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Aaarrrgh, The Pirate Bay has been boarded, mateys.......
by Wilf_Brim - 5/31/06 7:40 AMNews article:
http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=1203
Via Digg:
http://digg.com/technology/ThePirateBay.org_Raided_-_Servers_Seized
Kind of a bummer, I guess that their "in your face" response to the legal threats may have finally caught up to them. If their claims really are true (that hosting a tracker is not illegal in Sweden) supposedly their servers will be returned.
One comment from Digg:
"I felt a great disturbance in the internet...like a millions torrents suddenly screamed out in terror, then were silenced."
Not just search, Buit seizure just iun case ??
by Redhats Q - 5/31/06 2:22 PM In reply to: Aaarrrgh, The Pirate Bay has been boarded, mateys....... by Wilf_Brim“…The police right now is taking all of our servers, to check if there is a crime there or not (they are actually not sure),” ThePirateBay.org spokesperson “brokep” told Slyck.com.
Man that sux. I'm not sure, but maybe your car has been used in a crime, so we'll just take it for a few weeks to see if we can find anything, and we'll give it back when we finish.
Or maybe your house? What about taking your kids just to check they haven't been taught anything that might one day make them raging psycopaths....
When will this insanity end?
Don't these clowns have due process.
"38) In future no official shall place a man on trial upon his own unsupported statement, without producing credible witnesses to the truth of it.
+ (39) No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgement of his equals or by the law of the land.
+ (40) To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice." .. Magna Carta 1215 - Modern translation
at
http://www.bl.uk/treasures/magnacarta/translation.html
And yes its the basis of much of Common Law in the UK, Canada, NZ, Australia and the US.
Just not Sweden obviously.
It was a show for the American Medias
by Archnsoul - 6/1/06 1:08 PM In reply to: Aaarrrgh, The Pirate Bay has been boarded, mateys....... by Wilf_BrimThere's more to this than a simple bust, it was a show for the American Medias.
The national Swedish media (SVT) reported that the Pirate Bay was closed down by pressure from the Whitehouse (which was pressured by MPAA). The Swedish police and prosecutor didn't not really have the law behind them and said so beforehand. The legality lies in that Pirate Bay does not host the material but rather allow finding of people with illegal material. The same way google can be used to find illegal files. Thus it’s not proven illegal by Swedish law.
Also the police didn’t only seize the Pirate Bay servers but rather every single server in the entire webhosting company (estimate 200 of them) where most belonging to private persons or small companies.
Maybe so..
by Wilf_Brim - 6/1/06 8:49 PM In reply to: It was a show for the American Medias by ArchnsoulLink to the story:
http://wiredfire.org/index.php?q=node/65
Right now these are allegations, but if true, this is quite disturbing. It implies that a portion of U.S. foreign policy is being dictated (basically) by the MPAA and RIAA.
One thing that TFA does have correct. The Pirate Bay is little more than a nusiance. The AAs can claim zillions of dollars in "lost revenue" but I doubt BT is having much of a significant effect on their bottom line.
Pressuring a foreign government to (basically) ignore their own laws in order to make a small industry happy is very worrisome.
Surprised?
by Dirty Pirate - 6/2/06 12:19 AM In reply to: Maybe so.. by Wilf_BrimI don't think anyone is surprised that the US will influence other nations policies ( this is NOT an anti-american rant ), The lobby group in the US seem to have more power then the President himself. This appears to be just another example in a long list and history.
But if you want to do business with the US, you have to expect that they will hav rules. I think the Swedish govt saw that and trade could be jepordised if they didn't make "some" overture.
Yaargh, the Pirates be havin' political support..
by Wilf_Brim - 6/2/06 4:38 PM In reply to: Aaarrrgh, The Pirate Bay has been boarded, mateys....... by Wilf_BrimFrom Ars Technica
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060602-6969.html
In addition to somebody(s) DDoSing the Swedish Police's website, there appears to be some mainstream political fallout in Sweden. From the article:
"We want to find out whether pressure from the U.S. government was behind the action," Center Party spokesman Johan Linander said. "I think all of this smells of direct political influence and we want to reach clarity about who really did what."
I'm guessing that the opposition in Sweden will paint this as the government giving in to the U.S., and use that to its politial advantage.
There is going to be a demonstration in Stockholm on Sunday, led by the Pirate Bureau and the Pirate Party. Pirates have their own political party in Sweden. Cool.
You like these guys
by harrietj - 8/25/06 8:02 AM In reply to: Aaarrrgh, The Pirate Bay has been boarded, mateys....... by Wilf_BrimLook people,
I hate the RIAA as much as anybody on this forum, but lets not kid ourselves, the pirate bay and places like that attract the low lives and degenerates of our society. Lets get one this straight …. Downloading copyright material without permission is wrong, and anybody who does it is a thief and common criminal. CASE CLOSED...
Correct: two wrongs do not make a right
by cardsbb9 - 8/25/06 10:24 AM In reply to: You like these guys by harrietjJust because the record industry and other intellectual property distributors are over-protective with 'root-kits' and other evil junk does NOT entitle people to find ways to circumvent them if you do so for the purpose of obtaining software or songs without paying for them.
Just because it is "intellectual property" and arrives in your possession by bits flipping on and off over your internet connection does NOT make it less real. It is still property.
Taking the property of others without the compensation they ask for is THEFT - plain and simple.
(NT) All yuo do is give them cause. In a nut shell
by Dirty Pirate - 8/25/06 2:29 PM In reply to: Correct: two wrongs do not make a right by cardsbb9Easy to convince yourselfe they you have 'cause' to do wrong
by cardsbb9 - 8/25/06 7:35 PM In reply to: (NT) All yuo do is give them cause. In a nut shell by Dirty Pirate....... but virtue and honor lies in your will to choose to do right in the face of those circumstances.
Pirate Bay's servers haven't been seized,
by Zunny_Blowsdogs - 8/26/06 12:26 PM In reply to: Aaarrrgh, The Pirate Bay has been boarded, mateys....... by Wilf_BrimJust think of it as that every file on them is being "shared" with the proper authorities. Forever.
It'd be awfully hypocritical for the Pirate Bay people to cry about their property being seized/stolen, considering that's exactly what they had done to the owners of the music & movie files they were sharing. Seizing & stealing the property of others. Just because they were digitally stealing it, doesn't make it right.
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