Community weekly poll: Who do you think should have control over Internet content?
- 7/18/06 12:16 PM
Who do you think should have control over Internet content?
by Marc Bennett - 7/18/06 12:16 PM
Who do you think should have control over Internet content and why?
Service providers
Content providers
I don't care
Whoever the author grants rights to...
by John.Wilkinson - 7/18/06 4:30 PM
In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
The author of the software, website design, articles, etc is the one who should, and does, have control over the content unless he/she grants rights to another individual, such is the case when you develop a site for another person/group, create a Wikipedia article, etc.
John
It's a BAD question
by doon41 - 7/19/06 8:42 AM In reply to: Whoever the author grants rights to... by John.Wilkinson
The other choice is ''no one''. In general, no one should control the content of the internet, and no organization really can (even in China). John has it right that on a per-item basis, the authors/creators (or their assignees) already have control, legally. No overarching control beyond that is needed, nor really possible.
the "bad question"
by sfbrown0802 - 7/19/06 10:27 AM In reply to: It's a BAD question by doon41I concur, it is a bad question. Since we all pay for the internet in one way or the other, we the market will determine what is profitable and what is not. Content creators should have control of their creations, not the pipe owners or mega content accumulators/re-sellers.
In a certain way...
by BlazeEagle - 7/19/06 7:08 PM In reply to: the "bad question" by sfbrown0802It's like charging an extra fee to travel on a road one already pays to travel on!
The net is akin to a road, it's a roadway for products, services, opinions, ETC. to travel on. A common pedestrian should not have to pay an additional fee to access the 'net!
The 'net is a change in the way our society has functioned for hundreds of years. Greedy companies, industries, ETC. are unwilling to change with the times and adapt.
The net needs to stay an OPEN and FREE resource for all of humanity to use and enjoy! Yes, we pay an internet access fee, but that's for upkeep NOT useage for discrimination!
Worse than BAD, it will skew results
by russ666 - 7/22/06 11:07 AM In reply to: It's a BAD question by doon41Worse than BAD this limited question format will skew results since it doesn't include any of the other possible entities who ought to have some say in the control issue. Say for example you want to have a grass roots issue brought to the attention of other like minded folk. Before, with net neutrality, you COULD afford to do it, possibly. Now since it is going to be cost prohibitive for many or most, Not so much !
And so we end up (once again) back to the "tyranny of the majority" (majority stockholders that is). Who DOES own the www and the airwaves ? would be a better, more inclusive question.
Our elected representatives, elected (we used to believe) by us are, these days, largely in the pockets of "special interests" is this not a fact?. To paraphrase, by their works shall ye know them. Do their votes represent what YOU are wanting ?
G H
The thing is that...
by BlazeEagle - 7/22/06 6:08 PM In reply to: Worse than BAD, it will skew results by russ666Based on America's laws, the majority rules[supposedly]. Like it or not. You can't make everyone happy. BTW, I'm not refuting your message, I'm just adding a point to the overall discussion.
On the other, since its the WORLD WIDE WEB, no one country should have control over it. At the same time, the WWW needs to stick to Americas freedom of speech rights, no matter an individuals countries laws.
Agreed
by spook_et - 8/31/06 8:24 AM In reply to: It's a BAD question by doon41This question is just poorly worded. But it will lead to a skewed result.
It's the reason I didn't vote.
It's like a game we played as kids. Ask a no win question and see how the other person struggles to answer it. Silly.
I'm pulling up my pants and going home... I don't have to play this game ;0).
Content providers
by wsmontgomery - 7/19/06 12:19 AM In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
Content providers both provide the content and are responsible for what they provide. If there is a problem then go there and leave the service providers out of it.
This is a tricky question!
by ShrekkieBMA - 7/19/06 1:59 AM In reply to: Content providers by wsmontgomeryI agree that the content providers provide the content and as such should have control over the content they provide. But some content is provocative, abusive or even right down criminal.
To avoid this it could be considered to give the control over the content to the service providers. But this would give the control over the content in the hands of a limited lucky few.
I think the best solution is to divide the control: the service providers can prevent criminal, abusive and provocative content and for the rest leave it up to the content providers. This is again a very difficult situation, because there is discussion possible about what is criminal, abusive and provocative content.
Maybe there's a need for an organisation such as the United Nations with representatives from both the content providers and the service providers to set the rules.
How would the controllers be controlled?
by Argie-Salvador - 7/19/06 5:34 AM In reply to: This is a tricky question! by ShrekkieBMA1984: Big Brother watches you!
2002: The Matrix
The question of controlling people's activities is a hard nut to crack. Politicians, religious leaders, all have a say with regard to individual liberties and rights. Apparently the ultimate control on the Internet will come from the most powerful, just as the Romans did with the Alps passages and before them the Gauls. We can write and talk and scream but someone, somehow will one day ''control'' the Internet and we will all have to yield or disappear. Sad? Pessimistic? No. History repeats itself over and over. The human folly has no limits. These are my thoughts that I define as ''optimistic not leaving experience behind''.
Let's go for a pint and leave control to controllers of all that can be controlled until the day comes when controllers are themselves controlled. By whom? Oh, by another controller. Sheet! Please pass the mug....
Controllers do control
by uglo - 7/20/06 11:18 AM In reply to: How would the controllers be controlled? by Argie-SalvadorYou are absolutely right! Who controls the controllers? It is clear that the ones with the "money" control! That is the way it has always been. Money talks loud "can you hear me now?" We slaves will just be left to see what is left when the smoke clears. Oh, to be one of the rich few who can control something.
The power of richness
by Argie-Salvador - 7/21/06 4:32 AM In reply to: Controllers do control by ugloThoughts upon the power of Wealth
Upon commuting to the City as I always do,
Riding this Japanese-made motorbus, reading a poem book
And eavesdropping at the same time others' talks
Over the humming engine, subjects of all sorts
Discussed along the trip by these assorted folks,
I overheard today one saying something about
The power of money and its whereabouts,
And rediscovered suddenly something that I've always knew:
Of how rich people get a host of things for free
Offered by all those who for some hidden reason think
That money could be contagious, at times, if
One stays around and sound for long enough;
And all along these years I have seen
A huge number of men, delicate, fair or rough and tough
And how wealthy people were given voluntarily
Food, beverages, paintings, air-tickets, an endless list
Of goods and services some hardly won by these good men
To add up to the richness of the rich
Who, for another hidden reason, always expected them...
© 2005-2006 Salvador aka Argie
Thoughts on rich folks...
by BlazeEagle - 7/21/06 6:41 PM In reply to: The power of richness by Argie-SalvadorThere are decent, wholesome wealthy people out there. I've heard stories about wealthy folks, who, behind the scenes[to avoid the spotlight I assume], help disadvantaged people.
On the other hand, it seems like some act like royalty just because they're wealthy. I don't understand why people treat them as such. Many act like wealthy folks deserve some type of special treatment.
Being wealthy can bring out the best or the worst of people. I won't refuse money, but all I want is to be cured of duchenne muscular dystrophy and be able to hug my family. THAT is MY form of true wealth! To avoid sounding selfish, I wish and hope for all forms of muscular dystrophy to be cured as soon as possible.
Ill pray that you get better
by djujecmaoseoionnn - 7/21/06 7:54 PM In reply to: Thoughts on rich folks... by BlazeEagleI was in a car accident and broke my neck and lower back and have now been unemployed for 3 years. I can still do things but not without lots of pain. I live on Dulaudid and Fentynyl patches 24 7. I am going to pray to God that you get better. Let em try to censor that. Good luck in your future and may God bless you with recovery.
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