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Building a PC
by Punxthps - 6/29/06 6:18 PMOk so recently Ive been reading on sites and building a PC doesnt LOOK all that hard to do. So I went around newegg picking out stuff I planned on buying. I was going to post my list, as suggested in another thread of mine, to see if there were any suggestions or improvments I could make. Please keep in mind I am a bit on a budget and the only way I am paying for these things is on my $6.50/hr job where I only work a maximum of 30 hours a week. So money is sort of an obstacle here, but heres what I picked out? I don't think I have to say this from reading around the forums, everyone seems nice/sophisticated/mature, but helpful suggestions/comments only?
Case
Motherboard
Processor
RAM
Graphics Card
Harddrive
Replacement PSU(newegg reviews of case didnt sound like people liked the PSU included
Here are just some things that dont directly affect performance, I tried to go a little cheap due to saving money, things like CD Rom, Burner etc
DVD/CD Rom
DVD/CD Burner
My question about those two things. Can the second one, the combo drive, just read like a regular CD Rom? Becasue the title of it says CD rom, so I dont want to be spending 20 extra dollars on a seperate DVD/CD Rom drive if this can perform the same function.
Also, The case reviews say it is very cool, and most people sound like they are not running with water cooling, and its still cool. So it does not sound like I would need to buy one, but if reccamended, or later found out I was running too hot I think I would go in the direction of:
Water Cooling
More things unrelated to performance
Mouse(already purchased
Keyboard
Speakers
Monitor
Gaming Headset
I plan to run Windows XP on this, and do things like playing Counter Strike 1.6, Using photoshop, Using Cinema 4d, Sony Vegas 6.0 for Video editing, surfing the net, using aim, watching anime. I was wondering if this was a decent budget setup and could get done what I am looking for. My biggest concerns are Counter Strike and video editing.
If you have a problem following this, sorry I tried to make it as clear as I could. If any links are broken, notify, I have everything saved in my bookmarks.
Building a PC
by cmatheny - 6/29/06 7:42 PM In reply to: Building a PC by PunxthpsI would use a newer CPU an Athlon FX instead of the old Athlon 64.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562
and I only use Western Digital hard drives.
You only need a DVD-burner and I would choose a Lite-On.
No water-cooling.
I don't think that you need a replacement PSU with this computer.
the beginning...................
by logger99 - 6/30/06 3:04 PM In reply to: Building a PC by PunxthpsFirst, what's your total budget amount for this system? And, is that counting "full retail" or "after" rebates?......... this is the way to approach the build........state the amount of money available, what the primary uses of the system are and the rough draft system you have in mind..................then lets get our heads together and work wonders........................
Budget and stuff
by Punxthps - 6/30/06 3:42 PM In reply to: the beginning................... by logger99My maximum would probably be around 1700-2000.
As stated in my frist post the uses of the computer will be:
Counter Strike 1.6
Adobe Photoshop
Sony Vegas 6.0
Internet
Chatting
So it has to be capable of running counter strike with a high fps. I was looking for like 100 fps with settings max or as close to, only fps droppage in some smokes. Like I'm not looking for 100 fps constant in alot of smokes but like minimal droppage possible. And yeah, so mainly, gaming, photoshop, and video editing.
My understanding
by marinetbryant - 7/1/06 8:33 AM In reply to: Budget and stuff by Punxthpsfrom reading posts on CPUs is gamers like AMD and video editors like Intel. For your budget you should be able to build one heck of a machine!
Tom
Well
by Punxthps - 7/1/06 10:52 AM In reply to: My understanding by marinetbryantFor the record, I'd be doing much more gaming then actual video editing.
Video Card
by Punxthps - 7/2/06 10:16 PM In reply to: Well by PunxthpsWell I jus t found out the video card was deactivated on newegg, so now I have to find something else. I really wnated that one too because of who suggested it to me, he knows alot and have seen it perform and seemed like a good buy.
After looking around on newegg, I have come across 2 cards I would think about purchasing. One has no reviews and the other only has 1. So by the looks of the specs and stuff which one would you recamend, or if neither could you point me in the direction of another that you woudl?
