Buzz Out Loud Lounge: BOL problems on Sony PSP
- 5/15/06 4:25 PM
psp rss problems
by mikew710 - 6/22/06 2:01 AM In reply to: Sorry by x1800yolki have the sam problem with it seems like all the podcasts. Of course i just got my PSP about a month ago and haven't yet learned much on saving the podcasts and such. I have suicide girls and a few others ign and sonys... i have listened to them from my PSP not my PC so i must have dont them right.... However i have not been able to get Cnets BOL to download without getting a 404 or a out of memory error... also several other RSS feeds that i once got i can't recieve anymore... i think it was the firmware....i have 2.71 and get 404 errors to sites that I know are there using a psp like emmulator on my PC i was still not able to get the RSS feed to work but i have them on my yahoo 360...i am able to get the on my PSP from the Yahoo 360 web browser page . I find that really sterange but whatever works
Only CNET. :( Perhaps it's a resume-download thing?
by colinlowe - 6/24/06 9:43 AM In reply to: psp rss problems by mikew710Sigh. Tried again through RSS Channel, and although all the latest shows were listed, it still said "The server does not support this feature." when I opened the menu (triangle) and selected Save.
Googling for the error message showed a thread on another CNET forum ... http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24058233
I'll be visiting Sony Canada soon to troubleshoot a problem with my memory stick and the PSP. I could ask the technicians if they've any ideas what this could be... Personally, I think it's that the type of streaming the PSP does is unsupported - I believe it tries to send out a bunch of requests as resumed downloads, so it specifies that it wants, say, 256 KB of the file, from 1024 to 1280. Not all servers support that feature, though most do.
Same problem
by mattadata - 6/28/06 8:45 PM In reply to: Only CNET. :( Perhaps it's a resume-download thing? by colinloweI can't stream or save any of the newer shows on PSP firware 2.71.
Still working on it
by acedtect - 6/29/06 2:56 PM
In reply to: BOL problems on Sony PSP by acedtect
Believe it or not the engineers still haven't tracked fdown the issue with the new server and PSP but they're still at it. I'll bug them again today.
Sony's Issue
by Leo Watson - 6/29/06 9:24 PM In reply to: Still working on it by acedtect
I reckon this is a problem Sony needs to fix, and I read somewhere that they are doing just that. It should be done by version 2.80 if memory serves me correctly, which it usually does.
Engineers have a question
by acedtect - 6/29/06 3:35 PM
In reply to: BOL problems on Sony PSP by acedtect
Quote:
We found that we can hit the files directly with no problem. What we're at a guessing game about right now is how people have their personal PSPs set up to stream files. Is there client software, RSS readers, or some other setup they are using?
Some help
by x1800yolk - 6/29/06 4:18 PM In reply to: Engineers have a question by acedtect
I'm not sure if I can correctly answer that question. When I updated the psp, the feature was just there, so it's integrated into the firmware. I did, however, find a really helpful link about the PSP's rss features and specifications:
http://www.playstation.com/manual/psp/rss/en/spec.html
I'm guessing that you've seen this, but I may be wrong. Thanks for all the hard work, Brian Westwood
Well...
by RodderRodder - 7/1/06 12:15 AM In reply to: Engineers have a question by acedtect
I started messing with feeds on my PSP like others when the first firmware came out(2.60). Which I believe was baked into the firmware and not a separate client. It was working then. Supposedly, 2.70 refined it. Now, while I would not be surprised at firmware breaking something, I don't believe that's it yet. And I wouldn't want to say it the new server even though stuff from the same feed that is coming from the old server is still accessible. Also, I've noticed that i've been getting 504 errors when trying to get to bol.cnet.com and podcast.cnet.com when on my PSP when you run it through google's mobile web optimizer (I think the link is still my first post on this thread). Not sure what caused that. Still trying though. I used to be able to save or play podcasts doing that. By the way, thanks Tom and the engineers for looking into this. I just wanted reiterate that.
Point them at my comments :p
by colinlowe - 7/2/06 7:25 PM In reply to: Engineers have a question by acedtect
Sigh. I accidentally hit the green button instead of the yellow one. So check this new, accidental thread instead:
http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-10152-0.html?forumID=97&threadID=188346&messageID=2043978
Me too, but not with a psp
by Sir_Edward - 7/3/06 5:44 PM In reply to: BOL problems on Sony PSP by acedtect
Don't want to confuse this thread but thought it might help to mention that I'm experiencing similar problems with the feed, thought I'm not using a PSP.
I'm using HappyFish (0.9.9 rev 1209) on an XP VM machine running on Ubuntu 6.06 (nothing like keeping it simple!). HappyFish has had no problems with the feed before, but I cannot get the feed to list files after 15/6 Netscape gets diggy, though the files before that list and download fine.
<wild_stab_in_the_dark>
Could it be that the psp and HappyFish are struggling to parse the changed url ?
</wild_stab_in_the_dark>
I can download them manually from the web page though.
Cheers
BhB.
Possible ...
by colinlowe - 7/4/06 9:06 AM In reply to: Me too, but not with a psp by Sir_Edward<wild_stab_in_the_dark>
Could it be that the psp and HappyFish are struggling to parse the changed url ?
