March 2002. It runs sluggishly, especially when moving between programs and running multiple programs. Also start up and shutting down is slow.
I have configued a new system with Dell with a cost of $838. It's a Dimension E510, Pentium D 930 at 3 GHz with 1 GB RAM and 160 GB hard drive.
I have now been looking at upgrading my current system to 1 GB RAM. At Dell the cost is $530. At a memory upgrade store, I can get it for $300- $340. Is it worth upgrading my 4 year old system? Also, is it possible to upgrade USB ports to 2.0, and is it worth it? I realize with the upgrade I'd have to update my bios.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
After 4 years it does not pay to upgrade. Give it to a beginner who can learn how to use a computer.
Your old computer is probably not worth upgrading. Certainly not if you buy the memory from Dell. One of the advantages of buying new is the warranty, you will be able to talk to Dell about problems instead of having to fix them yourself.
Also, a four-year old desktop is going to be old enough that you may start having problems with the hard drive, CD-ROM drive, etc. It is always nice to have a new system that is more up to date.
Don't worry about losing your files, you can take the old hard drive out of the old system and use it in an external case and still have access to your files.
If you are really looking for an improved system I recommend that you consider what the system will be used to do. Functionality is key.
If this is generally to be used for report writing, listening to music and surfing then an simple upgrade should do the trick, however if you are a gamer or use the system to rip and burn DVDs, watch movies and other high processor use activities, then go the whole hog with a new system.
If the latter is the real use for your system, consider going with an AMD processor (probs AMD64) and remember that upgrading your processor may mean a new Motherboard, and PSU. Plus you may want to look at a new Graphics card and new RAM modules.
Not sure re costs in the US (I am in the UK) but 2 * 1Gb modules are relatively cheap now.
General idea is to shop around and building it yourself will save you a fortune.
Hope this helps.
Geordie
Oh crap, I hadnt noticed that.
I would still go for a new system rather than try to upgrade a 4 year old one.
Before spending the money try these few upgrades/maintenance tips. Upgrade your memory to at least 512MB. If you are running ServicePack 2 consider 1GB. Next defrag your system. Run all your anti-malware apps (at least two scans of each kind of malware). If your hard drive is over 65% full add a new one and move all your music, pics, etc to the new drive.
Understand that a P4 2ghz chip isn't the fastest in the world but, given what info you provided, it should still serve you.
If these upgrades don't work for you you can always move the upgrades to a new computer. Just make sure the memory will work.
and life goes on...
Jack
RDRAM is expensive as hell, and it's no worth spending $300 on an obselete technology. Also, it's not worth spending $300 on a 4 year old system. I'd go with a new Dell.
Thanks for almost instantaneous replies to my questions. You all are great.
Thanks again!!
I have an 8200 too and the memory from Dell is way too high. I'm considering buying it off of eBay; there are a number of vendors selling used RDRAM, usually for less than $200 a gig. Make sure the seller has an excellent feedback rating and is located in the US. A number of people have been burned purchasing computers and components from overseas sellers.
CPUs aren't following Moore's law any more. Chances are good that the CPU in the $900 system won't even be twice as fast as the old system - maybe just 50% faster. So, I think the real question is : what are you going to do with the system ?? If you are going to run high-end graphics, you need a new motherboard and graphics cards (those ARE following moore's law, expect 4 speedup), and your DRAM is 2x the cost of today's RAM.
If you just want to do word processing, surf the net, and rip MP3's, listen to music, you have a fine machine, in fact, I use a 1999 laptop (400 Mhz Celeron) as a stereo system in my house, and to surf the net wirelessly ...
I would highly consider going dual core. It sounds to me from your initial post (slow when switching between functions) that you run multiple programs at once. Even though some Pentiums have Hyper Threading (and some even dual core) I would suggest waiting for another few months for the quad cores to come to market. They are SIGNIFICANTLY faster and do follow Moore's Law (processor POWER doubles roughly every 18 months (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law )
The quad cores are totally destroying even the best of the Core Duos and Core 2 Duo chips. Even though there aren't any programs written for it yet.. Tom's Hardware stated that they felt like they were using a computer from the future.
I understand you may not need a top of the line computer.. thats what I suggest what earlier people said.. clean out, defrag.. possible even restore your computer with the Windows Disk (AFTER backing up all your information of course).
But Toms Hardware said that you can burn a DVD, listen to music, surf the internet all at the same time without and delays with the new quad cores. It's like having 4 processors in your PC.
PS - If you do get another computer let me know where your located, maybe I could buy that one for household / server usage..
Recently I just put the gig of RDRAM <proprietary Rambus memory VERY EXPENSIVE>.. It was approx 250$ cdn(purchased online) At the moment im not gaming or putting the processor through to much pain.. This dell processor is upgradeable to 2.8 ghz(gonna upgrade soon) (i got 2.0ghz)...If upgrading your 8200 check your FSB speed as a higher FSB supports PC1066 RDRAM... For the 500-600 or so cdn u would put in to upgrade this pc, money wise you should probably get another pc.. But if you must upgrade than its no 2 bad but pricey... very pricey..
I think you are right on the money in upgrading your memory. If the system is sluggish it is not because your processor is too slow or your hard drive to small, it is because you have too little memory. So, I would not buy a whole new system, instead add 1 GB of RAM. HOWEVER, the prices you were quoted sound OUTRAGEOUS. I just recently bought a 1GB stick of DDR RAM for #39.95 on ebay, stuck it in and it sped up my system tremendously. That's all you need. Maybe defragment the system, too and get rid of memory hogging programs. But anyone who is trying to charge you hundreds of dollars to install the memory is ripping you off. If you can't do it, pay a high school kid $20 to stick it in the slot.
Rainer
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