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Windows XP: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why??

by Trance_Zac - 8/8/06 12:54 PM
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Post 61 of 92

Defragment my computer

by spriestley - 8/11/06 3:20 PM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

Hi my name is Stephen,
i would defrage my computer only when i thing of it which might be 4 time a year. I do not know a lot about computers but i believe it help with the speed.

Post 62 of 92

Defrag or not to Defrag

by jazzy5 - 8/11/06 5:40 PM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

First let me point out that I use Diskeeper 9.0. It runs anytime the computer is idle. So pretty much if defrag every day.

Why do I use it or paid for this program? I have repair and service many computers. In the past, before spyware and virus, etc, people will call me asking me why their computer was slow. I will go and defrag their computer and it will run 50% faster. Of course this was before the 1.0 MHZ computer and large amount of memory and large hard drive. But this prove to me that is necesary. Now will fast CPU and large hard drive it is not very noticible, but still needed.

A hard drive is like a teenage room. All kind of stuff is throw everywhere and when is needed it takes a few minutes to find what they are looking for. Some people are neat and can find everything when needed. Some have to turn the house upside down to find the cars keys. Windows is like a teenage. Everything is pull from the hard drive to the memory when you request an action, but it never puts it back to the same place when you are done. So the next time you recall that file it will take an extra second to find it. Keep doing this without defrag and it will take longer and longer to get that file. I could explain with detail how this works and happen but it will take a long replay to explain it. But thrust me, defrag really, really help. But then some people does not like neat, they like chaos and it works for them.

Post 63 of 92

Defragging

by angeles75 - 8/11/06 6:15 PM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

At least once a day. I convert VHS tapes to DVD's. Need a fast computer and no problems.

Post 64 of 92

(NT) Any advantage using safe mode?

by Fish - 8/11/06 6:39 PM In reply to: Defragging by angeles75

Post 65 of 92

One of my three XP

by William Randall - 8/12/06 10:49 AM In reply to: (NT) Any advantage using safe mode? by Fish

computers will ONLY defrag in Safe Mode.

Post 66 of 92

Not true...

by geeki-t - 11/9/06 12:07 AM In reply to: One of my three XP by William Randall

PCs can be defragmented in Safe or Normal Mode. Some say Safe Mode better compacts files, but it's much slower and involves running a command (Start>>Run>>msconfig), selecting Safe Boot from Boot files, shutting down and restarting, and Safe Mode boots up slower than Normal Mode, plus you have to repeat the command/shutdown/restart into Normal Mode to finish. You need plenty of patience and some skill to accomplish all this, and for all but the pickiest people, it's not worth the troulbe.

Post 67 of 92

Almost daily, and sereral times a day at that!

by bestsealer - 8/11/06 7:51 PM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

I am running Diskkeeper, which defrags in the background when I am not doing anyting. As a result, it usually defrags about 1 to 3 times a day.

This is an interesting question, as my Toshiba M30 notebook was sort of slowing down, and I started looking for trouble spots. I initially ran XP's own defragger, which after analyzing the drive, reported it was severaly fragmented. So, I ran it and it defragged the drive. But I saw little improvement.

Then I got Diskkeeper, which also said my drive was severely fragmented, even though I had just run XP's defragger! So, I ran it and it then reported it had no more significant fragmentation. But, I still did not see a big improvement in performance. But, nonetheless, I set Diskkeeper to continually run in the background keeping the drive defragged.

Then I went looking for performance tips, and found "23 Ways To Speed WinXP Without Defrag" which had the opening statement: "To defrag, or not to defrag? If you're looking for ways to speed WinXP machines used by your customers, then the answer is Not." Read more at: http://www.techbuilder.org/recipes/59201471;jsessionid=F3HY0F30XRGDQQSNDLPSKHSCJUNN2JVN. The article is quite good, in that is does give some very good advice on how to speed up XP with various techniques - well worth the read. And btw.. implementing those tips, DID indeed improve my system performance!

However, being of the old school, I continue to let Diskeeper run automatically in the background keeping my HD defragged. It just 'feels like the right thing to do', despite the comments in the article.

Post 68 of 92

Oh, I forgot to mention...

by bestsealer - 8/11/06 8:55 PM In reply to: Almost daily, and sereral times a day at that! by bestsealer

I also run Steven Gould's free CleanUp program at least once a week. You would be surprised at how many Gigibytes this handly little program can recover over time (it keeps a running total of bytes saved).

ref: http://www.stevengould.org/software/cleanup/

Yeah, I know it has nothing to do with the poll, but if you are going to defrag, you might as well clean up your HD first!

