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by jpnat50 - 7/6/06 7:36 AM
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serials and cracks

by jpnat50 - 7/6/06 7:36 AM

do the serial codes and cracks really work , i never tried it coz one of my frend told me that those types of sites contains viruses, worms, trojans and all kind of stuffs that can make ur computer in doom. is it real that those sites are spreaded with viruses, if so why r they doin so. if those are carrying so much viruses and stuffs do they cant be banned by anyone?

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Post 2 of 27

Dangerous and *illegal*...

by John.Wilkinson Moderator - 7/6/06 8:15 AM In reply to: serials and cracks by jpnat50

The shraring of product keys, serials, cracks, warez, etc is piracy and therefore illegal according to the laws in just above every modernized country. Depending on how much you pirate the penalty could range from a very hefty fine (tens of thosands of dollars) to a prison term. For that reason alone I'd stay away, oping instead to by the small cost of the software from a legal source.

Aside from that, your friend is right...most of those sites and downloads are loaded with malware, and to top it off the cracks can frequently cause seurity issues with the software.

The reason the sites are still around is that most of them are fly-by-night...the authorities track them down, so they shut down, move elsewhere, and start again. They also hide in countries where the laws are not as stract, buying them more time before they have to cut bait and run.

The same goes for downloading copyrighted software and music using torrents and P2P software...downloading copyrighted content is illegal and you run a high risk of a massive infection in the process.

In short, STAY AWAY.
John

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Massive Infection

by Bugbatter - 7/6/06 12:04 PM In reply to: Dangerous and *illegal*... by John.Wilkinson Moderator

...''massive infection'' is right! I'm in the process of cleaning a system that was full of cracks. It took seventeen (17!) posts for the user to post his one ewido report online in a forum thread. The machine was so infested that would barely run.

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Post 4 of 27

I've never had a problem

by fnash - 7/7/06 3:25 AM In reply to: Massive Infection by Bugbatter

I'm one of those people that won't buy it unless I can kick the tires around for a while, see how it works, and compare it side by side with something similar or that has the same function. That way, I get what I know best suits my needs. As such, I've downloaded litterally tons and tons of cracked or hacked software so that I can find out if it really is any good, or if it's all advertising or hype. I've found some really big surprises that way, where something I would have never expected to be any good was the best of the group, or something that was mainstream sold in stores really sucked. To date, as long as I've had proper AV software installed, pop-up blocker active, etc, I haven't had one single problem with misbehaved software or anything getting installed on my system that I don't want on it. Zero, none, nada. I do 2 things that help ensure that is always the case. 1 - I use a good AV and keep it updated. 2 - I don't use Internet Explorer. Actually, I don't any more but I have used it a lot as well. I found Opera 9 and loved it and haven't gone back, and it's helped prevent a lot of potential troubles. I've installed it on a couple of PCs for friends who just keep getting mal-ware from web sites and pop ups, and it's really helped reduce that to almost nothing.

Anyway, I agree with the rest of the postings that you should not download software or other items illegally. I wholeheartedly urge people to download things to test. Just don't test it permanently. Once you determine if it's what you want, get the real thing.

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No problems

by josephgreene - 7/7/06 3:56 AM In reply to: I've never had a problem by fnash

I agree as long as you have anti-spy and anti-malware and do a scan on the material downloaded to see if you want to buy, it has been fine for me, I have had to delete (shift delete, so as not to put the baddies into the recycle bin) files which were indicated to include trojans, etc but provided you check before you open, I have had no problems

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Post 6 of 27

Cracks are an invitation to trash your computer.

by Jonathan8606 - 7/7/06 3:59 AM In reply to: I've never had a problem by fnash

Unless you want to format and reload all your software, stay as far away from cracks and free music download sites as you possibly can.

The previous poster said that as long as you have your AV up you should be o.k., well, what about the viruses for which the AV hasn't had a new definition written for it yet? Like I said, just stay the heck away from it.

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Post 7 of 27

Yes, but only if you're dumb

by irishsassilassi - 7/7/06 6:28 AM In reply to: Cracks are an invitation to trash your computer. by Jonathan8606

In such sites you can only get viruses, worms or trojans if:

1. You use IE6 <- a ton of such sites use IE vulnerabilities and immediately install things on your pc.

2. Don't have a good Anti-virus program <- typically good (some of the free anti-virus programs are good) anti-virus programs can detect files that enter your pc. If your's is outdated then sure, you'll have viruses and worms, so update it!

