Community weekly poll: Who do you think should have control over Internet content?
- 7/18/06 12:16 PM
Lets spam not ruin the Internet
by varun8 - 7/19/06 2:20 AM In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
Ecven though I am a real supporter of free speech and would ideally see the content providers have full control over the content that goes out there, I have to be realistic.
I think the Internet is being ruined to some extend by the vast amounts of spam and unwanted advertising content out there. I typically receive between 300 and 400 spam emails per day, because I have had my main email address since 1996 which were registered as webmaster.
Also many Internet searches lead to plain advertising that often has absolutely nothing to do with your target. Editorial content on the net also does not seem to be nearly as independent as that in print (not saying that that is always independent). I seem to notice that Dell computers always receive glowing reviews on web sites where they advertise heavily. recently I came accross a Dell Notebook which was given a runner up position as an ULTRAPORTABLE even though its weight was 8.8lbs, more than double than any other in the review of 7.
So if we can't rely on content providers, we should be able to rely more on the service providers, because we are their customers, not the content providers.
Maybe Change Your System
by mike.searles - 7/19/06 2:46 AM In reply to: Lets spam not ruin the Internet by varun8Can you get some kind of spam blocker to eliminate what you receive and what gets posted? Either that or change your e-mail addy. That's probably easier than dealing with the number of things you're getting every day.
I agree that you cannot always trust what you see on a web site. But that is the same with TV and newspapers, etc. Don't believe everything you read.
Also, if you're looking for a fair review of anything, go to sites that are more accurate and want to provide the best information regardless of any advertising, bribes, etc. Go to sites you know and trust. For example, I'd certainly go to amazon if I wanted to buy a CD, rather than to "Uncle Bob's Cheap CD Collections" ... my apologies to all of the Bobs.
If you are looking at buying an expensive item, you must check out numerous web sites and reviews for that item. Then, you should get a fair assessment, or at least, a more accurate one. You can even check out publications, like magazines, for more information. Many reliable sites have forums where you can ask about an item and get some valuable and knowledgeable feedback.
Good luck,
amelia
re:Lets spam not ruin the Internet
by Eldor Luedtke - 7/19/06 6:30 AM In reply to: Lets spam not ruin the Internet by varun8Well, you want them go even farther with the control now? You want them to decide who you can and can not get email from? Sad truth is, that would not keeep out the spam, much of the spam is sent by personal computers, the owner having no clue, why do you think it is so hard to stop? The adds, well, much addware is installed along with "free" software, DEEP in the EULA is a blurb saying you agree to it, do you really read the thing? I have had my email since when ever it was that Charter picked it up after running @home out with crazy fees, and I may get 3 or 4 spams a day (and use the term spam loosely, likely I did not see the send me info thing some where), but, I am careful what I sign up for using that one, MOST the time. I use a throw away email for stuff I think will generate spam. My email in 98 was, not so good, but I used my real email in usenet, the bots got me, spam came.
Doesn't really matter....
by FallonTerry - 7/19/06 2:27 AM In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
Free Enterprise really does work, when left alone without everyone trying to meddle.
If some service providers play favorites with their own products, others will not, and people bothered by that can go there.
Internet Content
by Bobby312 - 7/19/06 2:40 AM In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
This issue should remain open as opposed to being controlled at all, but I doubt that the Internet would benefit from service providers' control. They would just do that to their own gain.
If I plant a garden, I choose who eats
by gthurman - 7/19/06 2:59 AM In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
It's the service providers that created the pathway. Neutrality applies to equal access. Unfortunately, people like spammers demand more than their share for profit with little or no investment. With something like more than half the world wide traffic being unwanted media, we will be forced to create private nets. To protct the net, a little more legislation would go a long way. I already block entire countries just to prevent spam. If all traffic from a country like Nigeria was blocked, the country would take action.
Discrimination? Racism?
by Argie-Salvador - 7/19/06 6:05 AM In reply to: If I plant a garden, I choose who eats by gthurmanYour reasons, on the first part of your message, are sensible. Then you end it all up with a threatening commentary:
Are all inhabitants of a country to be treated the same way just because a handful of spammers, thieves or porn dealers (probably not even being of the same race nor living in that country) are taking the lead in bit-space? Doesn't this happen in all human activities all the world round? Why it is then that certain countries invade certain others "looking for arms of massive destruction", but not certain others who definitively build them under their very eyes?