Post 69 of 92

Almost Daily, and several times at that

by wijo7117 - 8/12/06 9:09 AM In reply to: Almost daily, and sereral times a day at that! by bestsealer

Thanks for the TechBuilder article. I printed copies to give to friends who come to use my computer, because their computers don't work anymore. The article had some great tips. I run Diskeeper also, I find it helps alot. Thanks wijo7117

Post 70 of 92

how often to defrag in windows xp?

by ishaque99 - 8/11/06 8:29 PM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

hi, normally if it is not done often it doesn't effect the operation of ur system.
but if defrag every atleast a fortnight/month then the disk space is utilised in a proper way,hence increase in disk space usage and better system speed.

Post 71 of 92

defrag

by oltmrkr - 8/12/06 5:37 AM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

I have gotten to where I will defrag at least once a
month(depends on how many downloads). This is because I have had to try to recover files from hard drives that have crashed with no backup. Defraging hard hard drives makes it easier to find and pull files from drives that have gone down. I believe this works better for me.

Post 72 of 92

As needed

by glb613 - 8/12/06 8:22 AM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

If I make a DVD, especially if creating one from a tape, I'll perform a defrag because the program puts the video in a temp file during the process. Once it's done, it leaves a very large fragmented area if you believe the defrag analysis. If I uninstall a large program, like a game, I will also do a defrag.

I've done what I call tune-ups on people's computers. It includes cleaning out malware, temp files, TIF, removing programs from the startup group, doing a error checking/scan disk and defrag. After doing the defrag, I have noticed a slight improvement in performance if the computer is older with a slower processor or doesn't have adequate memory.

Post 73 of 92

How often do you defrag and Why?

by wijo7117 - 8/12/06 8:48 AM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

I use a great program called diskeeper. I have it set to defrag continuously. I never have to worry about when to defrag as the program does it as needed. As to Why? My computer runs fast, and space is used efficiently. Without defraging, I would have had to throw this 4 year old Dell away. I also wash my free space about once a week with another nice program called window washer. I have friends that don't defrag and their computers don't work at all. They come over to use my computer. I strongly recomend that you defrag!!! Wijo7117

Post 74 of 92

Defrag

by eSchmeltzer - 8/12/06 10:29 AM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

I have all my clients defrag at least once a week. One HAS to empty all Temp and Temp Internet files, and the TEMP in WINNT or Windows. Don't trust Disk cleanup, do it manually, then run anti virus and then any spyware programs that you have. After that empty the recycle bin and defrag....the system will be running clean and fast.

The very nature of Windows is to fragment files, it is designed that way. After a while the system gets slow and you feel, if lacking in skills, that you need a new computer. Bill gets more money, and his hardware cronies make out as well. Think about it. Consumers are all forced into new operating systems all the time, the new products don't have the old stuff in them anymore and eventually they stop supporting it. I could go on and on about the practices of Microsoft, but in response to the article here, yes you have to defrag and to think otherwise only makes Billy boy richer.

Post 75 of 92

I defrag, but the frequency depends on the partition.

by Dawnshadow - 8/12/06 2:10 PM In reply to: POLL - How Often Do You Defragment and Why?? by Trance_Zac

I do defrag; when all my stuff was on one partitio (and later, when just my personal documents were on a different partition,) I did it once or twice a month. Now that my hard drive split up into six seperate partitions I have a new game plan.

I don't touch two partitions. One's a Linux swap partition, the other is a pre-installed system recovery partition.

One of the four partitons I do use has an install of Linux. As far as I can tell, Linux ext3 partitions simply don't fragment, and so far I've failed to find any Linux-based defragmenter at all (though I'm sure it exists,) so I'm assuming (unless I hear otherwise) that it's one fewer drive I'll have to deal with.

As for the other three, one is formatted with NTFS and has Windows and Windows programs on it. That, I defragment about as often as I used to-- once a month, or whenever I install a large program.

The other two are formatted in FAT32 (so both operating systems can read and write to them safely; Linux still has issues with writing to NTFS and Windows can't "see" ext-formatted partitions at all) and, hence, prone to heavier fragmentation. I use one for music and video files, and the other for personal data, such as homework.

The media partition gets defragged after I add a lot of new stuff or whenever I think of it, and usually I'll defrag my (smallish) data partition as an afterthought while doing a drive that needs it. When I had the same material on a small partition before, it never fragmented much due to the fact that a lot of it is archival and they're generally small files.

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