</wild_stab_in_the_dark>
That's possible, except I've been having trouble with the PSP since before then - since early May. The major change then was the switch to the podcast-files.cnet.com server. For a couple days before that, podcast files saved fine. And a couple days after the switch, before the CNET News.com podcast was also put on the new server, the News.com podcast worked fine too.
Indeed, though, the webpage problems are caused by the PSP's dumb URL handling.
Feed problems
by Sir_Edward - 7/5/06 12:06 PM In reply to: Possible ... by colinloweI posted my problem on the HappyFish forum, and the author had a quick scan of the code and saw nothing amazingly out of the ordinary. He confirmed that it cannot list past the 15th, but says the next version due out shortly seemed to be OK with the feed.
I have noticed one problem with the feed but don't know if it's significant.
Below are the enclosure strings from the xml for the 15th and 16th.
<another_wild_stab_in_the_dark>
On the 16th the lenght attribute is a human readable time. For all other feeds the length attribute is a numeric value. Could this malformed length attribute be causing a parsing error perhaps due to a lack of sanitizing, causing the feed to fail for dates after that?
</another_wild_stab_in_the_dark>
<enclosure url=''http://dw.com.com/redir/file.mp3?destURL=http://podcast-files.cnet.com/podcast/cnetbuzz_061606.mp3&ctype=podCast&cval=BuzzOutLoud;061606'' length=''00:32:57'' type=''audio/mpeg'' />
<enclosure url=''http://dw.com.com/redir/file.mp3?destURL=http://podcast-files.cnet.com/podcast/cnetbuzz_061506.mp3&ctype=podCast&cval=BuzzOutLoud;061506'' length=''12679168'' type=''audio/mpeg'' />
Hope you enjoyed your hols.
Cheers
BhB
Recap & question
by RodderRodder - 7/10/06 8:08 PM In reply to: BOL problems on Sony PSP by acedtect
Alright, so what do we have now? When the issue first surfaced, it was after the new server came online. It was thought that there was a problem in the way that the PSP IDs itself on the CNET page. You can check you user agent on your PSP here:
http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/browser_id.shtml
That wasn't it. Also, we know that the shows that are still coming off of the old server still work fine. Someone mentioned mirroring and it was done. The idea was then kicked around that it either could be the server or the firmware on the PSP. It was said that it might not be the Firmware. Personally, I agree. Then it was mention of a keep alive problem while getting the file on your PSP. Had anyone had any problems with that?
I made a suggestion to use a web page optimizer to make the site more mobile friendly(check my first post). It worked at first, but within the last 3 weeks or so, it didn't. Now, it is working again, so thanks to whomever for fixing that. You can save the files using that, but you can't stream them like you would normally be able to on the PSP. however, there are less files in the archive to try now.
Then the keep alive situation was seemingly fixed but I
don't recall that being an issue for me. Didn't seem to work for others. Someone mentioned that the PSP's RSS support was broken. If that were true, you wouldn't be able to get anyone's podcast, much less CNET's. My belief, anyway. The 2.71 Firmware came out and people still said there was an issue. I am still using 2.70. I've only had a similiar issue to the one standing before us with one other podcast. There (The Portable Gaming Revolutions' PSP podcast ironically enough), the person's feed host, Libsyn, pulled the plug on streaming so you have to download the shows to listen to them. Someone in this forum (Louis from T-dot) mentioned an idea of the issue may really be. After all most, if not, all of us are getting the message, "The server does not support this feature".
There was also a fix involving a squid? Now that's comedy. There was also mention that the problem is the type of streaming that the PSP is trying to get. I guess that is a sound theory, but what else kind of streaming is there that is web compliant and used on the PSP? I am curious about that whole thing myself. How standard compliant is the PSP browser anyway? That is a question for Sony though.
Finally, the engineer's had a PSP configuration question. Well, I think we all know that the PSP has no real configuration in that respect. be nice if it did. xyolk1800 pointed to the PSP manual which actually was cool to see (and partially answers a question of mine above). So, after recapping all of this and noticing some terrible mistakes in my posts, I guess the question goes back to this: Does the server support streaming? If so, is it "turned on"? Is there a specific way that it is handling it or could it something on the PSP after all? The only other thing i can think of is that there is something in the feed itself, but that seems unlikely given the kinds of stuff we are seeing. I did try to run it through a validator,
http://feedvalidator.org/
but I don't know enough about RSS to say anything of it anyway. So that was stupid.
Anyway, thanks again to the engineers and Tom for all of your efforts. They are appreciated greatly. I know this was long and pointless, but I was feeling a bit Holmesian.
Rodney L.
Feed fixed?
by Sir_Edward - 7/11/06 4:56 PM In reply to: Recap & question by RodderRodderDon't know if it's working for you PSPers now, but the enclosure length issue (value in time not filesize bytes) that I pointed out a few days ago has been fixed when I've now looked at the feed.
BhB
It's fixed!
by x1800yolk - 7/27/06 3:56 PM In reply to: BOL problems on Sony PSP by acedtect
If you listened to Thursday's podcast, you will find that the podcast works for psp! It will only work if you update to version 2.8, which can be done from the psp menu. Happy listening, Brian W.
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