Your naming of a particular country sounds nasty and out of place. But, to-date, all is accepted on the Internet. Should I have misinterpreted you - which I might - do please accept my apologies but bear in mind that one day, any day, some might come to your orchard and eat whatever you chose to plant there, without asking for your permission.
Racism has no place here
by andysacks - 7/19/06 3:10 PM In reply to: Discrimination? Racism? by Argie-SalvadorPlease keep your offensive and racial remarks out of this discussion. If the poster had said Ireland instead of Nigeria you would have said nothing. Who is the true racist.
Certainly not
by Argie-Salvador - 7/20/06 6:40 AM In reply to: Racism has no place here by andysacksDear EdMiller: Your impromptu reply reveals that your intimate feelings regarding the country you mentioned consider that there IS a difference. I never suggested anything like that. Btw, why don't you fill your profile in and stop being anonymous?
It's already determined...........
by 9mmammo - 7/19/06 3:24 AM In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
First of all, NO REGULATION BY GOVERNMENT!. Since when has the government done anything FOR the people?
Who will have control? BIG BUSINESS, of course! The people with the best looby group wins. That's how it works, I know it sucks because you can replace the US Flag with a dollar sign or whatever logo the top corporate dog is at the time. I predict that big pockets will get it.
Is there any way we can save this so we can look at it after the fallout???????????
Net Neutrality - phrase conjured by the minions of darkness!
by dgbvan - 7/19/06 3:52 AM In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
The naissance of the Internet was specifically so that people (specifically Scientists) could have free and unfettered access to information. The idea was that if scientists could talk to each other, wherever they might be, research, hence knowledge, would be disseminated more quickly and would be unfiltered.
Those who champion "Net Neutrality" have chosen to utterly turn their back on this share and share alike principle. Shame on them!
Their pathetic argument is that those who post the most content AND HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR PRIVILEGED ACCESS, deserve to benefit at the expense of the people who do not have the money to pay for enhanced access.
The Telcos and Cable providers claim that, since they have financed the backbone of the Internet, they deserve to benefit financially.
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That is like saying that Bell, Telus, Sprint, AOL, Verizon and others in the distribution sphere should charge more to clients who use the telephone more that those who use the telephone less. In other words, they say that home subscribers (of any financial ability) should subsidize the big, rich corporations and multinationals.
If Net Neutrality comes to pass, The World Wide Web, as we know it today, will be the exclusive territory of the major global corporations. If you thought you got a lot of spam now ... just wait! WWW traffic will decline precipitously and the non institutional Internet will die.
Sure, the Telcos may ram Net Neutrality through an incredibly inept Congress in the US, but I doubt that ANY other nation will follow suit. Once again, the US is poised to bite itself in the foot.
As to the Internet (which is NOT the WWW) will be sidelined and forced to run it's own network.
Net Neutrality is the absolute worst idea to be floated about the Web since its inception. It deserves to be buried. Pronto!
CONTENT PROVIDERS MUST HAVE SOLE CONTROL OVER INTERNET CONTENT! MUST! MUST!! MUST!!!
sole control
by djujecmaoseoionnn - 7/21/06 8:43 PM In reply to: Net Neutrality - phrase conjured by the minions of darkness! by dgbvanyes, sole control and be held accountable for it.\
Without the content providers, we wouldn't need broadband
by GreggN - 7/19/06 3:52 AM In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
The multimedia content providers have motivated people to buy broadband. Now that the service providers are experiencing slower customer growth, they want to increase the fees for companies and services that attracted the consumers.
Who should dictate...
by sen - 7/19/06 4:10 AM In reply to: Who do you think should have control over Internet content? by Marc Bennett
Who should decide what is served on your dinner table? You as the cook, or the supermarket check-out clerk? And if there is too much salt in the food, what should be done? The cook should be told to be careful, or should the supermarket stop selling salt? The argument is as simple as that...
the cook
by djujecmaoseoionnn - 7/21/06 8:46 PM In reply to: Who should dictate... by senThe cook should also have th right to shoot the damn clerk if the clerk comes into the cooks home without permission and tries to force a different diet on him.
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