Here are the 2 cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814195019
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814195016
Do you think the extra money would be worth it to go for the second card? Is there a different card you would suggest buying withint the same price range(around 200-300) that would perform better? Thoughts please.
Case
by engelasche - 7/12/06 12:29 AM In reply to: Budget and stuff by PunxthpsIf you like to save a bit more money then try and look for a cheaper case. It doesn't help the overall performance of the computer?
YOU CAN BUILD TWO
by Scrotes4Life - 7/3/06 1:00 PM In reply to: Building a PC by PunxthpsNEWEGG - NEWEGG - NEWEGG.............. do those folks give these forums some kind of kick-back?
Go to Tiger Direct. You can get an excellent P4 HT - Motherboard bundle for $500. You can get an excellent graphix card for $100. You can get 2 Gigs of HP Memory for under $200. If you want, you can get killer cases (with 500 w power supplies) for under $100. You can get all the residuals for under $200.
If you're living lean (and obviously you are) then you need that other grand to survive.
You can exactly what you are looking for for $1000. and be happy. When you need "How To" stuff: CNET is right here.
Carry on and good luck.
Hm another
by Punxthps - 7/3/06 7:09 PM In reply to: YOU CAN BUILD TWO by Scrotes4Lifehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150140
My friend talks highly of this. Yes/no? Any better than the 2 posted above this in my other post.
Building on a bugdet???
by nathanpsz2 - 7/5/06 4:15 AM In reply to: Building a PC by PunxthpsYou've picked a $300 CPU and $200 RAM; that's not what I'd call budget. If you're going to spend that much on a CPU, get the socket AM2 Athlon X2 3800+. If you don't want to spend that much, get the single-core Athlon 64 3500+ for socket AM2.
Socket AM2 uses DDR2 RAM; DDR2 667 and 800 will work fine.
For the video card, I recommend the nVidia 7600GT, which is an amazing card for $135.
I'd get a different PSU; one made by a good brand like Antec. The TruePowerII TPII550 watt is a good PSU for about $80.
Athlon 64s run cool, so you don't need water cooling.
Half Right
by tobee - 7/5/06 8:40 AM In reply to: Building on a bugdet??? by nathanpsz2I build computers for a living and have done pretty much everything out there. But I am willing to learn more and more. Nathan thinks you should go with a dual core and I agree. But to give you a another choice, wait until Intel's new Core Dual 2 dual core(Conroe)comes out in a week. It has been announced again for July 14,2006.All test and eary reviews suggest better performance and lower cost,though AMD is also cutting prices. Then you can decide which dual core you want to go with and with that budget, you will get a better machine than a budget computer.
MY APOLOGIES
by Scrotes4Life - 7/5/06 9:40 PM In reply to: Building a PC by PunxthpsI went to Tiger Direct to order a Video Card - the same afternoon that I told you to go there to look at P4 - 6
series motherboard bundles - only to discover that they were no longer available. HMMMMMMMMMM....... don't know why. One day earlier, I had looked at one foe myself.
Obviously a hot item - they know it - so they make more off of those doing everything seperate.
They do have some excellent prices on 8s and 9s - still worth looking into.
Some of these guys make cracks about building on a budget........ Look, I'm poor. I know all about cost-effective. BUT ......... I can build $1000. rigs that will run circles around some of these $3000. pieces of junk. I do it. There are $100. Graphix cards out there that can perform just as well as some of these $400. cards.
Don't rush - read reviews - you can find answers all over the internet.
Good luck - carry on!
Gaming on a budget
by WhyFi - 7/6/06 3:34 AM In reply to: MY APOLOGIES by Scrotes4Life''There are $100. Graphix cards out there that can perform just as well as some of these $400. cards.''
I'm always interested in saving a little dough - link(s) to benchmarks, please!
Umm no...
by Calgaryruss - 7/7/06 9:28 AM In reply to: Gaming on a budget by WhyFiThere is no $100 video card that will outperform a $400 video card. Never was and never will be. What did you do? Run MS Paint and it seemed faster on the cheaper card? Run EverQuest 2 or Call of Duty 2 and then see...DDR3, 512-bit, pipelines, etc...the higher end cards are priced more expensive for a reason...
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