3. Stupid (for a lack of a better term) <- some sites immediately show you a window asking you if you want to save a file, even though you haven't clicked anything. Typically saving or opening those files in that scenario is inviting spyware, adware, viruses or worms into your pc.



Though i'd never recommend going to such sites in the first place. It is illegal. And I do deny that i have gone to such sites and got any file from such site.

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serials and cracks?

by valpap - 7/7/06 4:42 AM In reply to: I've never had a problem by fnash

Is it possible to tell which are the least dangerous or/and the best sites to find serials and cracks??
I would like to be able to try and compare programs before buying.
Thanx a lot

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Post 9 of 27

NO...

by John.Wilkinson Moderator - 7/7/06 7:10 AM In reply to: serials and cracks? by valpap

Such sites and their downloads are illegal, period. We do not condone piracy, even if it's only 'short-term piracy,' and any postings as to where to obtain illegal downloads, serials, etc will be deleted on sight.

John

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Post 10 of 27

it works?

by jpnat50 - 7/7/06 7:30 AM In reply to: I've never had a problem by fnash

if it does not caused any problems to u then does the serials and cracks really work for a software, if so which site will u recomened.

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Post 11 of 27

THAT CANNOT BE DISCUSSED HERE!!

by Brianstech - 7/7/06 7:42 AM In reply to: it works? by jpnat50

As John said, it is illegal talk, and won't be tolerated here, or ANY decent public forum.

I'm not a moderator, nor do I work here. But this thread is at risk of being shut down with these requests for warez sites.

I even went into a "grey area", but recommend everyone to try to keep it somewhat clean.

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Post 12 of 27

aim

by jpnat50 - 7/7/06 7:24 AM In reply to: Dangerous and *illegal*... by John.Wilkinson Moderator

i know now those sites contain tons and tons of viruses and malwares but what is their aim by sending u a virus or trojans .... do they hav any gain???

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Potentially...

by John.Wilkinson Moderator - 7/7/06 9:04 AM In reply to: aim by jpnat50

* If it's adware, they likely receive revenue every time you click on a pop-up ad as part of a referral service.

* If it's spyware, it could record credit card numbers and forward the information to the author.

* If it's a browser hijack, it could trick you into thinking you're at your bank's website when you're actually on theirs...you just transferred the entire balance of your account to them.

* If it's a trojan they likely receive back-door access into your PC. They can now browse your files, control your computer remotely, etc. If they control it remotely they can turn it into a zombie, which they sell rights to to other hackers in order to carry out massive Denial of Service attacks on popular websites.

* If it's a virus, it's usually just for the fun of it. Some, however, can encrypt your files with a password and then demand money for the password so you can get your data back...the latest type of internet extortion.

So in short, it's usually for money, but sometimes it's just for kicks.

John

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Post 14 of 27

Here is a couple of hints.....

by vbp1 - 7/7/06 6:19 AM In reply to: serials and cracks by jpnat50

First of all I am totaly aggree with all the posters here that it is wrong to use this sites, how ever
if you want to realy test the software before you buy it you need a full working copy not the cripled demo version that appears to be doing what you need untill you try to do something serios on it and it's craps out on you.

SO....
AV and other utilities are good but not perfect
and there are other things you can do nowdays to prevent being infested.

my current strategy is to use virtual pc programs.
you can load the VMWare server for free now and create a test VM that you can use to access any sites worry free. create and setup the VM like you want . then make a copy of it and store it in a safe place. then just use the copy to go to the sites you need worry free. download the files and even try to install it and scan the files untill you are sure there is no spy or other wares in it. you can even use it to check the applications in it. then onece you are done, delete this copy and make a fresh one..

Maybe not very simple but very safe...

good luck

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Guest Account

by mail_to_sashi - 7/7/06 7:17 AM In reply to: Here is a couple of hints..... by vbp1

You can use the guest account as a testing ground for the crack/keygen you download.

Run the key-gen in the guest account, store the keys onto a text file and come back to the admin account to use it.

In case of any infection, it cannot harm your system as guest account does not have any priveleges. You can just delete the guest account and all the files to get rid of the virus/trojan file.

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