Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Conspiracy theory

Political Issue

Very political issue you are talking about. A professor I have had was suspended from his post for his theories and not publishing them in scientific venues. There are are a few camps that the conspiracy theoriests fall into.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14723997/

Also a press release concerning a plan to use "false flag" operations to start WWIII in the 60's.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/9/prweb434292.htm

CNN Poll said something like 40% of Americans distrust...

I dont have the exact numbers, but i remember hearing the other day that a CNN poll found that a large percentage of Americans feel there is more than meets the eye with respect to 911. Maybe not as twisted as some conspiracy theorists would lead you to believe, but deceit nonetheless.

Sorta, and for me its lying about Iraq's conxn to AlQueda

In reply to: reply. by udayan71 

First, I think while the media is better at exposing things, I still believe that if the govt really thought that the knowledge of something would be a matter of natl security that there is no question in my mind that they would censor the media... for the greater good right?


at the same time, it seems that the current administration has totally been caught in its own lies, most glaringly as of late. I could not believe when dubya flipped on Iraq's connection to 911. He got the support he needed to take out iraq partly based on linking it to 911, and continued to maintain that connection and then all of a sudden when he is caught off-guard by the press he admits that there was none. This is utterly unacceptable if you ask me, but then again, I guess no one is :P

Do Some Research Before You Post

BYU Physics Professor Steven Jones has written that the WTC was not brought down by the planes or due to jet fuel burning.

Tech does not have to be about iPods and PS3's.

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What Really happened!

The second tower of the WTC that was hit fell first because the plane hit across a corner putting stress on that corner of the building and as everyone saw Flight 175 flew into the building in an oblique angle however the whole side was damaged so it was only natural that it would fall first not that the fire was mainly a cause of the building collapsing but the fire did cause the floor supports called ''Trusses'' to fail now trusses are a bar type steel beam that is very light has a zig zag bar going across one long bar this is now used in many buildings built in the 1970's these Trusses are very strong and very light and used in tall skyscrapers and high rises, but also fail in fire they sag pulling in the outer columns of the building putting further stress but NOT melting the steel but probably the aluminum cladding that decorated the tower's outside façade. And the jet fuel would have burned off in the first five minutes after the impacts later the building contents were mainly burning.
You should check out more about the collapse of the WTC. The first tower was hit higher up, the core of the building absorbed most of the fuselage causing the main explosion to go down the elevator shafts and the fire was mainly concentrated in the core where the building was very strong but but was amazing that it stood far longer than the other one. Also the towers were hollow steel Tubes and not very solid such as the walls were drywall and not concrete and the building was skinny at 208 ft x 208 ft in size (63 meters) and the effects of jet fuel were disastrous, forget conspiracy theories saying demolition bought down the buildings and the people you blame are the architects who knew the risks but went ahead with the construction. As the towers collapsed it was amazing that they collapsed from top to down, why didn't they collapse around the impact area? well since floor trusses aren't designed to stop the collapsing floors above them the collapse was more of a domino effect meaning once one floor begins falling this puts enormous pressure and weight on the floor below that then that floor begins crumbling then the it continues to smash each floor until the whole tower has fallen apart and the enormous dust cloud choked lower Manhattan, the collapse would be best described as ''Pancaking'' each floor squished everything in itself bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

Fast facts

*Buildings were completed in 1974 and fully working by 1975, construction began in 1967.
*A fire did occur in February 1975 in the North Tower on the 11th floor at around midnight of February 13 and burned several more floors, firefighters noted the intensity of the fire which burned for three hours. Now why didn't the building collapse? Maybe the building was still new? Maybe the fireproofing did it's job? Maybe there was no plane impact to damage the floor and cause the trusses to fail? or the maybe the fire happened lower down where the tower was very strong?
*Originally the first tower didn't have an antenna they added that in 1978.
*Architects did think about a plane hitting the building and the effects so they designed the towers were designed to be hit by a Boeing 707 but since planes are bigger now a Boeing 767 is much larger and heavier the towers withstood the impacts and the damage and the fire helped in collapsing the towers.
*Each tower had at least 25,000 people working or in the buildings per day.
*The towers foundation was to sludgy and watery since they were built very close to the Hudson river they had to use a ''Bathtub'' concept to filter out the water and stop the foundations from rusting or falling apart.

Links

http://www.911research.wtc7.net/ - It has facts but focuses too much on demolition theories, but still educational.
http://en.eikipedia.org/wiki/Wtc - Wikipedia entry of the WTC
P.S I am no professor but I have spent the last 4 years reading about the WTC and the collapse, I've heard lots of theories of demolition but I've seen dozens of documentaries but only very few of them actually explain what happens when you use Trusses as floor supports they sag and warp in fire and in the case of the WTC the trussed sagged and pulled the outer columns inwards you can see this in a Google Video video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5405555553528290546&q=south+tower%2C+wtc&hl=en